As with every genre of music the term Psychedelic can be used with just about any band, Outkast is Psychedelic on a few albums, The Monkees have some songs, same with Led Zeppelin its all a matter of opinion on which band is considered Psychedelic. But the most common things about it that I see is: A common theme usually about dreams, trips, idea's or views that can seem outrageous; Usually long songs with lots of stuff happening, long solos, random solos, feedback, distortion etc...
As to your list Schyma? I'm sorry to say but in my view that is very biased, your list is based on personal preference, am I right? Well I'm not sure I said this but his list was more of a definitive/influential list. I know there is no way PATGD is more influential then [I]Revolver [/I]or [I]Pet Sounds[/I], while typically, Wish You Were Here is a common influence in many bands rarely have [I]I[/I] heard a band site PATGD as an influence rather then WYWH.
And Os Mutantes S/T on your list? They have better albums in my opinion (Hypocrite!). [I]Are You Experienced[/I] is much more Psychedelic then [I]Electric Lady Land[/I] one could argue as if that was a true Psychedelic album or not.
But I think the first 3 albums on the list I mentioned were very accurate, but after that it gets a little blurred and slightly wrong.

I would write more but Conan is on soon and I still haven't made my regular MX rounds!

/slams head against wall

Ugh, Rolling Stones a single's band? Please... seriously maybe you don't like them for whatever reason but calling them a single's band is like calling the Beatles a pop band or calling The Doors a one hit wonder. Its just stupid.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]

Ugh, Rolling Stones a single band? Please...[/QUOTE]

I think their albums are just full of filler-songs, and their singles were their best songs.

[QUOTE=The Krabsman]I think their albums are just full of filler, and I their singles were their best songs.[/QUOTE]
i think YOURE full of filler.

in all honesty though, i semi-agree with you. i read somewhere that the stones took a shotgun approach to music. they released a cloud of albums, hoping one would hit.

I'm suprised nobody said anything about the Brad Paisley one...

[QUOTE=The Krabsman]I think their albums are just full of filler-songs, and [B]their singles were their best songs.[/B][/QUOTE]
Wow, imagine that!

Aren't most singles the best songs, generally speaking?
(Yes.)

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Wow, imagine that!

Aren't most singles the best songs, generally speaking?
(Yes.)[/QUOTE]

Yeah. While albums are just as good, the Rolling Stones just didn't pull that off.

how was your guys' thanksgivings by the way? mine was good, minus the laptop incident.

[QUOTE=The Krabsman]Yeah. While albums are just as good, the Rolling Stones just didn't pull that off.[/QUOTE]
Wow. Hm, ya. Okay, whatever you say chopper.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Thanksgiving is my least favorite holiday the whole eating thing is just dumb. My family always makes a huge meal and everyone eats until they feel sick and then get grumpy and leave. I hardly ever eat alot. I only had like a plate of food and 3/4 of it was Mash Potatoes.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Wow. Hm, ya. Okay, whatever you say chopper.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Thanksgiving is my least favorite holiday the whole eating thing is just dumb. My family always makes a huge meal and everyone eats until they feel sick and then get grumpy and leave. I hardly ever eat alot. I only had like a plate of food and 3/4 of it was Mash Potatoes.[/QUOTE]
Heh. Mash Potatoes.

I thought it was Mashed Potatoes :x

It was good I guess.

I had a good turkey, some mac and cheese, and some mashed potaters.

mashed potatoes are delicious.

when i was about 8 or maybe 12, my mother asked what i wanted for my birthday and all i asked for was an entire meal consisting of different forms of potatoes. french fries, mashed potatoes, baked potatoes, hash browns, etc.

i didnt get it. :(

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]i think YOURE full of filler.

in all honesty though, i semi-agree with you. i read somewhere that the stones took a shotgun approach to music. they released a cloud of albums, hoping one would hit.[/QUOTE]

[I]That[/I] is why I'm so reluctant to buy Stones albums: I have no idea what I might be getting. With The Who or Neil Young, You're always guaranteed some good material. (minus [I]Trans[/I] and [I]Everybody's Rockin' [/I]for Young, which I heard were HORRIBLE albums)

I've been listening to "Truth" atleast once a day for the past 3-4 days. I'm obsessed. Rod's voice fits it so well.

I enjoyed my Thanksgiving even though it could have been much better.

The Rolling Stones' singles/best known songs ARE their best songs, there's no way we can circumvent that; they have a few hidden gems, but for the most part you can find their best songs on Hot Rocks or 40 Licks.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]What! JESSICA SIMPSON AND NICK LACHEY (whateva!) ARE BREAKING UP. Thats sad.... :upset:[/QUOTE]
if those two kids cant stay together, what kind of chance does anyone have?

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Well your acting as if they are a s[SIZE="2"]hi[/SIZE]t band and their albums are just hacksawed together.. I would ask you what you've heard but I have a feeling you'd pull a "Everything, I own all their albums and they all suck" I dunno, you just seem like the type to do that.[/QUOTE]


No, there are a few I like, I think it was Sticky Fingers, but alot of their other albums are just drony rhythm and blues songs.

Eh, what "blues" songs did they do?

Van Halen makes me want to jump out of a 12 story window and Fresh Cream I haven't listened to but if it's anything like other Cream albums it's probablly extremly meh. Other than that pretty nice choices.

