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killa_bees77 10-19-2005 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]I looove the Funeral Portrait. The growling on that song just kills me. After the "round the nucleus of joy" part, the scream is so demonic, it gives me goosebumps.

Incidentally, I dislike the intro to Dirge. His voice is really off-key and weak sounding.[/QUOTE]

thats called singing 'raw'. :thumb: that was straight up with minimal effects probably just a little bit of reverb. And I have to disagree with all of you. Dirge kicks huge amounts of ass. Yeah it is different from the other songs in that it has that huge middle section but its such an epic sounding song. The chord progression is so majestic, it sends chills down my spine. Not to mention the intro and ending clean sections are superb. Definitely an underrated song.

Oh by the way, that part in Funeral Portrait, i agree, its orgasmic :naughty:

Kage 10-19-2005 09:44 PM

I don't think there's a single weak point on BWP. It's my favorite metal album of all time. Quite a prestigious title, but such a masterpiece deserves it. I think their sound is the most cohesive on that abum, and the songs are all expertly crafted. The title track is possibly the greatest metal song ever. The riffs in there are just so [I]huge[/I] and epic. Really an amazing song.

Darkness 10-19-2005 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]The title track is possibly the greatest metal song ever. The riffs in there are just so [I]huge[/I] and epic. Really an amazing song.[/QUOTE]
I agree.

Hive 10-19-2005 10:27 PM

waiting eagerly for that radio show at 10. Where is this station based?

Bicuspid 10-19-2005 11:04 PM

I got into Opeth when a friend of mine picked up Orchid for me Christmas of 95', been a huge fan ever since. I wasn't to big on TGR when it first came out, but after a few listens, it grew on me. I think it's their worst album, but still pretty damn good. Orchid is still my favorite Opeth album with Still Life in second.

Hive 10-19-2005 11:13 PM

well the interview isn't until later apparently. We have to deal with a bunch of emo bands first :upset:. Good station though. Not used to hearing metal on the radio.

matt4 10-19-2005 11:17 PM

I actually interpreted the song to be someone drowning someone to rid themselves of the pain of having them around (maybe an abusive person or whatever), but the guilt of having murdered them is worse for the murderer to endure than the pain the person caused them. So it would be better had they not "delivered" themselves by drowning the other person. I quote the same line:

"Deliverance.....Thrown back at me
Deliverance......Laughing at me"

Hive 10-19-2005 11:21 PM

[QUOTE]I actually interpreted the song to be someone drowning someone to rid themselves of the pain of having them around (maybe an abusive person or whatever), but the guilt of having murdered them is worse for the murderer to endure than the pain the person caused them. So it would be better had they not "delivered" themselves by drowning the other person. I quote the same line:

"Deliverance.....Thrown back at me
Deliverance......Laughing at me"[/QUOTE]
good job, I knew it was supposed to be a deep song, but never really understood.

Hive 10-20-2005 12:21 AM

listening to the radio show. Those guys are so cool. Here's a quote:

Jackie: "Were there any bands on the Sounds of the Underground that you liked?"
Peter:"No (laughs)"
All: (laugh)
:lol:

so amazing to hear them on the radio. Just played Ghost of Perdition.

ElectricalStorm 10-20-2005 12:35 AM

[QUOTE=matt4]I actually interpreted the song to be someone drowning someone to rid themselves of the pain of having them around (maybe an abusive person or whatever), but the guilt of having murdered them is worse for the murderer to endure than the pain the person caused them. So it would be better had they not "delivered" themselves by drowning the other person. I quote the same line:

"Deliverance.....Thrown back at me
Deliverance......Laughing at me"[/QUOTE]

Our interpretations are similar and I take it you misunderstood me--reread my post.

Although at no point is it undoubtedly clear why the narrator drowns the person, it definitely does not seem to be an abusive person. From what we can gather lyrically the victim is a female in a serious relationship with the narrator and that this victim also happens to be suffering emotionally for whatever reason.

Why a serious relationship?

"Tell me how your heart its need, As I drown you in the sea.."

