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Sgt._Joker 04-20-2005 01:39 AM

ooo theres a prob with that example of "Twist and Shout", John Lennon had a sore throat at the time, so thats why his voice was so scrachy,

BUT the way i sing scrachy is, after listewning to john lennon and Liam Gallagher from Oasis, i juust imitate them, and after a while the scratchyness comes in,.... although i think my way is **** techniqe course sometimes i get a sore throat.

About that!^

How do i sing my "Rock N Roll" style (John Lennon/Liam Gallagher) technically correct.....

Rats 04-20-2005 08:34 PM

Yeah, I think many times in oldies when the singer had a naturally raspy voice, he was having vocal problems at the time. When my voice was fu[b][i][/b][/i]cked up it was really easy to sing like that.

Mr.MIKe 04-22-2005 09:01 PM

The singer in our band needs serious help... This thread may have what he need. Thanks guys

ragingrob 04-22-2005 10:34 PM

ok so for all you vocalists out there, me and some guys from mx have decided to play some songs together over the net, recording over each others playing until we finish the song, and we are looking for a singer!anyone willing to give it a go?also i am personaly looking for someone who can sing like the beatles or JET....

earlypunkguitarist 04-23-2005 07:11 AM

im sure somethings very wrong with this every time i sing i have trouble hitting certain notes that are right in the middle of my vocal range. like i can hit the notes above and below it but i cant hit it. its really starting to worry me

Merkaba 04-23-2005 12:27 PM

[QUOTE=earlypunkguitarist]im sure somethings very wrong with this every time i sing i have trouble hitting certain notes that are right in the middle of my vocal range. like i can hit the notes above and below it but i cant hit it. its really starting to worry me[/QUOTE]
Is this the middle of your scale including falsetto...the girly notes? If so you might be talking about notes in your bridge from head to falseto. Incorrect technique will make you squeeze your throat in this area. You should practice glisse's up and down...relaxed blank face style. As in my voichelp hotline's isolation thread. [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]

barclay 04-23-2005 05:50 PM

When I sing it sounds like I'm holding back. That can be from my lack of confidence but is there any other way I can get rid of that and sing full force? Every time I try to sing "stronger" I just sing louder and it sounds bad.

sk8t1228 04-23-2005 06:19 PM

I have a horrible voice. I mean bad. If I were to take singing lessons(Which wouldn't be for a while, because I'm still a bad guitar player :), could I train my voice and at least be tolerable?

Edit: Okay, not THAT bad, it's not good, but...

Peanutman514 04-28-2005 06:47 PM

I have been using the mic from my guitar tuner to see if my vocal notes are in tune? Is this very accurate?

lloydapalooza 04-28-2005 09:34 PM

[QUOTE=Peanutman514]I have been using the mic from my guitar tuner to see if my vocal notes are in tune? Is this very accurate?[/QUOTE]

i'm thinking that actually recording yourself singing would be a better way to see if your on pitch because a guitar tuner is meant to read a constant note whereas when you sing a note, the pitch fluctuates unless your a good singer.

sorry that was a long sentence.

Peanutman514 04-28-2005 09:52 PM

Thanks for the reply,

also ive been singing for only a couple of weeks now but my range is from an f2 to a d5. does this mean im a tenor or baritone? And is it normal after practicing the extreme notes for my throat to hurt within 15 or so minutes? And after my throat starts hurting when i hit an f2 or f#2 my throat starts to make a quiet gargling sound almost.

LleWeLLyN 04-29-2005 02:08 PM

Hey. How u guys doing.. I just noticed something.. there are alot more male vocalists... Anyways.. I posted something about my self in another thread and i really don't feel lke goin back to copy paste.. So yeah.. I need help with stayin on key sometimes n merk i think u mentioned sumfingabout a program?????????????????? Cuz theres this one evanescence song that i CANNOT sing.. My immortal.. i hate it so much right now.. but i neeeeeeeeed to sing it WELL!
I don't like them as a band.. i just like her vocals.. I can sing alot of other stuff like Theater of Tragedy, Lullacry, Lacuna coil, two nightwish songs and Within temptations.. n just started towork on strengthening.. and that song is pissing me off!!

PunkyMcEmo 04-29-2005 06:50 PM

play a note on your guitar, and try to match it with your voice. use a tuner if you have to, just to make sure youre on tune. practice that until you can match notes pretty well, and youll be able to do it.


anyways, i have a question. when i sing agressively or scream, i get really lightheaded and dizzy. i can physically do it in most other aspects; my throat doesnt get sore from it and i dont get out of breath. but i get lightheaded. any suggestions?

LleWeLLyN 05-03-2005 10:06 AM

Thanks :)

I think it's cuz when u yell you stress and the blood rushes to your face.. then rushes back out which leads to diziness.. make sure you drink alot of water.. and if you can dissolve some sugar into your water which will give you a boost..

EatYourFace 05-03-2005 09:10 PM

Alright, I just got an account. I need tips for singing, punk style. Not raspy, but melodic. My style of punk is melodic, but not pop MTV punk. Favorite band is Pennywise. Just need some real tips or exercises or anything to help out. People like my songwritting, but I need the voice to back it up. Thanks.

Light_Fantastic 05-03-2005 11:35 PM

Hey EatYourFace....
Singing Punk is more about attitude & personal expression..Whatever your style is, if you snarl, growl, use monotones, it's all good...
Make sure you always exercise your voice before any type of live or studio singing.
Vocal lessons are great to teach you how to sing properly from your diaphram, where you can get more power & punch to the type of melodic punk vocals you want to achieve..
Good luck to you..
Jay

Merkaba 05-04-2005 01:30 AM

If youre getting dizzy youre using incorrect technique and definitely closing off your throat and creating the same pressure you would if you were lifting something. This isnt necessary for vibrating the little folds of flesh in your throat....so much so that it increases your internal pressure to the point of limiting blood to your brain.

