I think the a customs are brighter for the mastersounds, although I now miss my a mastersounds :(

Going into my local music store to check out some cymbals next week.


Im looking for a crashable ride, 20" preferably. Any suggestions?

20" K Crash-Ride

[quote=Muad_Dib;16786379]

I also was wondering what section would be best for questions about drum mics?[/quote]

i'd use the search feature first, if it's working. there have been numerous threads on the subject. there's a member on here named chippy who seems to know quite a bit on the subject. you can find his answers in a lot of old threads.

if you can't find what you're looking for or the search feature isn't working (happens often) the post the thread in the gear and media section.

my new babies

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Very nice choices

Just sold two of my cymbals today. In the next few weeks Ill be changing over the majority of my cymbals (including prototypes) for some new stock. My sponsorship with Sabian Australia encourages me to keep bringing newer models into my setup.

Just sold an 18" HHX Stage and 19" HHXplosion crash and added 16 & 18 Evolution crashes.

Its good having new gear!

18" Classic Crash = :thumb:

Probably my favorite crash right now.

Recommend me a very dark crash that can take more of a beating than Sabian Evolutions.

Question for Jezen; where can I get a [FONT=Verdana]Zildaisteabian 66" Heavy Gospel Ride?[/FONT]

Preparing to leave Sabian and become a Paiste artist...

What do you think of my choices:

14 New Signature Dark Energy Hats
17 Signature Reflector Heavy Full Crash
20 New Signature Dark Metal Ride
18 Signature Full Crash

The hats and the ride look soooo sick.

The new sigs wouldnt be my first choices but yeah they look like good picks

[QUOTE=oliv_da_skinmasher;16912341]The new sigs wouldnt be my first choices but yeah they look like good picks[/QUOTE]

Why is that?

I liked the Dark Energy hats because they reminded me of my Sabian favorites, the HHX Power hats.

And my mistake, the Dark Metal Ride is Signature, not New Sig.

They just wouldn't have been my first choice. Theres hats I prefer over the new sigs thats all

[quote=sleepless;16912115]Preparing to leave Sabian and become a Paiste artist...

What do you think of my choices:

14 New Signature Dark Energy Hats
17 Signature Reflector Heavy Full Crash
20 New Signature Dark Metal Ride
18 Signature Full Crash

The hats and the ride look soooo sick.[/quote]
sig full and mellow cashes are so freaking beautiful sounding. i love those things, but they're so damn pricey.

dark energy hats are nice. i own a pair of hhx power hats (my favorite as well) so they would make a nice piaste replacement. however, i would probably go with something more crisp. if i were to go with piaste, i'd being using full and mellow crashes, so i'd want something to compliment the overall sound.

i''ve never played that ride or any of the reflector series.

[QUOTE=sleepless;16912115]Preparing to leave Sabian and become a Paiste artist...

What do you think of my choices:

14 New Signature Dark Energy Hats
17 Signature Reflector Heavy Full Crash
20 New Signature Dark Metal Ride
18 Signature Full Crash

The hats and the ride look soooo sick.[/QUOTE]

A Dark Metal ride with dark energy hats?

Couldn't really be further apart in sound/volume.

That dark metal ride will be LOUD and one dimensional.

And those new signatures are nothing like HHX Power Hats :S

They sound a lot a like, actually. They might not be the same in weight and profile.

Have you played each of these in person, or are these merely educated suppositions? No offense intended of course, just curious.

I haven't heard the ride in person, unfortunately.

And yeah, Sigs are expensive but I'm getting everything at about cost +shipping.

well, i've never played or heard those dark energy hats in person, but based off the sound clip they do indeed sound similar to hhx power hats.

i've been told that paiste's sound clips are pretty accurate and from what i can tell from their full and mellow crashes, the sound clips do indeed give you a good bases to go off of.

[QUOTE=raz0r;16914223]A Dark Metal ride with dark energy hats?

Couldn't really be further apart in sound/volume.

That dark metal ride will be LOUD and one dimensional.

And those new signatures are nothing like HHX Power Hats :S[/QUOTE]

dark metal isn't a metal genre ride like a z custom or anything.
it's a different kind of metal than they use on their normal rides i'm pretty sure.

[QUOTE=Mirror.Circuit;16981160]dark metal isn't a metal genre ride like a z custom or anything.
it's a different kind of metal than they use on their normal rides i'm pretty sure.[/QUOTE]

It's not 'officially' a metal ride but it plays exactly like one.
I think the dark colour is just a visual thing, I don't [B]think[/B] it affects the sound.

Just because the sound clips sound the same, it doesn't mean the cymbals will play the same.
They might sound the same at one volume, but completely different at another.