Said victim is confiding in the narrator

"From love to death, In a time span of seconds"

Pretty self explanatory. The victim goes from feelings of love (an emotion tied to life) to death in a matter of seconds.

Why Female?

Well for one reason, the above lines lead us to believe its a relationship. Therefore it is most likely male-female.

There are more reasons but this one is the big one,

"The piercing sounds you make, soaring higher higher now"
A high pitched and piercing scream--two characteristically female traits. Now if you've been reading closely, you might be thinking the victim might be Rob Halford, and although the evidence doesn't refute this in any way, I think not:lol:

I also feel that in some twisted way the narrator feels that this is best for the victim,

"In liquid cellophane, gasping for air
Mercy in my eyes....."

Furthermore, the feelings that the narrator has are more than just guilt, they're consequences heavily rooted in supernatural elements. Religious overtones are almost everywhere--and I'll presesnt them in a cursory fashion.

"Wait to see your [I]spirit[/I] free"

"Oblivious to regret, pushed into belief"

There is definitely spirtual implications and I won't go into this now, but we can most surely tell that this line suggests that the narrator believes there is something beyond death--that it isn't the end.

"The downward spiral never ends
When driven into to [I]sin[/I]
Your [I]salvation's[/I] found in a [I]sinner's[/I] deed"

All italicized words are religiously charged words. Ignoring them would be ignoring a critical element of this song's tale. Again I'll leave details up to the rest of you. But note that the narrator's considers the victims death a salvation.

And if you had any doubts about the religious theme as the driving factor....

"Devil guides the way
Tells me what to say
Pours himself inside
Snuffs the final light
Deliverence......Thrown back at me
Deliverence......Laughing at me"

Sorry for such poor organization, prove to me that I'm not wasting my typing all this out and I'll polish my [I]shit[/I] next time.

Well there you have it this is poetry. The profound nature of poetry lies in the way the poet uses certain words to achieve a subtle grace and also infuse depth into their writing. The true meaning is not explicit but implicit.

All of Opeth's lyrics are poetic, but most aren't poetry. Not the case for this gem though, so take it in for all its glory.

ElectricalStorm 10-20-2005 12:39 AM

Okay I seriously want some feedback over this, I lost sleep typing it. If I get nothing I packing my stuff, changing my avatar, and going to the Dream Theater or Porcupine Tree thread(love both those bands too y'know) They can have my .33 posts a day!:p

Hive 10-20-2005 12:41 AM

hey dont leave. Great 84th post. I'm still takin it all in.

Hive 10-20-2005 12:47 AM

another quote:

Jackie: "Are you guys Morbid Angel fans?"
Both: "huge"
Jackie: "Now you guys sing about death and disease and stuff and you are real nice guys, Morbid Angel guys...scary"
Mikael: "Really? I'm not scared of them."
Jackie: "They are scary"
Mikael: "Actually we met them in 1996 and they were quite nice."
Jackie: "Well maybe they just dont like girls or something"
all laugh

Cain 10-20-2005 01:14 AM

Two weeks until the NYC show!

I'm psyched. :D

lost_profits 10-20-2005 03:00 AM

[QUOTE=epihasi]Godhead's lament has the most beautiful acoustic part in it. I know this has been said here a lot, but that part is worth another mention. Although the Moor's acoustic part is close behind, if not even as beautiful as GL.[/QUOTE]


Godhead's lament?
The chorus is uninspiring for me.

And as for acoustic sections i'll take 6.09 into 'When' any day over it.

lost_profits 10-20-2005 03:03 AM

[QUOTE=Cain]I like the Funeral Portrait. But you're right, Dirge for November drags a lot. The acoustic stuff at the beginning is really nice though.[/QUOTE]


I will say that Still Life GREATLY benefits as a concept album. Yeah that first acoustic fingerpicking part in "Dirge" is one of their finest acoustic moments.

Deth 10-20-2005 05:49 AM

[QUOTE=lost_profits]I will say that Still Life GREATLY benefits as a concept album. Yeah that first acoustic fingerpicking part in "Dirge" is one of their finest acoustic moments.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, as an album as a whole, it really helps.

