nice

i have seen where they list as many as 25 differnet genres of metal before it is almost stupid how many differnt categories there are for metal these days
to me metal is metal but there is for sure a difference between black, death and heavy metal, i see those 3 as being totally differnt styles adn any otehr style of metal will incorperate 1 or more of those styles with it's on unique style

[QUOTE=clearvision]Heh i enjoyed reading this flamefest. However can't we just call music, music? And am i the only one who will just listen instead of trying to work out genres and so on...while im posting, catogorise HIM[/QUOTE]

agreed i just get interested in all the movements and besides its good that bands do tend to fall in a specific catagory it makes it easier to judge what type of music you do and dont like for instance i dont like death,black,power, and nu-metal not that there arent exceptions but generally i keep away from bands in those genres

Good music is good music and thats all that matters

[QUOTE=clearvision]Heh i enjoyed reading this flamefest. However can't we just call music, music? And am i the only one who will just listen instead of trying to work out genres and so on...while im posting, catogorise HIM[/QUOTE]
go back to the guitar forum :p him are gothic

Sorry Kreator sir. Please forgive me...their album is called love [B]metal[/B]

[SIZE=1]*crawls back to guitar forum!*[/SIZE]

i dont like HIM, quite frankly i think they suck.

what ever happened to old rock like deep purple, led zepplin so on.....?
thats the good stuff
GuItarFreEk xx

"i dont like HIM, quite frankly i think they suck."

No one gives a flying fu<k on your opinons of HIM. I just wanna know where they are catogorised. This isn't an opinion thread it's a classification thread. Though this may relate back to opinions it is not of whether they are good or bad but where they fit in the wide metal genre! You n00bs have alot to learn...

A pretty good list. You gave details and descriptions of the different genres.

The only things I noticed were : Shadows Fall and Killswitch Engage are definitely NOT Traditional heavy metal, and Slipknot cannot really be considered nu-metal, as their music is almost never played on the radio, and Vol.3 breaks the tradition of simple music with easy or no solos.

Other then this, good job.

This is great but could sumone gimme an example of what grindcore is? i heard it sumwhere and dont have a clue what it is.

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[QUOTE=LegionsofMarduk]wow...I honestly didn't expect this to go over as well. I wasn't trying to hit every single sub-genre. I was just going for the one's that are asked about frequently here.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=DarkOrchid]very cool :thumb: , but what catagory do cradle of filth and children of bodom fall into?[/COLOR]

cradle are black metal and children of bodom are melodic death

[QUOTE=Kreator]cradle are black metal and children of bodom are melodic death[/QUOTE]

HA! If cradle is black metal I guess that makes Slipnkot hardcore death... which it isnt. Cradle is to commercialised/mainstream to be labeled REAL black metal.

Not that there is anythin wrong with Cradle (I dont like them... but thats just me) they just dont exactly fall into real Black

Black metal doesn't have to be non-comercialised. Just cause alot of people like it, it can still be black metal. It relates back to the nu-metal thing

nice list man, dont see many people try to make that up

[QUOTE=Cacophonious]HA! If cradle is black metal I guess that makes Slipnkot hardcore death... which it isnt. Cradle is to commercialised/mainstream to be labeled REAL black metal.

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slipknot are still nu metal ;) well then they are unreal black metal

many ppl asked what HIM are...

theire are like 1000 bands in finnland that sound very similar to HIM.

just they dont sing in english so they never made it big (a lot of them better than HIM in my opinion)

the genre is calle "Suomi Rokko"

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another genre that hasent ben mentioned yet (i think) is "medieval metal"

personal fav: "In Extremo" (though i dont think youd have heard of them in the us... some songs would be "Die Gier" or "Der Wind" or "Der Rattenfänger"

cheers

FK


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and of course cradle is black metal... no matter how popular they become they will allways stay it... just like dimmu borgir

thankyou father..i knew HIM were some kind of genre lol

Am i being an un-observant idiot or has power metal been missed of the list of genres?

i think you are being un-observant...

