[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I don't mind Jelle, it's good to know you care.

I didn't think I was depressed, but my parents did. I thought I was just going through a tough time emotionally and that most teenagers expeience the same thing. But my parents say that lately I've had a major personality change. Apparently I'm really moody, extremely anti-social, I don't feel like doing things I usually love, and I'm eating much less. I was opposed to this whole situation, but they forced me to go see a doctor, and the doctor agreed with them.

I figured it was bound to happen because it's rampant in my family. Every single person on my dad's side of the family has it, and both of my brothers have it, one of whom was suicidal for a while. After having two other kids who went through the same thing my parents were watching me to see if I would show the same symptoms as them, and now it seems like I am. I'm sure most around here wouldn't have noticed that, but this is the internet.

I'd rather take the drugs and leave the therapy for later. I know that talking things out would be healthier, but I'm very uncomfortable talking to people about personal stuff like what my emotions have been up to. This particular drug I'm on is supposedly amazing, since my mom took it and it cured her almost entirely (although she didn't have full depression). One thing that does worry me is that it has side effects unique to teenagers. Apprently once I start taking it I may start to feel much much worse before I get better, and even though I wasn't considering hurting myself before, this drug may bring on those feelings before I start to feel better.

Sorry about this, I rambled on even longer then you, haha. I don't deny that something may be wrong but this whole situation makes me very uncomfortable. I just took my first pill, so I'll see what happens from here. :([/QUOTE]

Yeah, those side effects are what worry me. The fact that you say "apparently I'm this and that" leads me to believe that you don't realise it and that you don't feel depressed. So I ask myself, why go to the doctor when you don't feel sick/bad/whatever. Maybe, and I'm saying maybe, because of the fact that your brothers have it and so many of your relatives have it, your parents are making a bigger deal out of what you do than is necessary. Naturally, if the doctor hears those symptoms, he's inclined to agree, but he can't look inside your head.

Heh, you know, I really don't trust doctors, their favourite thing to say is "You're depressed" and "It's because of stress". Example: My grandmother complained to her doctors about a severe headache, and the doctors said that it was due to too much stress and she needed to relax. Turns out she had a huge tumor in her head. I really don't like doctors much.

But really now, maybe it's a genuine depression, but maybe it's "teen angst" or what should we call it. When I was your age, I felt miserable most of the time, but I know now that that wasn't a real depression. But what if it is just teenager problems? Then you're taking pills for no reason, with the chance of feeling a lot worse! So why take that chance, if you're not even feeling (that) depressed.

But then again, it's none of my business and I don't mean to upset you even more, I'm just saying, don't buy everything the doctor/your parents say and watch out with them medicines, lil Ben.


[QUOTE]I always thought that denial was a part of these things. I denied it and now it's happening, so that may be.[/QUOTE]

Silly Ben. :p

That way everyone who isn't depressed and denies it, is depressed?

[QUOTE]There's a history of Dementia, Paranoia, Schizophrenia and Depression in my family. I'm praying that I don't inherit any of them.[/QUOTE]

My whole family is nuts, I think. I have a bit of it as well, but I hide it. /evil laugh

[QUOTE]
I would have thought one of the first markers for having depression would be thinking that you were depressed yourself.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's I what I thought.

If they don't, then they are jerkoffs.

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Italian emo/screamo, don't ask :D

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Yeah, those side effects are what worry me. The fact that you say "apparently I'm this and that" leads me to believe that you don't realise it and that you don't feel depressed. So I ask myself, why go to the doctor when you don't feel sick/bad/whatever. Maybe, and I'm saying maybe, because of the fact that your brothers have it and so many of your relatives have it, your parents are making a bigger deal out of what you do than is necessary. Naturally, if the doctor hears those symptoms, he's inclined to agree, but he can't look inside your head.

Heh, you know, I really don't trust doctors, their favourite thing to say is "You're depressed" and "It's because of stress". Example: My grandmother complained to her doctors about a severe headache, and the doctors said that it was due to too much stress and she needed to relax. Turns out she had a huge tumor in her head. I really don't like doctors much.

But really now, maybe it's a genuine depression, but maybe it's "teen angst" or what should we call it. When I was your age, I felt miserable most of the time, but I know now that that wasn't a real depression. But what if it is just teenager problems? Then you're taking pills for no reason, with the chance of feeling a lot worse! So why take that chance, if you're not even feeling (that) depressed.

But then again, it's none of my business and I don't mean to upset you even more, I'm just saying, don't buy everything the doctor/your parents say and watch out with them medicines, lil Ben.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the same thing. I was sure that I didn't have it, but my parents seemed to be really sensetive to the symptoms. I don't know if they're overreacting or if they really see something I don't, but I knew that the doctor was going to agree when he (it's actually a she) heard the symptoms. By describing it it sounds like a classic case of depression, but it's entirely possible it could be "teen angst" or something like that.