ElectricalStorm, good stuff.

Bicuspid 10-20-2005 07:14 AM

I think the intro to When is the best acoustic part they have ever done. Fun as hell to play too.

Kage 10-20-2005 09:46 AM

[QUOTE=ElectricalStorm]Deliverance analysis[/QUOTE]
Amazing job, dude, keep at it. Your interpretation is beautiful, and I know have a greater appreciation for the song. I'd like to discuss some of the things I really found to be thought-provoking, but I'm pressed for time right now.

JamJar 10-20-2005 10:31 AM

i just got MAYH, the other day, I'm still getting into it but I think I'm going to love it. Demon Of The Fall is such an amazing song and I love the ending of it so much. Which one should I get next? (I have SL and BWP aswell)

Drone 10-20-2005 10:52 AM

Get Morningrise! It is essential to the Opeth listener in my opinion.

Det_Nosnip 10-20-2005 11:10 AM

If you want something different, go for Dam nation. :)

Hive 10-20-2005 11:22 AM

Still Life is still my favourite. BWP is up there.

The Brad 10-20-2005 11:39 AM

That interview last night was crap. 2 hours of pseudo-metal and an insane amount of commercials just to hear Mikael and Peter talk for maybe fifteen minutes and they gave [I]Ghost of Perdition[/I] a fade out after like 5 minutes? So lame. They did it while they were in the studio too, that had to be so insulting. Then the way Jackie was pronouncing it just got annoying: Opith, Opith, Oputh, O-peth. Then she's saying she's a huge fan and she doesn't even know about [U]Lamentations[/U]? Seriously got trapped in her own lies, another Juliya-esque faux metal chick. Just get someone in there who actually enjoys the music regardless of radio personality, seeing as how not much is needed other than saying the station's name everytime they go to or return from a commercial break.

Reywas 10-20-2005 11:46 AM

Can you guys suggest me some Opeth songs?It's really hard for me to get into them because I feel most of their songs are overshadowed by Bleak and Black Rose Immortal.I'm sure they have more fine songs.

Txus 10-20-2005 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=Nobuo>>>>=God]Can you guys suggest me some Opeth songs?It's really hard for me to get into them because I feel most of their songs are overshadowed by Bleak and Black Rose Immortal.I'm sure they have more fine songs.[/QUOTE]
Well try:
Beneath The Mire
Deliverance
Reverie/Harlequin Forest
When
To Bid Your Farewell
The Funeral Portrait
The Lepper Affinity
A Fair Judgement
By The Pain I See In Others
Windowpane
Harvest
Masters Apprentice

Cain 10-20-2005 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]If you want something different, go for Dam nation. :)[/QUOTE]

Damnation isn't censored anymore, Det.

i am the robots 10-20-2005 11:52 AM

[QUOTE=The Brad]That interview last night was crap. 2 hours of pseudo-metal and an insane amount of commercials just to hear Mikael and Peter talk for maybe fifteen minutes and they gave [I]Ghost of Perdition[/I] a fade out after like 5 minutes? So lame. They did it while they were in the studio too, that had to be so insulting. Then the way Jackie was pronouncing it just got annoying: Opith, Opith, Oputh, O-peth. Then she's saying she's a huge fan and she doesn't even know about [U]Lamentations[/U]? Seriously got trapped in her own lies, another Juliya-esque faux metal chick. Just get someone in there who actually enjoys the music regardless of radio personality, seeing as how not much is needed other than saying the station's name everytime they go to or return from a commercial break.[/QUOTE]

It actually is pronounced Opith, my one friend met them after a show and asked Akerfeldt, but yes, not knowing Lamentations = hilarious.

Shred Danson 10-20-2005 12:04 PM

[QUOTE]It actually is pronounced Opith,[/QUOTE]

Hmm..I did not know that. Damn, I hate words that aren't pronounced the way they're spelt.

