[QUOTE=funkyhoney;17423726]I meant double thumbing as in just using your thumb on the down and upstroke like you would a pick, none of the other clicky bullpoop.

And suppose you don't want the tone of a pick?[/QUOTE]

Well I think that's what he was implying when he said there are many situations where a pick would be more suitable. As in, you want the pick tone.

As far as your point (which I'm assuming is "going fast") I can go as fast as I need to with my fingers; nearly as fast as I can with a pick, and I don't think anyone can double thumb that fast and make it sound even and listenable. At least, I've yet to see it.

Point is, only reason I'd use a pick is for the tone, because I prefer playing with my fingers.

then you turn the tone knob down/roll off the highs?

[QUOTE=honeydutchautopsy;17423742]Well I think that's what he was implying when he said there are many situations where a pick would be more suitable. As in, you want the pick tone.

As far as your point (which I'm assuming is "going fast") I can go as fast as I need to with my fingers; nearly as fast as I can with a pick, and I don't think anyone can double thumb that fast and make it sound even and listenable. At least, I've yet to see it.

Point is, only reason I'd use a pick is for the tone, because I prefer playing with my fingers.[/QUOTE]

The only reason I'd use a pick is because if I don't on certain songs my arm can cramp.

I use a pick less than 1% of the time, in fact I've never voluntarily chosen to play with one. But I will play with one for the sake of learning more about another technique and because it's good for the brain to do different things. As for the sound of a pick, I've never been into it and would only use one if I was explicitly trying to copy the sound of a recording in which someone had played with a pick. I don't believe picks hold any speed advantage over a well developed finger technique, but I don't believe there's anything wrong with using them either.

[QUOTE=gaslight;17423918]I use a pick less than 1% of the time, in fact I've never voluntarily chosen to play with one. But I will play with one for the sake of learning more about another technique and because it's good for the brain to do different things. As for the sound of a pick, I've never been into it and would only use one if I was explicitly trying to copy the sound of a recording in which someone had played with a pick. I don't believe picks hold any speed advantage over a well developed finger technique, but I don't believe there's anything wrong with using them either.[/QUOTE]
Lol this basically. Cept I play with a pick a lot in a band situation and some recordings.

The sound of a pick can be a great thing if you know what you're doing.


Sometimes I hear bassists who play fingerstyle (poorly) who are all click and no bass(if you know what I mean) and I just wanna shove a pick down their throat.

[QUOTE=gaslight;17423918]I use a pick less than 1% of the time, in fact I've never voluntarily chosen to play with one. But I will play with one for the sake of learning more about another technique and because it's good for the brain to do different things. As for the sound of a pick, I've never been into it and would only use one if I was explicitly trying to copy the sound of a recording in which someone had played with a pick. I don't believe picks hold any speed advantage over a well developed finger technique, but I don't believe there's anything wrong with using them either.[/QUOTE]

I dunno about that, I can understand why *some* metal players and such use them. As far as the speed topic goes, anyway.

Tonally I think it works well in a punk or metal/hard rock setting but still, me personally, I'd prefer to at least try and develop a finger tone first.

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;17423942]Lol this basically. Cept I play with a pick a lot in a band situation and some recordings.

The sound of a pick can be a great thing if you know what you're doing.


Sometimes I hear bassists who play fingerstyle (poorly) who are all click and no bass(if you know what I mean) and I just wanna shove a pick down their throat.[/QUOTE]

You mean they have uber low action and dig in trying to get a punchy tone?

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;17423951]You mean they have uber low action and dig in trying to get a punchy tone?[/QUOTE]
Lol that probably partially contributes to it. But in the example I'm thinking he of it was more a case of they were tuned to Drop C# and I don't think his strings were a very large gauge. That, and poor technique:lol:

He was one of the guys who has this huge 1000watt Warwick rig(with a 6x10 cab) and couldn't play very well. Makes me lol.

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;17423973]Lol that probably partially contributes to it. But in the example I'm thinking he of it was more a case of they were tuned to Drop C# and I don't think his strings were a very large gauge. That, and poor technique:lol:

He was one of the guys who has this huge 1000watt Warwick rig(with a 6x10 cab) and couldn't play very well. Makes me lol.[/QUOTE]

That's like the band I went to check out last night, we were considering asking them to do support with us, but after hearing them live; no.

The guitarist I know reasonably well but he think because he's got his 5 different expensive guitars he switches on every song and his expensive amp he's some kind of genius player. He's not "bad" by any means, but it makes it difficult to scrape up any respect for him.

Gear doesn't make good musicians. It's like an expensive car, doesn't make you a good driver but it can help you more easily demonstrate your skill.

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;17423985]That's like the band I went to check out last night, we were considering asking them to do support with us, but after hearing them live; no.

The guitarist I know reasonably well but he think because he's got his 5 different expensive guitars he switches on every song and his expensive amp he's some kind of genius player. He's not "bad" by any means, but it makes it difficult to scrape up any respect for him.

[B]Gear doesn't make good musicians.[/B] It's like an expensive car, doesn't make you a good driver but it can help you more easily demonstrate your skill.[/QUOTE]
Totally.

