[QUOTE=Jondur;6883218]Doom education:

Albums you must own:

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, Nightfall
Revelation - Yet So Far
St Vitus - V
Solstice - New Dark Age
Solitude Aeturnus - Through The Darkest Hour
Trouble - The Skull[/QUOTE]

This really depends on what kind of doom you want to get into!!! These mentioned bands fall into the Traditional (St Vitus, Solitude Aeturnus) and Epic doom (Candlemass [some of you may argue with me on this one], Solstice). As for Revelation, I haven't heard that one. And Trouble fall's into the Stoner/doom category - probably -, with nice Rock'n'Roll/Feel good thing. although I only heard two albums...

If you want to listen to some "newer" Doom with a little Death metal (ie Doom/Death), then I would recommend: My Dying Bride (older), Anathema (old), Mourning Beloveth (the 'Sullen Sulcus' album is what I recommend to start with), Evoken (the new album just came out, it's wonderful), Ataraxie (these guys have only one album, but it's awesome. It borders Funeral Doom at some places, and has Death metal parts), AHAB (imagine Moby Dick, and Doom, and you'll get AHAB :), Disembowelment (Raw-raw Doom/Death, this band is actually one of the first Doom/death bands, beside Winter), Officium Triste. And some newer doom/death bands I listened to are: Before the Rain, The Drowning, Syrach, Eria d'Or, Imindain...

In about 1990-1991 Doom metal spawned another subgenre Funeral Doom (probably one of my favorite subgenre :naughty: ). These bands focused more on emotions (emotions being mainly about Depression), and not the music (although this can be sad for Doom/death, but I think it's a bit less present. You're welcome to argue!). Some cult Funeral bands are: Thergothon, Skepticism and Funeral (Norway). But if i where someone that was new to Funeral Doom, I wouldn't start with these bands! And some of the "easy" listening funeral doom bands are: Shape Of Despair (the most well known funeral doom band) (start with Angels of distress), Longing for Dawn (ambiental Funeral Doom!), Nortt (Black Funeral doom), Tyranny (Great atmosphere), Wreck of the Hesperus, Colosseum, Wijlen Wij, Worship...

Other Subcategories are: Gothic/Doom (My dying Bride [newer], Novembre?), Avantgarde doom (Esoteric), Epic Doom (Isole), Sludge doom (Crowbar), Drone doom (Sunn O))) ), Black doom (Nortt)..........

and there are a lot of GREAT doom bands: something I urge you to buy despite what I sad above is: Warning Watching From a Distance (a combination of Funeral and Epic Doom). Just listen to it once! You will not regret it! (this goes for not just doom metal fans, not just metal fans, but for music lovers in general) general!!!)

and now as for who is my favorite Stoner/doom band: it is Wall of Sleep from Hungary who incorporate lot of groovy stuff in their music!

pfewww

Cheers TnG
and Stay DoooM!

Nice taste. \m/
Funeral doom and ambient drone rock.

[quote=Tng]and now as for who is my favorite Stoner/doom band: it is Wall of Sleep from Hungary who incorporate lot of groovy stuff in their music![/quote]

I love Wall of Sleep

[quote=Luc]Pate if you give me your email I'll send it to you too if you want it.[/quote]

leesmitty51 at gmail.com

Thanks :p

that was a impressive list of doom bands if you ask me...

i still only listen to death doom (My Dying Bride, old Anathema and old Katatonia) or just funeral doom a la Shape of Despair and of course SunnO))) which i saw already live a year ago :D

[QUOTE=Tng;15569307]This really depends on what kind of doom you want to get into!!! These mentioned bands fall into the Traditional (St Vitus, Solitude Aeturnus) and Epic doom (Candlemass [some of you may argue with me on this one], Solstice). As for Revelation, I haven't heard that one. And Trouble fall's into the Stoner/doom category - probably -, with nice Rock'n'Roll/Feel good thing. although I only heard two albums...

