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moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 08:58 AM

here's a great phrase.

In Romaji

Boku wa ichiban no doramaa desu yo.

Stickman Sam 01-09-2007 09:15 AM

Ichiban confused me the most out of that, the only word I knew solidly was doramaa :P

I should really start learning again. The only things I learned that really stuck were "O genki desu ka." and "Oyasuminasai". Mainly because I was learning from this really hot chick I talk to on msn.

~~

moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 09:19 AM

ichiban means "Number one"

boku wa [as for me]
ichiban no doramaa [number one drummer]
desu yo [am!]

that's literally, [I'm the number one drummer!]


can you read much?

Kosmos Tree 01-09-2007 09:29 AM

[QUOTE=moogoogaipan;13988159]私はえいきゅうにドラムをします。

^^see if you can figure that out.[/QUOTE]

I'm writing this for the third time now... damn language switching - makes my browser go mad :angry:


それはかんたんです。あなたは「私はえいきゅうにドラムをします。」といいました。:D
けれども、辞書で「えいきゅう」をけんさくできませんでした。しかし、「firstclass」の意味があることと思います。

ところで、「日本語が上手です」はただしいです。すみません。;)

CasB 01-09-2007 09:37 AM

Hmmz, at work I could see the character, at home I can't...

Doesn't matter though, I can't read it anyway.

Stickman Sam 01-09-2007 09:39 AM

I got boku, got doramaa, got no, got desu; I am drummer was all I got, I was going to hazard a guess at ichiban but it probably would've been "I am ___ of drums".

I didn't learn quite enough grammar to be able to have a decent conversation unfortunately.

Think I'll do my DVD-ROM later, when I can be bothered to reach down and switch the PC off.

~~

Kosmos Tree 01-09-2007 09:43 AM

Japanese grammar is pretty easy, it's the vocabulary (and most of all Kanji) and all the little "hyougen" that makes it difficult imo.

moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 09:50 AM

[QUOTE=Kosmos Tree;13988296]

それはかんたんです。あなたは「私はえいきゅうにドラムをします。」といいました。
けれども、辞書で「えいきゅう」をけんさくできませんでした。しかし、「firstclass」の意味があることと思います。

[/QUOTE]

Well, I'm impressed. You're my new favorite MXer.

I'm unclear on what the verb といいます means, though.:upset:
if you could perhaps tell me.
and since I've only just started Kanji, I'm having a hard time locating the meanings for those aside from 日本語 and 上手.

This is fun, though, let's start easier. For my sake, as it's clear that you have a good understanding.

私はまいにちくるまでだいがくえいきます。

[QUOTE=Kosmos Tree;13988296]
ところで、「日本語が上手です」はただしいです。すみません。;)[/QUOTE]
Thought so.:p

and indeed, the "hyougen" are tough little bastards... but I've heard that English idioms are much more weird and numerous than Japanese.

Stickman Sam 01-09-2007 10:12 AM

I learned that no = of, ka. = ?, desu = to be (I think). That's about it.

Damn, I don't know anything. Would be nice to learn, though.

~~

moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 10:15 AM

[QUOTE=Stickman Sam;13988436]I learned that no = of, ka. = ?, desu = to be (I think). That's about it.

Damn, I don't know anything. Would be nice to learn, though.

~~[/QUOTE]

yeah, no = of, or often just a possessive particle.

Since you can't say Ichiban Doramaa, it sounds weird, you connect it with "no" indicating that ichiban is describing doramaa. hence "number one drummer"

you got those particles right.

I'd like to learn more, that's why I'm taking classes. I'd also like to be able to practice. My one friend who was taking the class with me is a numbskull and can't remember **** about languages so I usually have no one to practice with.

So if you've got questions, ask here, I've got a bit of knowledge and Kosmo is also apparently got experience with the language.

Kosmos Tree 01-09-2007 10:31 AM

Thanks :)

As a Kanji Beginner it is pretty hard to read but after a while it's pretty hard without Kanji - i had a hard time reading your sentence ;)
You wrote "くるま", in Kanji it would just be 車 or 自動車(jidousha) - which makes it easier to understand and determine it's word class.