Bell Bottom Blues > everything Eric Clapton has recorded (which isn't saying much)
[QUOTE]Are You Experienced is much more Psychedelic then Electric Lady Land[/QUOTE][I]Are You Experienced?[/I] can barley qualify as psychedelic. Electric Ladyland is extremly psychedelic IMO.[QUOTE]As to your list Schyma? I'm sorry to say but in my view that is very biased, your list is based on personal preference, am I right? Well I'm not sure I said this but his list was more of a definitive/influential list. I know there is no way PATGD is more influential then Revolver or Pet Sounds, while typically, Wish You Were Here is a common influence in many bands rarely have I heard a band site PATGD as an influence rather then WYWH.[/QUOTE]Well WYWH isn't even psychedelia so you just shot yourself in the foot with that argument. PATGOD is the most definitive form of Psychedelia there is and I've told this thread why many times before but if I have to I'll do it again. So shall I do it again? Even without my bias for PATGOD, I still think PATGOD truly wins that title of most definitive Psychedelic album and I'm sure most of the regulars agree.
[QUOTE]And Os Mutantes S/T on your list? They have better albums in my opinion (Hypocrite!). [/QUOTE]What are you trying to say here?

I think you overreacted a little Jacaranda. I agree that The Rolling Stones shouldn't be labeled as a Singles band, but not everyone likes a band for the same reasons. He definitely wasn't calling them a **** band, or else he wouldn't have included them in his top 5 list.

Btw, Mr. Krabsman really seems to have been put on the stand tonight...what's up with that? Come on people, can't we all just get along?:)

[QUOTE]I still think PATGOD truly wins that title of most definitive Psychedelic album and I'm sure most of the regulars agree.[/QUOTE]

Seeing as how PATGOD is one of few truly psychadelic albums I own/have listened to, I'm going to have to agree with that, more out of a lack of experience than anything, but still.

Well, goodnight everyone.

I never really listen to full Stones albums. Jaggers voice gets to me after awhile. I liked Exile or Let It Bleed. I like listening to Exile all the way through, but the rest :\

Schyma: "Fresh Cream" isn't meh. :)

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]I think you overreacted a little Jacaranda. I agree that The Rolling Stones shouldn't be labeled as a Singles band, but not everyone likes a band for the same reasons. He definitely wasn't calling them a **** band, or else he wouldn't have included them in his top 5 list.

Btw, Mr. Krabsman really seems to have been put on the stand tonight...what's up with that? Come on people, can't we all just get along?:)[/QUOTE]
Eh, fanboyism. But getting called a singles band isn't exactly a complement.

And the (Hypocrite!) was to me calling me that because I was basing that off of personal preferance. And again Psychedelic is a matter of opinion, so WYWH is argueable. Just to make it clear I think PATGD is a top 10 album... and by that I mean 10 or 9.

As you said for yourself that list is "definitive/influential" and well PATGOD is thought by many to be truly the most definitive psychedelia album there is. So couldn't PATGOD be #1? I had a real hard time not putting Pet Sounds on there but I'm just skeptical as to if it's Psychedelia or not. It'd easily make top 5 if I did consider it psychedelic though.
[QUOTE]And Os Mutantes S/T on your list? They have better albums in my opinion [/QUOTE]I meant what do you mean by the Os Mutantes have "better albums"?

Well Sloop John B he did make one line into a drug reference so technically going by my Psychedelic definition it is. But I consider it one because most of the songs were written about how he was feeling at the time when he was doing speed and all sorts of other drugs constantly. (He being Brian Wilson).
Psychedelic isn't just made up of the stereotypical view of it, were its really "trippy" some albums e.g. [I]Pet Sounds[/I] are more about lyrics and views being expressed.
As for being number one I still think Revolver is because well it was the first album to break out from the mainstream that had the whole Psychedelic feel to it, could you even imagine the impact that must of had on culture? Here we have the Beatles, who could be Mom and Dads favorite band then all the sudden they are singing about acid trips and bad trips and they are instantly turned into a "rebel" group, they set the standard not to mention the Beatles were the first band to endorse (So to speak) drugs, saying that they aren't that bad for you, they don't make you go crazy, they don't make you lose your sex drive, and they don't make you a sex maniac.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Eh, fanboyism. But getting called a singles band isn't exactly a complement.

And the (Hypocrite!) was to me calling me that because I was basing that off of personal preferance. And again Psychedelic is a matter of opinion, so WYWH is argueable. Just to make it clear I think PATGD is a top 10 album... and by that I mean 10 or 9.[/QUOTE]

Ya it's definitely not a compliment, but really, do the Rolling Stones really need anyone to defend them after all these years?;)

Yea, yea, yea but about my argument for PATGOD or my Os Mutantes question? The lyrics in [I]Pet Sounds[/I] don't really qualify as Psychedelic at all IMO. (btw)

[QUOTE=Schyma]Yea, yea, yea but about my argument for PATGOD or my Os Mutantes question? The lyrics in [I]Pet Sounds[/I] don't really qualify as Psychedelic at all IMO. (btw)[/QUOTE]
Scratch the Os Mutantes comment I got my albums mixed around.

I'm uploading "Black Pearls". It'll be a new artist for most of you :)

It's excellent.

OK, I can see where you'e coming from Jac, I love the album too and I consider it to be the first Psychedelic album ever and it was influential as hell but it's sound doesn't come near as definitive as PATGOD which is more important IMO. To each as own I guess. That list really sucked though. :p

Van Halen makes me laugh a lot. I love them, simply because they're so cheesy. Until David Lee Roth left. Then they started taking themselves seriously, and it all just went to hell.