If you want to listen to some "newer" Doom with a little Death metal (ie Doom/Death), then I would recommend: My Dying Bride (older), Anathema (old), Mourning Beloveth (the 'Sullen Sulcus' album is what I recommend to start with), Evoken (the new album just came out, it's wonderful), Ataraxie (these guys have only one album, but it's awesome. It borders Funeral Doom at some places, and has Death metal parts), AHAB (imagine Moby Dick, and Doom, and you'll get AHAB :), Disembowelment (Raw-raw Doom/Death, this band is actually one of the first Doom/death bands, beside Winter), Officium Triste. And some newer doom/death bands I listened to are: Before the Rain, The Drowning, Syrach, Eria d'Or, Imindain...

In about 1990-1991 Doom metal spawned another subgenre Funeral Doom (probably one of my favorite subgenre :naughty: ). These bands focused more on emotions (emotions being mainly about Depression), and not the music (although this can be sad for Doom/death, but I think it's a bit less present. You're welcome to argue!). Some cult Funeral bands are: Thergothon, Skepticism and Funeral (Norway). But if i where someone that was new to Funeral Doom, I wouldn't start with these bands! And some of the "easy" listening funeral doom bands are: Shape Of Despair (the most well known funeral doom band) (start with Angels of distress), Longing for Dawn (ambiental Funeral Doom!), Nortt (Black Funeral doom), Tyranny (Great atmosphere), Wreck of the Hesperus, Colosseum, Wijlen Wij, Worship...

Other Subcategories are: Gothic/Doom (My dying Bride [newer], Novembre?), Avantgarde doom (Esoteric), Epic Doom (Isole), Sludge doom (Crowbar), Drone doom (Sunn O))) ), Black doom (Nortt)..........

and there are a lot of GREAT doom bands: something I urge you to buy despite what I sad above is: Warning Watching From a Distance (a combination of Funeral and Epic Doom). Just listen to it once! You will not regret it! (this goes for not just doom metal fans, not just metal fans, but for music lovers in general) general!!!)

and now as for who is my favorite Stoner/doom band: it is Wall of Sleep from Hungary who incorporate lot of groovy stuff in their music!

pfewww

Cheers TnG
and Stay DoooM![/QUOTE]

:eek: :)

reps for mentioning Funeral (who don't get a lot of recognition) and Mourning Beloveth (who also don't).

Though I would classify Esoteric as Funeral Doom, they definitely are more experimental.

A couple great Funeral Doom bands I would like to add to this list are Torture Wheel and Wraith Of The Ropes.

Have any of you guys heard Imindain? I think I got their CD with The Monad of Creation off Ebay.

Their full-length is great.

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15570041]Have any of you guys heard Imindain? I think I got their CD with [B]The Monad of Creation[/B] off Ebay.

Their full-length is great.[/QUOTE]

Mournful Congregation rules.

Pate I send you that Witchcraft. You'd better like it.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Luc214;15566525]Witchcraft is an awesome band.[/QUOTE]

Witchcraft are pretty cool, I bought 'If Crimson Was Your Colour' on green 7" a few weeks ago.

Edit: just found some Kyuss on my girlfriends laptop *listens*

Oh pate, could you send me Wrath of Ragnarok's Deflagration?

the2stranger: Nice Avatar... you don't want me to start talking about Arcturus. They are fabulous... Sideshow Symphonies is probably my favorite albums of all time (in the NOT doom genre). A great drummer, with great musicians, and great atmosphere, and wonderful music. Don't get me wrong, the album isn't perfect, but I think a not perfect album is much more enjoyable, then a perfect one!

Oh yeah and just so you people know, the mastermind behind arcturus (keyboardist), has a side project called Spiral Architect... and this music IS crazy! People who like progressive music, with a lot of other genre influences (but it's mostly metal), I urge you to check it out! oh, and it's not the usual Dream theater Prog, trust me!!!
(ok, this was a bit of topic) :(

repcak: Personally, I don't like Sunn O))) . But I hear that there music live is totally different then on records! So, if i have a chance, then i will check them out live!
Can you tell me you're experience from the concert???