What was their band like as a whole?

The guitarists for this band were pretty good. Like skill wise they were pretty good. But the song writing was baaaad; the same generic metal riffs, with horrible horrible horrible vocals and cringe inducing lyrics. I'd compare it to a retarded James Hetfield. I really am sick of band settling on sub (in this case sub-sub-sub) par vocalists. It's like, if you can't get a band together where there are no weak links. Why bother?

It's a little elitist of me, but I'd prefer there were better bands out there than a mass of shitty ones.

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;17423985]Gear doesn't make good musicians. It's like an expensive car, doesn't make you a good driver but it can help you more easily demonstrate your miniscule penis.[/QUOTE]

Fo sho.

I'm dead set about the speed thing, you practise your two finger technique enough and you can go as fast as you can flailing with a pick. I'm not opposed to using them for flavour but that's where it ends for me.

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;17423998]Totally.

What was their band like as a whole?

The guitarists for this band were pretty good. Like skill wise they were pretty good. But the song writing was baaaad; the same generic metal riffs, with horrible horrible horrible vocals and cringe inducing lyrics. I'd compare it to a retarded James Hetfield. I really am sick of band settling on sub (in this case sub-sub-sub) par vocalists. It's like, if you can't get a band together where there are no weak links. Why bother?

It's a little elitist of me, but I'd prefer there were better bands out there than a mass of shitty ones.[/QUOTE]

They're not bad as a whole, but I think that they think they're a lot better than they are.

If that makes sense.

http://www.myspace.com/motivationcorp

[QUOTE=gaslight;17424007]Fo sho.

I'm dead set about the speed thing, you practise your two finger technique enough and you can go as fast as you can flailing with a pick. I'm not opposed to using them for flavour but that's where it ends for me.[/QUOTE]

Well I very rarely use one, I don't seem to have trouble keeping up but I think it could be helpful when we do a string of faster songs.

What picks do you use?

I have a dish of guitar picks that I have as a courtesy for guitarits, I always carry around some spare picks for forgetful guitarists and a drum key for forgetful drummers, but I have a couple of bass picks. The one I tool around with is a Jim Dunlop big stubby 3 mil. It's pretty chunky, cute purple colour.

[QUOTE=gaslight;17424025]What picks do you use?

I have a dish of guitar picks that I have as a courtesy for guitarits, I always carry around some spare picks for forgetful guitarists and a drum key for forgetful drummers, but I have a couple of bass picks. The one I tool around with is a Jim Dunlop big stubby 3 mil. It's pretty chunky, cute purple colour.[/QUOTE]

When I do use them, Dunlop Tortex 0.88mm. Or sometimes the SS icepix I wear on a thing on my wrist.

good gear doesnt make a good musician. It does make a musician with **** that isn't half broken/jerry rigged. i've never been more aware at how constantly moving musical equipment is generally bad for it. I've had 3 vaccume tubes out of 5 go in my ampeg lately, none during a show thank god.

my guitarist's amp showed up at a show busted, cymbals get dented, it's even more of a money pit then before.

Tubes are a danger because they're probably the most sensitive thing you can have in an amp.

I've always been extremely careful with my gear, I've been lucky enough to not damage any of it. Except that time I nearly cracked the headstock off my bass, that was my negligent parenting moment :(.

i had to get a hardcase inspite of what they cost. my head nearly vibrates off my cab when im playing so i bought some cheese cloth and nailed it to the cab :p

yeah tubes are finicky, i figure once one goes they all go so i might just get two more while im at it and start with all fresh

I'm mildly worried about the tubes in my new amp. I'm even considering replacing them with some **** ones just so I can keep the originals for if I want to sell it one day.

mine are in a svt-3 pro which only has 5 pre-amp tubes which are smaller, cheaper and easier to get.

im gonna go play civilization


i discovered nuclear fission in 1850

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;17424021]Well I very rarely use one, I don't seem to have trouble keeping up but I think it could be helpful when we do a string of faster songs.[/QUOTE]
As a bassist you'll rarely if ever need to go so fast that even a pretty decent player couldn't keep up.

And by that I mean you usually won't be called upon to play some sort of ridiculously paced grindcore or death metal.

Yeah, and if anyone does ask you to play grindcore, just call a cab and go somewhere worth being.

:lol:

I concurr.

It'll be worth the taxi fare amirite?

Go post that in R&M and see what happens lolz.

"don't flame t3h methulallallll!!!11!!!!

Base is ghey!!!"

Why ask the rock and metal forum for their thoughts when I could just give a retarded goat a typewriter and get something that would be twice as intelligent, let alone spelt better.

I happen to have a typewriter on my desk..

god anderson silva is such a badass.

[quote=gaslight;17424190]Why ask the rock and metal forum for their thoughts when I could just give a retarded goat a typewriter and get something that would be twice as intelligent, let alone spelt better.[/quote]

Because if a goat typed it, it wouldn't be METuhL enuff.

That's only because goats don't have the ability for homo-eroticism which is the basis of metal.