It's alright, I don't find this upsetting. I'll probably always be skeptical because depression seems like a disgnosis that is thrown around very often, probably when it shouldn't be. But I think with the regular visits to the doctor and going to talk to someone I'll be watched pretty carefully, so I'll be alright Big Jelle. :)

Oh, that Ben. :p

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I was thinking the same thing. I was sure that I didn't have it, but my parents seemed to be really sensetive to the symptoms. I don't know if they're overreacting or if they really see something I don't, but I knew that the doctor was going to agree when he (it's actually a she) heard the symptoms. By describing it it sounds like a classic case of depression, but it's entirely possible it could be "teen angst" or something like that.

It's alright, I don't find this upsetting. I'll probably always be skeptical because depression seems like a disgnosis that is thrown around very often, probably when it shouldn't be. But I think with the regular visits to the doctor and going to talk to someone I'll be watched pretty carefully, so I'll be alright Big Jelle. :)

Oh, that Ben. :p[/QUOTE]

A she? Now I doubt it even more. :p

And yes, you should be watching out, and don't let them make you take more pills. It's bad enough that you have to take these, you don't need more.

[QUOTE=Stoic]There's nothing more barbaric than having exams [I]after[/I] holidays :upset:
[/QUOTE]

No there is nothing more barbaric than having to work til midnight tonight, then go in at 6 in the morning tomorrow morning, which is christmas eve. That is my case for this year

I'd never trust a doctor my sadness.

That's why I only share that with my notation book.

Good ol' fashioned notation book.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]A she? Now I doubt it even more. :p

And yes, you should be watching out, and don't let them make you take more pills. It's bad enough that you have to take these, you don't need more.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully they won't have the extreme side effects they warned me of, since apparently this stuff is a miracle drug.

Although it did hurt when my mom told me I was ruining Christmas with my attitude. :(

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Hopefully they won't have the extreme side effects they warned me of, since apparently this stuff is a miracle drug.

Although it did hurt when my mom told me I was ruining Christmas with my attitude. :([/QUOTE]
My mum and dad are both depressed. The drugs the doctors gave them helped a lot and now my mum doesn't need to take them.

Hahahah
My mum gave me my true Norwegian Black metal shirt as an early christmas present.

This is so cool.

NP-The Smiths-Bigmouth strikes again.(Live)

damn

what a crappy time to get sick like, I'm sneezing all the time, and just feel a bit crappy :(

I won't be sick if I don't admitt to it :p

Bandpractice was cool today, first practice for the first time in 3 weeks

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Hopefully they won't have the extreme side effects they warned me of, since apparently this stuff is a miracle drug.

Although it did hurt when my mom told me I was ruining Christmas with my attitude. :([/QUOTE]

No such thing as a miracle drug, I'm afraid.

And every teen ruins Christmas at some point, I think. My brother has exactly the same symptoms you described and he's even saying how sad he is and stuff, he has the same age as you. But I very much doubt he is actually depressed, he's just ... in his puberty.


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[QUOTE=Superpeer]No such thing as a miracle drug, I'm afraid.

And every teen ruins Christmas at some point, I think. My brother has exactly the same symptoms you described and he's even saying how sad he is and stuff, he has the same age as you. But I very much doubt he is actually depressed, [b]he's just ... in his puberty.[/b]


NP: Beethoven - Presto Agitato (No.14 'Moonlight' Op.27)[/QUOTE]


yea puberty's a bitch. When i was 7 and my brother was like 14 he hit puberty and it was pretty bad to say the least

[QUOTE=Superpeer]No such thing as a miracle drug, I'm afraid.

And every teen ruins Christmas at some point, I think. My brother has exactly the same symptoms you described and he's even saying how sad he is and stuff, he has the same age as you. But I very much doubt he is actually depressed, he's just ... in his puberty.


NP: Beethoven - Presto Agitato (No.14 'Moonlight' Op.27)[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately you're right, but this one's pretty good. My mom had anxiety issues and this helped it with no side effects. My aunt was bipolar to the point of hurting herself and other people around here, and this stuff brought her back when dozens of other drugs did nothing. But thinkingof that makes me wonder if they're giving me a really pwoerful drug when I seem to have mild symptoms.

NP: Opeth - By the Pain I See In Others

[QUOTE=the2stranger]damn

what a crappy time to get sick like, I'm sneezing all the time, and just feel a bit crappy :(

I won't be sick if I don't admitt to it :p

Bandpractice was cool today, first practice for the first time in 3 weeks[/QUOTE]
I have band practice tomorrow. On Christmas eve :-/

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Unfortunately you're right, but this one's pretty good. My mom had anxiety issues and this helped it with no side effects. My aunt was bipolar to the point of hurting herself and other people around here, and this stuff brought her back when dozens of other drugs did nothing. But thinkingof that makes me wonder if they're giving me a really pwoerful drug when I seem to have mild symptoms.