Come on llewellyn, i think I could sing my immortal! And no, that was someone else that was mentioning a program. By best advice is to record yourself acapella. Nothing like it. Takes all the sugar coating and crutches away and teaches control immediately. Try it.

Singing into a tuner is challenging but not practical to me.

EatYourFace 05-04-2005 10:21 PM

Haha thanks JayLink, but I don't have the money for lessons. Is there any signs that one can notice to know that he is doing it right? Is there anyway I can "project" my voice or know that I am doing so? Thanks again for help.

ragingrob 05-04-2005 11:42 PM

[QUOTE=LleWeLLyN]Hey. How u guys doing.. I just noticed something.. there are alot more male vocalists...[/QUOTE]


i don't think there are many females on this site lol...

airborne50caliber 05-05-2005 09:58 AM

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any1 know what model this neumann is?

MartinC 05-05-2005 11:24 AM

I apologise in advance if this has already been posted, but does anybody know how to sing like Jeff Walker from Carcass or Alexi Laiho from Children of Bodom without totally ruining your throat? I can sort of do it but after a while it starts to strain my throat a little so I figure I must be doing it wrong.

EatYourFace 05-05-2005 02:04 PM

still need advice
 
Hey, I still want some advice on punk singing (melodic). Influences are Pennywise, Deviates, Cigar, Lagwagon, and other good melodic but not poppy bands. Please, anybody...

airborne50caliber 05-06-2005 01:15 AM

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any1 know what model this neumann is?[/QUOTE]

bump

IMONXTC 05-13-2005 11:11 PM

dont know if this was covered bcz i dont have time to read all 21 pages, but i have been singing since i can rember and in chorus for 2 years. im a bass. i can hit some really low notes and have a great range, and good pitch. im usually dead on with the note im trng to get but i think the problem is, somehow, my voice is to high pitched. i sound like a per-pubescent little boy. that would be okay if we were an emo band but we arent. i dont think this can be helped but if there is any way to fix this tell me please. (my drummer is gonna read this in about five minutes and laugh.)

Rats 05-14-2005 11:25 AM

how old are you? what is your range?

James Van Halen 05-17-2005 11:01 PM

This might have already been covered, but I don't feel like searching the whole topic. Are there any tips on growling? How to do it well? Like say Akerfeldt?
I can do it fairly decently, but there's always room for improvement.

Merkaba 05-18-2005 12:40 AM

[QUOTE=James Van Halen]This might have already been covered, but I don't feel like searching the whole topic. Are there any tips on growling? How to do it well? Like say Akerfeldt?
I can do it fairly decently, but there's always room for improvement.[/QUOTE]

Youre right! It has already been covered. But youre like me, I dont really feel like repeating it either! :thumb:

Theres not much you can do with cords. You close em up, push air against them to vibrate them. Everything else relies on strength and be able to isolate the cords' muscles from the throat/larynx muslces. [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]

FeralCats 05-18-2005 08:01 PM

Increasing vocal range
 
Hey, I can hit a High A fairly easily on good days...and I think I can do a High B.
However, I would like to increase my vocal range up to an E, or at least a C...do you know any excersises to increase my range? Things to know-
I am male.
I am fine with screaming.
I'd like to do this High C-E in Head voice.

Nick Morzov 05-19-2005 11:22 AM

[QUOTE=FeralCats]Hey, I can hit a High A fairly easily on good days...and I think I can do a High B.
However, I would like to increase my vocal range up to an E, or at least a C...do you know any excersises to increase my range? Things to know-
I am male.
I am fine with screaming.
I'd like to do this High C-E in Head voice.[/QUOTE]
that's quite the tough request for a forum lesson, try and "strech your chest voice until it cracks, more or less find the crack in your range from chest to head voice. Use a piano to find out what exact note, so that way you can work on it. Eventually practicing that will make the transition stronger, as well as your head voice. An other trick for the strech so it doesn't sound as airy, try and use more nasal, i know a lot say you're not supposed to, but that's because most don't do it right, sing out of your top teeth is that makes sense, not through them, out of them... use a little nose and a little mouth so the sound really is in between the two.. hard to explain. If you can sing through the nose and strech your chest voice's transition you'll be up there, you'll also be a great singer for just about any type of music

Be careful with screaming though. You have to make sure a majority of your air comes from your stomach and most of the distortion comes from a low strain in your throat, that way you're not really doing TOO much to your actual voice as much as other parts of your throat. I got a node from screaming and singing the wrong way and now i'm paying, i can't sing for this band i'm in for a while... :upset:

LleWeLLyN 05-22-2005 01:34 PM

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]
Come on llewellyn, i think I could sing my immortal! And no, that was someone else that was mentioning a program. By best advice is to record yourself acapella. Nothing like it. Takes all the sugar coating and crutches away and teaches control immediately. Try it.
[/QUOTE]
Hahaha! I'm SERIOUS! it just doesn't wanna work with me! You know.. i dunno what Amy Lee does, she kinda pushes it hard but mutes it or sumthing.. She does it in alot of her songs.. Gets annoying.. A capella is great.. i sang it a capella on the second night.. The first night of the performance i did it with the music and messed up.. I get too lost in the music.. :P :rolleyes: our talent show is next week and i need to get over my STAGE fright! My voice gets tight and i start shaking! How the hell do i get over it.. my friend said focus on what ur doing and pretend ur singing to someone in the audience u usually sing to..


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