[QUOTE=br3ad_man]Ok, here are all the genres of metal listed on allmusic.com:

Power Metal
Punk Metal
Stoner Metal
Scandinavian Metal
Doom Metal
New Wave of British Heavy M
Symphonic Black Metal
Pop-Metal
Neo-Classical Metal
Progressive Metal (done)
Industrial Metal (done)
British Metal
Alternative Metal
Funk Metal
Hair Metal
Thrash (done)
Death Metal/Black Metal (done)
Grindcore (done)
Speed Metal (done)

I wrote “done� next to the ones I’m pretty sure are done….everyone should feel free to write definitions.

Once they are all done, Marduk should edit his original post to include all the genres[/QUOTE]

Hair metal and power metal are the same deal man.... key bands: bon jovi, scorpions, twisted sister (not realli metal but you get the point) and any other bands with somewhat transvestive looking members

who is mustard plug?

what about avant-garde metal!

badass list, i'm not going to bother you with such questions like "why didn't you list the children of bodom under key bands for the black metal section?" but all in all, badass.
I didn't get a chance to read the whole thread, just the first page, and as the big mouthed critic i am, i'll have to reply to some stuff.

System of a Down is half nu-metal, and half whatever else they want to be, their weird dude, they're from Armenia. most Nu-Metal bands don't have the balls to do a swing breakdown with arabian guitar riffs over it.

and Hardcore, oh god.
Hardcore started in the 80's, and at that time, it was faster than punk, because the punk of the 70's wasn't really all that fast, just really raw (which is a nice way of saying sloppy as hell). Since then, punk as sped up a bit, and hardcore actually has slowed down (at certain points). The real main difference is that punk songs pretty much never change tempo, double-time drums the whole song, usually 1 or 2 chord progressions, and nothing spectacular. Hardcore is somewhat simple, but they at least switch it up a bit. If you really want to hear the comparison, download "hello pricks" by Sick Of It All (for hardcore) and for punk download....i dunno, anything by The Casualties, The Unseen, The Virus, anything that starts with "The". Punk bands have the stupidest names. although i guess metal band names aren't that much better.

Like i said, i didn't read the whole thread so i may either be repeating someone else, or maybe you guys just totally changed topic and i feel stupid now.

[QUOTE=Matyrdom]who is mustard plug?[/QUOTE]


Mustard Plug was a ska band that was fairly popular during the 3rd wave of ska like in '97 or '98. They never hit the radio, but anyone who was into ska definately at least heard their name mentioned.

But it doesn't matter. Nobody listens to ska anymore.

[U]Nu-metal[/U]
Nu-metal is the newest craze to hit mainstream rock radio. Without trying to bash it too much, generally speaking the music structure is very simplistic. Lyrics cover subjects that are close to todays teens (depression, abuse, drugs etc). There are very few guitar solos and the one's that are there are typically very simple and short. Vocals can range from the more metal influenced to a fusion of metal and rap. Guitars are often downtuned or drop tuned. This genre is generally not very popular among listeners of other metal music, but it is the newest craze and therefore very promoted and heavily played on the radio. Bands: Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Linkin Park, Disturbed.

I think Slipknot has sort of balanced between nu-metal and death metal...the lyrics are usually about how american society is scapegoating and blaming things like columbine and 9/11 on them...plus they're starting to incorporate solos in their music, and they are neither simple nor short.

woops, that was supposed to be a quote

i never heard a single slipknot son gon the radio. they'd cause car crashes dammit

One Question.. what do you guys reckon Static-X would be classified under?

great effort, interesting read in the black metal part, I personally wouldn't even listen to a band no matter how good the music was if they were ignorant enough to promote racism of any kind in their lyrics, would just be a waste of talent IMO, just me though

[quote]i never heard a single slipknot son gon the radio. they'd cause car crashes dammit[/quote]

i used to hear wait and bleed on the radio
not that i like slipknot, im just saying ive heard them

i think the list is pretty nicely done, i learned quite a bit though