NP: Opeth - By the Pain I See In Others[/QUOTE]

Well, I sincerely hope it does help you, even though you don't really feel depressed. :p Not sure how you will notice if it helps, but yeah. Maybe it's just a good placebo.

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Bennie, your case is weird. People with depression should feel bad, shouldnt they? I totally agree with Jelle, try to be cautious! I sometimes get the feeling that american people overdo it with their psychological issues, get to see therapists and take pills too easily.

I definitely feel bad, but I didn't think it was nearly extreme enough to be put on medication. I am a little weird about all of this. Americans really do label things "depression" and throw around pills too often when it could be something normal, so hopefully all of this doesn't send me into some kind of emotional high.

[QUOTE=Happy]I have band practice tomorrow. On Christmas eve :-/[/QUOTE]

I would have, but I'm leaving tomorrow, to go visit my grandparents. Grandpa's in the hospital again. :(

Yea, somehow, we DO medicate way too easily.

...and by the way, you've been posting/spending time on line a lot lately (you even own the community thread :p). Does it have anything to do with your emotional state? And are you totally aware about the reasons that make you feel this way?

Those are some points that lead me to believe that this may be needed. I have been spending an unnatural amount of time at the computer lately, and I haven't been doing much else. One of the symptoms of depression is losing interest in things you like, and lately I've been sitting here wasting time and neglecting to play guitar, which is something I really value. The negative emotions come for seemingly no reason, so sometimes I get the feeling something is wrong.

i was diagnosed as depressed 2 years ago but never got medication. eventually, i just stopped going to the therapy sessions. they didnt really seem to do any good. don't worry, my parents have been saying that i ruin christmas for years. just yesterday my mother called me worthless and fatass, neither of which i think i am. im also trying to quit smoking which is probably contributing to my poor attitude. i isolate myself with my computer as well. i almost never converse with my parents but i dont think its because im depressed. i just have nothing to say to them. its unnaturally hard for me to ask how their day was and stuff like that.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Those are some points that lead me to believe that this may be needed. I have been spending an unnatural amount of time at the computer lately, and I haven't been doing much else. One of the symptoms of depression is losing interest in things you like, [B]and lately I've been sitting here wasting time[/B] and neglecting to play guitar, which is something I really value. The negative emotions come for seemingly no reason, so sometimes I get the feeling something is wrong.[/QUOTE]

oh thank you very much! :mad:

But seriously, there must be a reason for you to feel this way and you're the only one who can firgure it out. Try to spend some time thinking what could be wrong or start keeping an insightful diary. It could be something you already know but you're not willing to admit

[QUOTE=Shattered Future]Yea, somehow, we DO medicate way too easily.[/QUOTE]

I think in the US, besides psychiatrists, psychologists are also allowed to give medication, am I right?

[QUOTE=Stoic]oh thank you very much! :mad:

But seriously, there must be a reason for you to feel this way and you're the only one who can firgure it out. Try to spend some time thinking what could be wrong or start keeping an insightful diary. It could be something you already know but you're not willing to admit



I think in the US, besides psychiatrists, psychologists are also allowed to give medication, am I right?[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry. :(

I need to stop isolating myself, that's for sure. I need to go back to things I used to do and the way I used to be and stop neglecting other people.

Psychiatrists can give medication, but psychologists cannot.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I'm sorry. :(

I need to stop isolating myself, that's for sure. I need to go back to things I used to do and the way I used to be and stop neglecting other people.

[B]Psychiatrists can give medication, but psychologists cannot[/B].[/QUOTE]

ahh, misconception!

Well Bennie, I get the impression that you're being very co-operative and this is certainly a good sign. I'd be cautious as far as pills are concerned (=the easy solution!) and I would prefer therapy.

I just thought that school might be a main factor to affect your mood. You dont sound too happy about it (catholic school, too much work etc)

if im just feelling down I just listen to some dragon force and that cheers me right up :thumb:

[QUOTE=Ace_of_Bass2112]if im just feelling down I just listen to some dragon force and that cheers me right up :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Now there's something that would depress me. :p

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Now there's something that would depress me. :p[/QUOTE]

>_>
<_<

play some disney metal to cheer you up...

[QUOTE=Stoic]>_>
<_<

play some disney metal to cheer you up...[/QUOTE]

She already found the post where I accuse her of stalking. :eek:

I was right. :mad:

Minor Threat - Out of Step

"I don't smoke!" "I don't drink" "I don't f[COLOR="White"]u[/COLOR]ck"

/lies


Changed into: Alice in Chains - Dirt

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Now there's something that would depress me. :p[/QUOTE]
How? Dragonforce is so Goddamn happy.:amaze:

[QUOTE=Silenius]How? Dragonforce is so Goddamn happy.:amaze:[/QUOTE]

I think you mean: Dragonforce is so Goddamn crappy. :)