Judging musical value solely on vocals ftw

np Converge - Thaw

no i judging thembased solely on vocals, they have amazing music and they make some verrry intense music. and i love intensity. just after a while the vocals get on my nerves but i seem to be liking them the more i continue to listen.

I don't really care for their vocals either. They tend to get annoying after awhile.

Converge don't have excellent vocals, still doesn't detract from them bein excellent.

np Poison The Well - Slice Paper Wrists

classic metalcore song if there ever was one :)

i know like i said im liking em more, the more i listen to them, i love poison the well YCBY is an amazing album i dont have thier new one yet.

It's alot different then their older stuff. I don't like it as much as the other stuff.

yeah...thats what ive heard from a few different people, i think i might still check it out

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781631]just got Starkweather album for 10 bucks yesterday

sweet deal[/QUOTE]

Which?

[QUOTE=bunit9488;15781644]who?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.myspace.com/starkweather666[/url]

edit : Cocaine, it was Croatoan

[QUOTE=bunit9488;15781699]yeah...thats what ive heard from a few different people, i think i might still check it out[/QUOTE]

Yah, totally, check it out. I'm just saying it's alot different.

they sound pretty damn good you say the album is pretty good?

It's pretty good, it's just different. I personally liked the older stuff better, but it's still good. How could PTW not be good?

well, Tear From The Red sucked for start

i dont think they could not be good. but like you said, the new album is different but ill check it out anyway.

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781741]well, Tear From The Red sucked for start[/QUOTE]

i disagree greatly

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781741]well, Tear From The Red sucked for start[/QUOTE]

Tear From The Red is great, tbh.

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781741]well, Tear From The Red sucked for start[/QUOTE]

It's their worst album. It had like 2 good songs on it. The rest were average.

TOOD > YCBY > Versions > TFTR

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781741]well, Tear From The Red sucked for start[/QUOTE]

I'm going to have to disagree too. I think Versions was the worst.

Versions was miles ahead of Tear From The Red.

Versions was terrible. They ruined a bunch of songs that they had better versions of (I think that's where they got the name, unfortunately they went with the gay versions).

Hopesfall just broke-up. :/

I honestly don't think so. Versions was too... I don't know. Progressive(that's probably a bad choice of words) for me.

It wasn't progressive. It was just different. That's what made it appealing. TFTR was like a trash Opposite Of December.

Too different. Why change what works for you? Make it a little different so your not repetitive, but don't become something totally different.

[QUOTE=bunit9488;15781554]im the kind of music listener that i need a LOT of variation on all sides of the music, and IN MY OPINION (please no one get butt hurt) i feel the vocals sound the same in every single song. I get bored with them quickly. again thats just my opinion. but i am giving them a chance i am listening to thier stuff and making my judgements based on that
i will say i like them a lot more now, then when i first heard them.[/QUOTE]

If you really can't get into them then don't try and force yourself to like them... wait, scratch that, LIKE CONVERGE DAMN YOU.

I want my Architects t-shirt already. :/

Poison the Well rules... I only have TOOD, but Nerdy is such a great song.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15781775]

Hopesfall just broke-up. :/[/QUOTE]

finally

they should've broken up after A Types.

[QUOTE=Concubine;15781702][url]http://www.myspace.com/starkweather666[/url]

edit : Cocaine, it was Croatoan[/QUOTE]

that's a solid album. when i first got it, i wasn't really feeling it. then i put it back on a few months later and it punched me in the balls repeatedly.

[QUOTE=Hbp;15781786]It wasn't progressive. It was just different. That's what made it appealing. TFTR was like a trash Opposite Of December.[/QUOTE]

Opposite Of December is ****ing mediocre at best. The only ****ing reason you like that album is because RetiredAt21 likes it, shut the **** up already.

Seriously, Poison The Well's vocals on their first album are so laughable, and the music is so damn generic and boring, I'm so tired of them getting **** just because their music actually started sounding good.

[QUOTE=existanceisfutile;15781820]If you really can't get into them then don't try and force yourself to like them... wait, scratch that, LIKE CONVERGE DAMN YOU.

I want my Architects t-shirt already. :/[/QUOTE]

im not forcing myself, im just giving them a chance, im sure ill come around, im already liking them more than when i first heard them.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15781870]that's a solid album. when i first got it, i wasn't really feeling it. then i put it back on a few months later and it punched me in the balls repeatedly.[/QUOTE]

Definitely

It took me a while to "get" it. It's a grower

where did you find thier album?

are you referring to the Starkweather album i bought?

yeah, i cant find much on them other than the myspace.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15782029]Opposite Of December is ****ing mediocre at best. The only ****ing reason you like that album is because RetiredAt21 likes it, shut the **** up already.

Seriously, Poison The Well's vocals on their first album are so laughable, and the music is so damn generic and boring, I'm so tired of them getting **** just because their music actually started sounding good.[/QUOTE]

I had that album before I posted on the forums dumbass. TOOD is amazing. It completly kills TFTR in every way, not to mention, the vocals are exactly the same as TOOD, just with better production. Stop talking out of your a[size=2]s[/size]s.

well, i got it from a local record store.

give me your myspace or something, i'll send you a link

to : bunit9488

its on my profile but its myspace.com/bb_inflames
if you could send me a link thatd be suuuuuuper
thanks

[QUOTE=Hbp;15782324]I had that album before I posted on the forums dumbass. TOOD is amazing. It completly kills TFTR in every way, not to mention, the vocals are exactly the same as TOOD, just with better production. Stop talking out of your a[size=2]s[/size]s.[/QUOTE]

Do you know anything about singing or screaming whatsoever? The vocals are much throatier and less voice cracky on their later material, whereas they sounded like a terrible Hopesfall imitation on the earlier material. Not to mention, the clean singing on the first two albums just sounds terrible.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15782029]Opposite Of December is ****ing mediocre at best. The only ****ing reason you like that album is because RetiredAt21 likes it, shut the **** up already.

Seriously, Poison The Well's vocals on their first album are so laughable, and the music is so damn generic and boring, I'm so tired of them getting **** just because their music actually started sounding good.[/QUOTE]

Tear from the Red seems pretty half-assed tbh.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15782372]Do you know anything about singing or screaming whatsoever? The vocals are much throatier and less voice cracky on their later material, whereas they sounded like a terrible Hopesfall imitation on the earlier material. Not to mention, the clean singing on the first two albums just sounds terrible.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that probably their greatest influence, huh?

[QUOTE=masscows;15782497]Tear from the Red seems pretty half-assed tbh.[/QUOTE]
I really enjoy it, idk.
[quote=Hbp]Yeah, that probably their greatest influence, huh?[/quote]
I don't know or care, that's completely irrelevant.