と いいました is past tense, と いいます - と いう (dict.) と 言う (Kanji)
It is used for direct and reported speech, It's: "You have said..." and then ijust quoted you sentence in the brackets.

辞書 jisho - dictionary
意味 imi - meaning
思う - omou - to think/believe
上手 - jouzu

うちからだいがくまであるいて15じゅっぷんにかかりますから、くるまでいきません。でも、さむいだたら、
でんしゃでいきます。
うちからだいがくまでなんじかんぐらいかかりますか。

trysthedrummer 01-09-2007 10:31 AM

All I see are square boxes. Install windows language packs?

It did promt me but I never have done.

the_pure_drummer 01-09-2007 10:34 AM

I see lots and lots of question marks!

Kosmos Tree 01-09-2007 10:43 AM

[QUOTE=moogoogaipan;13988445]
I'd like to learn more, that's why I'm taking classes. I'd also like to be able to practice. My one friend who was taking the class with me is a numbskull and can't remember **** about languages so I usually have no one to practice with.

So if you've got questions, ask here, I've got a bit of knowledge and Kosmo is also apparently got experience with the language.[/QUOTE]

It's essential for the language to continually practise it, or you will forget more than you learn (esp. Kanji and Vocabulary) simply because you don't have to use it and probably can use it just on rare occasions.


I study Japanese, but i had a break from it - and now i'm catching up again. Ii'm not very good with conversations (because all we do in our classes is reading and translating) but i have a tandem partner now and it'll hopefully improve. If you have questions - i'll answer them to the best of my abilities - it's a good practise for me too.

trysthedrummer 01-09-2007 11:03 AM

Yeah I was right. I never installed any language packs when I formatted n re-installed windows so it sqaure boxes Im afraid for now

they do look quite nice

moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 11:07 AM

[QUOTE=trysthedrummer;13988597]Yeah I was right. I never installed any language packs when I formatted n re-installed windows so it sqaure boxes Im afraid for now

they do look quite nice[/QUOTE]

just so you know.. you don't need the disc. The language packs are readily available on the internet. I lost my disc a long time ago, but when I started learning Japanese, I searched Microsoft's site and found downloadable language packs.

Corkofski 01-09-2007 11:20 AM

??????????? ????? ? ? ? ??????????????? ???? ???

? ?? ???????? ?????? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ??? ??????????


?????? ? ? ???????????? ???? ??

the_pure_drummer 01-09-2007 11:22 AM

?????????? ????? ? ???????? ? ??????? ? ??????? ? ?
? ?????? ? ???????????? ??????? ?????? ?? ?
???? ?????? ??????? ?????? ? ? ? ????????

??? ?? ???????!

moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 11:29 AM

^^^あなたはとてもおおきいばかですよ。:lol:

trysthedrummer 01-09-2007 11:32 AM

lol. Yeah suppose so.

When I cliked on the japanese it started to copy the files, then it said to insert the windows cd so I might just do that.

Der Meister 01-09-2007 11:58 AM

hey guys, aint been on in an age. sup

moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 12:01 PM

いっらっしゃい。

We're speaking in Japanese now.

Der Meister 01-09-2007 12:02 PM

oh

*leaves*

trysthedrummer 01-09-2007 12:07 PM

Yer you havent been on here for ages. Weird though, about 1 hour ago I saw you in the mx photo album.

The Ska Man 01-09-2007 12:19 PM

God..I feel stupid.I've picked up like, a line and some words in Japanese from watching some sub anime, thats it, though..Hajimemashite is something along the lines of "Hello, nice to meet you" right?

Kage is shadow?
Hoshi=star
Bunshin=clone


Also, thanks for explaining "no" to me. I had no clue to it's meaning.

Retarded Chipple 01-09-2007 12:23 PM

Hentai....


and itchy=1 knee=2 san=3

The extent of my japanese! (if its even japenese!!!)

moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 12:24 PM

yeah.

hajimemashite is something you say when you first meet someone... but never again.

and you usually follow it up with Douzo Yoroshiku.