Hey guys, I'm looking for an 18" crash that will contrast well with my Xs20 Med-thin 16". Preferably something a little darker, but with great resonance, that can be ridden a little. I'll look at any company, but my price range is about $200-$300. Preferably lower, though I can look on Ebay or something. Thanks!

18" AAXplosion or 19"

18" K Crash-Ride

For anyone wanting to know what the Pitch Black cymbals from Zildjian sound like

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_4YRG-Z-1k[/url]

uh oh travis is doing drugs.

Maybe its the video, but those crashes sounded muted as hell.

Its the video, because you really can't tell how shitty they sound.

Can anybody suggest a good maker of congas?

Toca or Meinl are good places to start if you don't have deep pockets.
Gon Bops if you do.

[QUOTE=Artyr;16992162]Hey guys, I'm looking for an 18" crash that will contrast well with my Xs20 Med-thin 16". Preferably something a little darker, but with great resonance, that can be ridden a little. I'll look at any company, but my price range is about $200-$300. Preferably lower, though I can look on Ebay or something. Thanks![/QUOTE]

paiste 18 in fast crash

I need a new pair of hats, I play mostly rock but i like a good dark, warm sound to em. I really like the hhx stage line for my ride and cymbals, but haven't heard the hats yet. Any other cymbals that you think fit the bill? Thanks for any help.

k's are dark and warm

true, though my concern with most k's is that they are too dry/not versatile enough for rock. Any more rock oriented k's? i dunno.

[QUOTE=AdictAddict;17084545]true, though [b]my concern with most k's is that they are too dry/not versatile enough for rock[/b]. Any more rock oriented k's? i dunno.[/QUOTE]

Rick Allen
[url]http://www.zildjian.com/en-US/products/configurator/default.ad2?artistID=2587[/url]

Jason Bonham
[url]http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/artists/artistDetail.ad2?artistID=2673[/url]

Mike Bordin
[url]http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/artists/artistDetail.ad2?artistID=1037[/url]

Riley Breckenridge
[url]http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/artists/artistDetail.ad2?artistID=2721[/url]

Dave Buckner
[url]http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/artists/artistDetail.ad2?artistID=1049[/url]

Gavin Harrison
[url]http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/artists/artistDetail.ad2?artistID=2858[/url]

Jeff Plate
[url]http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/artists/artistDetail.ad2?artistID=3078[/url]

Gil Sharone
[url]http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/artists/artistDetail.ad2?artistID=3042[/url]


Anything else?

Don't forget Zak Starkey.
He uses 20" K Crash/Rides for his crashes.

[QUOTE=AdictAddict;17084505]I need a new pair of hats, I play mostly rock but i like a good dark, warm sound to em. I really like the hhx stage line for my ride and cymbals, but haven't heard the hats yet. Any other cymbals that you think fit the bill? Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]

Check out 15" Istanbul Agop Sultan series. 14"s if you don't want to go as big as 15s. Sound even better than they look!

[IMG]http://www.heartbeatpercussion.com/images/Sultan-hats-200.jpg[/IMG]

I'm looking for a good all around crash and ride set that is fairly affordable. A 14-16 inch crash and 20 inch ride are preferable...any help would be appreciated.

What do you mean by "affordable"?

There's no sense in buying something less than a good Zildjian or Sabian or the like, unless you've currently got nothing and just need something to hit. If you buy less, you're just going to want the real thing later anyway.

There are some brands that are passable, but less expensive than the above mentioned...these include Dream Bliss, Wuhan, Saluda. Still though, their sound is not for everyone, and usually are not well suited to rock styles.

I'd say stick with Zildjain A's or A customs for good all-purpose cymbals. Save up if you haven't got the cash now.

Yeah I really recommend Zildjian A or Sabian AA, some of the best cymbals ever made, and oddly enough, the least expensive of the pro lines. Paiste 2002 is probably my favorite overall, but you're spending a lot more money there.

[QUOTE=Emim;17127473]I'm looking for a good all around crash and ride set that is fairly affordable. A 14-16 inch crash and 20 inch ride are preferable...any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

I saw the new Xist series from Istanbul at NAMM this year. Comes in a boxed set of 14 hats, 16 crash, 20 ride, plus they were saying that an 18" crash and a bag would be included at no charge. The prices were lower than the other hand made hand hammered sets from Istanbul and Alchemy, but were still hand hammered and availalbe in either traditional finish or brilliant. Sounded really good! Might not be available yet though. The Sultan series (like the pic I posted the other day) is also available in a boxed set and I know it works out better than buying the cymbals individually, plus there is a decent bag included too.