The Brad 10-20-2005 12:04 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]It actually is pronounced Opith, my one friend met them after a show and asked Akerfeldt, but yes, not knowing Lamentations = hilarious.[/QUOTE]
Did you listen to the interview? She just went on this little rant on how she didn't know how to say the name and spent like a minute saying it different ways and then everytime after that when she said the band's name she would say it like three times because they were laughing at her for the way she pronounced it. It was just kind of odd, bad interview in my opinion. She didn't even really ask any interesting questions. [B]Jackie lacks gravitas.[/B] :lol:

I find your friends anecdote a little weird too because during the interview Mikael said it was a fictious name and they didn't even truly know how to pronounce it so you can say it anyway you wish. I know it's based off the city of the moon (Opet) and all that, I just figured after 13 years they would have a preference. Perhaps they don't even care anymore. :p

The Brad 10-20-2005 12:06 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]Hmm..I did not know that. Damn, I hate words that aren't pronounced the way they're spelt.[/QUOTE]
Phonetically?

Shred Danson 10-20-2005 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=The Brad]Phonetically?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, sure...

:confused: :lol:

i am the robots 10-20-2005 12:27 PM

Owned Trevor, owned.

I always had trouble with Akerfeldt's name, I always said ack-er-felt, but it's actually oak-er-felt.

Shred Danson 10-20-2005 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Owned Trevor, owned.[/QUOTE]

Suck my balls, Matt. Suck my balls.

And listen to "Demon of The Fall" (keeps it relevant) :lol:

Toaster 10-20-2005 01:07 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]It actually is pronounced Opith, my one friend met them after a show and asked Akerfeldt, but yes, not knowing Lamentations = hilarious.[/QUOTE]

Isn't it just OH peh th? I've also heard oh PETH. Never Oh pith, though.

Shadows 10-20-2005 01:38 PM

Somehow I really doubt it's pronounced "Opith".

Jude 10-20-2005 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]Isn't it just OH peh th? I've also heard oh PETH. Never Oh pith, though.[/QUOTE]
I've never heard any of the band members say it, but I've heard Steven Wilson mention it in plenty of interviews and he knows and works with the band a lot, and he says it that way. So I think that's a safe guess.

Darkness 10-20-2005 04:08 PM

Its O PETH guys, come on, watch any live show of the band and Mikeal says "We are OPETH...", not Opith. At an Audioslave gig a few weeks ago, me and my bassist were walking through one of the hallways, him wearing his Opeth shirt, and some girls like "DUDE OPITH ROCKS!!" and he almost turned around to scream at her.. I had to convince him not to. :p

matt4 10-20-2005 04:47 PM

First of all, to ElectricalStorm: AWESOME interpretation dude. I'd love for you to post an interpretation of the whole MAYH album because I just plain don't get it. I mean, the basics are obvious: a man dies and has to watch his lover forget him. But what the heck is the Demon of the Fall? What's it got to do with anything? Who is running away? The lover? Why? I just plain don't get it. I have my own ideas, but I'm sure they're pretty off. ElectricalStorm or anyone else, wtf is up with this story? :)

Anyhoo, it's most definitely pronounced "O-pEth" like in the word "pet". Just watch Lamentations! That's how he said it at sounds of the underground, too.

And I am glad to hear that Opeth didn't like the bands on SotU, because when they were in Atlanta, Mikael stood on stage and smilled and sorta bobbed to Clutch: the absolute worst band ever! Towards the end, Mikael was obviously getting bored. He had a beer in his hand, so maybe he was a little tipsy. Just glad to know they didn't HONESTLY like Clutch. LoG was cool. And the only band Lamb of God mentioned was Opeth. Everyone in Atlanta was absolutely floored when Opeth played. They had never heard of them, but Opeth was the reason I was even THERE!!!!! Holy jeeze, I can't wait 'till Nov. 8! Opeth in all their glory! No 30 min sets there! :)

On a side note: I'm really thinking of getting a CD sized Opeth "O" tattood on my back. It'll be my first (and only) tattoo. Thoughts, everyone?

Shadows 10-20-2005 04:50 PM

If it's the intricate Opeth signature "O", go for it. I love the way it looks. :)


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