Yeah, Chipple.

Ichi - 1
Ni - 2
San - 3
Yon/Shi - 4
Go - 5
Roku - 6
Nana/Shichi - 7
Hachi - 8
Kyuu/Ku - 9
Juu - 10

haha... hentai. Noun meaning pervert.

Kainen 01-09-2007 12:41 PM

i must learn japanese. For I wish to visit japan in a year or so.

moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 12:45 PM

well, good luck. You better get on it.
It'll probably take you that long to just get down the basics.

Kainen 01-09-2007 12:46 PM

yeah i probably won't learn, most japanese people speak enough english.

moshpitdrummer 01-09-2007 12:50 PM

[QUOTE=British Boy;6580039]Question: Who is everyones idols in life?[/QUOTE]

Frank Zappa

probly my fav musician. some suggested listening by him is zoot allures, watermelon in easter hay (crazy time sigs and changes), andy (listen to ruth underwood on the marimba at the beginning), purple haze (its a remix of hendrix's version... i suggest listening to hendrix's first, then this... its out there!) , and cheepnis.

moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 12:51 PM

I wouldn't make that assumption. From knowing a lot of Japanese people, most people in Japan learn English to get through school and then don't remember jack about it.

Any average person in Japan who can speak English will have a very little vocabulary and even littler understanding of what you are saying.

Plus, it's kind of rude to go into a foreign country and expect people to pander to you. You're in their country, speak their language.

trysthedrummer 01-09-2007 12:56 PM

True. When my brother went to Hong Kong he said he felt bad because he never knew a word they were on about. He said he would have loved to have spoke a bit here and there.

But then again, someday I will want to go over there, but Im not going to learn different languages just because Im visiting their country.

Retarded Chipple 01-09-2007 01:01 PM

[QUOTE=moogoogaipan;13988894]haha... hentai. Noun meaning pervert.[/QUOTE]


Exactly...thats why I'm so in there with all those Asian chicks! :naughty:

Win A Rabbit 01-09-2007 01:04 PM

So we're supposed to be getting a huge blizzard today and tomorrow. I just heard on the news they're expecting 15-20 cm of snow today, and then way way more tomorrow. Should be fun. I love snow.

moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 01:05 PM

[QUOTE=trysthedrummer;13989027]
But then again, someday I will want to go over there, but Im not going to learn different languages just because Im visiting their country.[/QUOTE]

well, That seems rather lame.
I mean, I know some people can't afford the time to learn, but what's the point of going to another country to just visit and not immerse yourself.

You have to be able to speak with locals and take in the surroundings, so if you go sight-seeing you aren't like... well, what the hell's with this temple and the only other guy you are traveling with is like... pff.. hell if I know. Let's ask somone....wait... we can't.

trysthedrummer 01-09-2007 01:06 PM

Yeah good point

The Ska Man 01-09-2007 01:10 PM

[QUOTE=moogoogaipan;13988894]yeah.

hajimemapoope is something you say when you first meet someone... but never again.

and you usually follow it up with Douzo Yoroshiku.

Yeah, Chipple.

Ichi - 1
Ni - 2
San - 3
Yon/Shi - 4
Go - 5
Roku - 6
Nana/Shichi - 7
Hachi - 8
Kyuu/Ku - 9
Juu - 10

haha... hentai. Noun meaning pervert.[/QUOTE]

So, Juu is ten, Taj[y?]uu (No idea if that's how it is..can't remember...) would be?

oliv_da_skinmasher 01-09-2007 01:11 PM

I never completely learn a language. I learn a few handy phrases, you know the basics. Then you pick up more while there

moogoogaipan 01-09-2007 01:13 PM

[QUOTE=Punkdrummer...;13989111]So, Juu is ten, Taj[y?]uu (No idea if that's how it is..can't remember...) would be?[/QUOTE]

I have no idea, what did you just spell?

[QUOTE=Retarded Chipple;13989045]Exactly...thats why I'm so in there with all those Asian chicks! :naughty:[/QUOTE]
You only wish that.
You gotta speak their language first... I've got a running head start on you:)


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