[quote=Sameasskicker;13940781]Okay, i need the best cymbals for playing both latin and metal but not TOO expensive[/quote]
Zildjian As Medium-Thins.

what's your guys' opinion on the 6.5" zil bell? I want a seperate bell that's high pitched, loud, but [B]not[/B] too loud as so to pierce your ears. My sweet ride's bell just doesn't cut it...

Should be about perfect.

Its high pitched and cutting enough to be heard.

Mucho thanks drum phil:)

It's only 6", just to let you know in case that changes your mind at all...

UFiPs Ice-bell's are where it's at. Complete glassiness.

ok how heavy are medium crashes? are they hard to move? i was thinkin of gettin either a medium crashes or aa medium crashes. which are better?

I'd go with an A Custom Crash, they are a pretty good weight for anyone.

[QUOTE=Jeff;13956186]ok how heavy are medium crashes? are they hard to move? i was thinkin of gettin either a medium crashes or aa medium crashes. which are better?[/QUOTE]

I have an 18" AA Medium Crash and it kicks ultimate ***, my favorite crash on my lineup.

what other cymbals do you have? oh adn you really didnt answer any of my questions yet :-|

I have 20" Medium Crash and it takes abit to get going. Probably more of a ride weight tbh. 18" and under mediums are great weight for rock and heavy music.

[QUOTE=Jeff;13956312]what other cymbals do you have? oh adn you really didnt answer any of my questions yet :-|[/QUOTE]

my other crash is an 18" 2002 Crash, and I did have a 14" Agop crash but I sold that.

If you are used to playing on thins like me when I bought this cymbal, it'll seem heavy at first, but you'll get used to it.

[QUOTE=Aaron;13956412]I have 20" Medium Crash [B]and it takes abit to get going.[/B][/QUOTE]

Uh, yeah... when you hit like pansy.

[QUOTE=Aaron;13957954]Sorry, I don't play with aheads and 6' high crashes like you Coca.[/QUOTE]

LOL what a blind assumption. I [I]don't[/I] play with Aheads and my crashes [I]aren't[/I] 6' high. You're an idiot.

To really open up a 20" medium crash you need to do something called a [B]fullstroke[/B]. Take the time and learn it someday.

Remember, "[B]fullstroke[/B]."

[QUOTE=drummguy731;13954219]It's only 6", just to let you know in case that changes your mind at all...[/QUOTE]

totally knew that!!!!


[QUOTE=Aaron;13955382]UFiPs Ice-bell's are where it's at. Complete glassiness.[/QUOTE]


do you know where I can get sound clips? I don't think that I have any shops around me that sells UFiP items.


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[quote=Cocaberry;13957982]Remember, "[B]fullstroke[/B]."[/quote]

Did you learn that when them dudes made you their bitch?

"Rape him with nice full strokes boys"

coco is right though...

I agree with aaron. They take more to get going and i dislike that sound personally.

I like thinner cymbals where i can quickly flick them for an accent.

Full strokes have their down points.

they do phil? plz explain.

Coca and Aaron, stop arguing, seriously, it's childish to say he hits like a pansy, and you are also making a blind assumption yourself Coca. Geez, anyway, medium and heavier crashes will open up slower than a thinner cymbal, they are meant to.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;13959525]I agree with aaron. They take more to get going and i dislike that sound personally.

I like thinner cymbals where i can quickly flick them for an accent.

Full strokes have their down points.[/QUOTE]

Smaller, thinner cymbals FTW! :thumb:

[quote=Jeff;13963661]they do phil? plz explain.[/quote]

Theres a point when speed and full strokes dont mix well. They results in bad technique.

You cannot accent with fullstrokes.

Anyone who uses fullstrokes on a thin splash shouldnt be allowed near them.

I was just wondering, what's the difference between a traditional finished cymbal and brilliant finished cymbal? (sound-wise)

Umm, I think traditional finished cymbals tend to be brighter, it may be the other way around though.

brillient - Bright, glassy
Trad - Not as bright

What do you guys prefer?? So trad is darker? Damn... I love the look of brilliant finish'd cymbals, but i don't like bright cymbals, i like them dark. Is it a noticable difference? ( in the sound )

What would a Dark crash sound like, in brilliant finish?? o__O;;
I saw an AAX 18" Dark Crash in brilliant finish... What would it sound like? Would the brillian finish kill the "darkness" in the crash?

anyone wanna help me out?? :(

No, it wouldn't kill the darkness, it'd just mellow it out a bit.