Luc214: Yes, Funeral is a great band! the earlier albums (Tristesse, and Tragedies) are cult stuff, and hard to find! There bassist, Einar Andre Fredriksen, was/is and idol for me, in some strange way... it sadeness (not sure, how this is written) me that he commited suicide :'( .
And I think Mourning Beloveth have a lot of recognition in the underground scene (mostly, or almost only among doom fans). Don't get me wrong, but there are a lot of talented doom bands, who don't get even that. Doom bands who only played in their country (in a 150km radius), and have world wide fans, just because their music can be downloaded through the internet... Such a band would be The River for example... (I really don't know if downloading music is a "good" or "bad" thing)

Nostalgia: Yes, Imindain is a great band, but I don't like the drums :) (yes, I'm a drummer! :D )


OK... Epic doom! Well I don't know precisely, where it began, but that's not the point. As in any doom subgenre, epic doom also concentrates on atmosphere, although a bit differently. To tell the truth it's a bit confusing for me too, since there are a lot of bands like: Solstice, Doomsword... who concentrate their music on Power metal themes (Dragons, battles and stuff). and then there are bands who concentrate more on emotions, struggles, inner battles... these would be: Warning (as I mentioned in my last post), Lamented Souls (you guys probably don't even know this, but vocal duties are carried out by, none other then Simen Hestnaes from Dimmu Borgir... you know the bassist with are really awesome voice... well in lamented souls it only gets better), Isole (also a great band from Sweden, and they have an album coming out in early 2008. Can't wait! Check out their second album: Throne of Void!), Morgion (unfortunately they disbanded in 2004 or 2005, not sure, anyway they had a little different recipe, than the other doom bands, but still very epic, and atmospheric as HELL!), Raven Black Night (they are mosly heavy metal, with a some doom - epic doom - influences... but nevertheless still great)... Anyway as you can figure out, there are 2 common types of Epic doom... Anyway you choose what you like!

Oh, and I forgot about another important band: The 3rd and the Mortal ... they probably fall into the gothic/doom category. and a lot of newer bands try to copy them (not only doom bands). For me the Tears Laid in Earth (1994) by The 3rd and the Mortal, and Autumnal's - Grey Universe (2006) have a lot in common! (You're welcome for a battle on this one! :))) )

OK...

Cheers!
TnG

PS: there is a doom metal community, if you want to, check it out... you can find some info, news, articles, reviews... there: [url]www.doom-metal.com[/url]

You are the first guy in here to talk about The 3rd and the Mortal, they kick major ***. It's not my favorite type of doom but they are a total exception. You listen to some really good bands. Do you like Minotauri?

I listened to them once... nothing special in my opinion, but that's cause i'm not a huge trad. doom fan... I like mostly the newer doom styles! Count from 1990 till present...

PS: you have a great avatar! Is that you?

Haha, I wish...it's Nathan Weaver from Wolves in the Throne Room. Do you like Burning Witch? I've been listening to them a lot lately, Stephen is so ****ing great in that band! such a shame they only released 1 album.

I just got Nadja - Radiance of Shadows, pretty cool stuff.

[QUOTE=Txus;15571132]Haha, I wish...it's Nathan Weaver from Wolves in the Throne Room. Do you like Burning Witch? I've been listening to them a lot lately, Stephen is so ****ing great in that band! such a shame they only released 1 album.[/QUOTE]

Burning Witch is ****in great.

And I've heard of The 3rd And The Mortal, but haven't had a chance to check them out yet.

I believe Atrox's vocalist's sister is in them.

Yeah, they are amazing.

Nadja is ****ing ace but I kind of prefer The Angelic Process.

Does anyone like Thee Plague Of Gentlemen?

Heavy as ****.

I really like their album.

[QUOTE=Luc214;15570507]Oh pate, could you send me Wrath of Ragnarok's Deflagration?[/QUOTE]

Sure thing, but get ready for some shitty vocals.

and music...

And production...

and lyrics

I'm just curious as I've only heard Pouring.

Did you like the Witchcraft at all?

And this new Evoken is ace.

I rather like this Lee. :)

Except I wish you would actually sing more.

Or maybe growl.

Ahh there's no way I'm going to be able to sleep soundly falling asleep to the new Evoken.

Bring on the traumatizing nightmares.

Listened to Nadja's [i]Guilted By the Sun[/i] while at work today, and it blew me away.

[QUOTE=Luc214;15572437]I rather like this Lee. :)

Except I wish you would actually sing more.

Or maybe growl.[/QUOTE]

Hehe thanks. It was an experiment with the vocals, and it failed horribly. We'll be doing another album in late '08/early '09, and it will have like all singing.

Would I like the album, Pate?