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blue3 09-20-2005 04:21 PM

What song was it

flamesofbodom 09-20-2005 04:21 PM

Kalmah's songs are all incredible...that ive heard

Shadows 09-20-2005 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=blue3]What song was it[/QUOTE]
Heroes to Us

Shadows 09-20-2005 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=GiB_PlAyEr123]Yeah thats not a very good song try Silent Night Bodom Night my personal fav :p[/QUOTE]
We're talking about Kalmah, not CoB. CoB has no song by that name.

IheartSP 09-20-2005 04:24 PM

I wasn't speaking my mind, I was just stating what Squirrel usually says in response to any comment about Bodom. Usually the initial reaction is a diss Alexi's skills or a Kalmah is better remark :p.

blue3 09-20-2005 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Heroes to Us[/QUOTE]I've heard of that song. I liked it.

Shattered_Future 09-20-2005 04:53 PM

I really like Kalmah, probably on par with Bodom, but for different reasons.

Bodom has the technical department. Alexi's solos are mindblowing at times, and usually just all around brilliant.

Kalmah has the songwriting department down. They have brilliant, melodic riffage, great drums, good use of keys...and a better vocalist to boot. He can hit low notes as well. :p

IheartSP 09-20-2005 05:46 PM

I think Bodom are far superior songwriters to Kalmah, and that is most of the reason why they are so much popular. I like Kalmah but there really is no comparison in my mind. Same case with Norther, it's similar but changed a little but, but just doesn't add up to what Bodom's got.

I've never herad anyone mention them here but Mourn In Silence is a more Powermetally/symphonic version of Bodom, and I think they are on par with Kalmah and Norther. Imperanon and Skyfire fall short of even them.

I think Wintersun is the only real contender with Bodom, and they are almost too different to really compare. If Wintersun's next album is anything like the first, I'll have to say they are better than Bodom, the first album was better than either Hatebreeder or FTR imo.

Thor 09-20-2005 05:48 PM

[QUOTE=Indemoned]Come on man, the boys in COB pump out some quality solos, I really like the one on Kissing the Shadows actually.[/QUOTE]
Kissing the Shadows has a great solo, but my favorite solo has to be the intro to Red Light In My Eyes Pt. 2 (at least at the moment.)

Shadows Within 09-20-2005 05:49 PM

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]Kissing the Shadows has a great solo, but my favorite solo has to be the intro to Red Light In My Eyes Pt. 2 (at least at the moment.)[/QUOTE]
its not very long...

PsychoticFlubber 09-20-2005 05:55 PM

How dare any of you say anything about anyone being better than COB. Sure, there are bands like Black Sabbath, Metallica, and Megadeth, and all of those good bands, but those will always remain the great starting point to what made some of the greatest bands. Well... all I mean, is that for the present, COB are far better than just about anyone as far as I can tell.

Thor 09-20-2005 06:04 PM

[QUOTE=Laihoistheman]its not very long...[/QUOTE]
So? Length doesn't control its awesomeness. :lol:

Shadows 09-20-2005 06:58 PM

[QUOTE=PsychoticFlubber]How dare any of you say anything about anyone being better than COB. Sure, there are bands like Black Sabbath, Metallica, and Megadeth, and all of those good bands, but those will always remain the great starting point to what made some of the greatest bands. Well... all I mean, is that for the present, COB are far better than just about anyone as far as I can tell.[/QUOTE]
Those bands are crap compared to CoB.

The only band I've heard similar to Bodom that was actually good is Norther. I have couple of their albums and I think they're great. They have the heavy power metal thing down, and know how to create atmospheres better than CoB ever did. The only drawback is that the guitarwork is nothing compared to Alexi.

IheartSP 09-20-2005 07:01 PM

I think Norther has a good thing going, there problem is the songwriting is extremely basic compared to CoB's.

Shadows Within 09-20-2005 07:02 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Those bands are crap compared to CoB.

The only band I've heard similar to Bodom that was actually good is Norther. I have couple of their albums and I think they're great. They have the heavy power metal thing down, and know how to create atmospheres better than CoB ever did. The only drawback is that the guitarwork is nothing compared to Alexi.[/QUOTE]
can u give me an upload somewhere iv eheard about them but havent heard them.

IheartSP 09-20-2005 07:05 PM

I'll send you some on AIM.

flamesofbodom 09-20-2005 07:08 PM

I dont have enough Norther to judge.

IheartSP 09-20-2005 07:09 PM

If you had some kind of instant messanger service I'd send you some, but you don't...

flamesofbodom 09-20-2005 07:10 PM

Thanks for reminding how much i suffer

Shattered_Future 09-20-2005 07:11 PM

[QUOTE=IheartSP]I think Norther has a good thing going, there problem is the songwriting is extremely basic compared to CoB's.[/QUOTE]

COB has really basic songwriting too...Alexi reuses riffs too much.

However, the little melodic ditties added here and there really make the songs sound less boring...

Norther I don't like much. They're really boring in my book.

IheartSP 09-20-2005 07:12 PM

CoB doesn't have very simple songwriting if you ask me. Re-using riffs shouldn't really be a factor in that. Look at the descending riff in Black Widow, it's very layered and complicated if you ask me, I couldn't write something like that.

flamesofbodom 09-20-2005 07:14 PM

[QUOTE=IheartSP]CoB doesn't have very simple songwriting if you ask me. Re-using riffs shouldn't really be a factor in that. Look at the descending riff in Black Widow, it's very layered and complicated if you ask me, I couldn't write something like that.[/QUOTE]
There's a lot of leads like that in the song. :confused:

IheartSP 09-20-2005 07:15 PM

Yes I guess, I didn't have a better word for it. It comes after the verses.

flamesofbodom 09-20-2005 07:20 PM

Oh that. Yeah that is amazing creativity there

Shadows 09-20-2005 08:04 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Norther I don't like much. They're really boring in my book.[/QUOTE]
Their music is much simpler than CoB. Most Norther is built solely upon catchy melodies, but I think they pull them off beautifully.

Papa Gheylol 09-21-2005 04:51 AM

[QUOTE=IheartSP]Yes Squirrel we all know Kalmah and Sentenced are better but you can't deny Alexi is a good guitarist. Whether there are a million better or not, it doesn't make those solos any easier.[/QUOTE]

Squirrel here.

You read into my posts every fuc[size=2]king[/size] time I post.

I said one particular solo isnt as great as you fanboys make it out to be.

Apparently that meants i'm completely dissing Alexi and his band right.


I stated a couple of times that Sentenced and Kalmah came before CoB, making CoB no where near as original as you lot make out, you seem to take that as a mortal blow and bring that up every time I make a post.


I also laugh at the people who say CoB is technical :lol:

Shadows Within 09-21-2005 05:24 AM

[QUOTE=Papa Gheylol]I also laugh at the people who say CoB is technical :lol:[/QUOTE]
hmmmmm mabye because they are? just a thought

Papa Gheylol 09-21-2005 05:31 AM

:lol::lol:

They're [B]no where near[/B] technical.

Shadows 09-21-2005 05:36 AM

Kalmah was around for a couple years before CoB, but CoB debuted first, so it's hard to say they copied styles. I guess Alexi's playing isn't technical per se, but it is very difficult and based heavily on theory and other styles of music.

What were you banned for Squirrel?

Papa Gheylol 09-21-2005 06:24 AM

Technical doesnt just refer to Alexi ffs, it's the band as a whole that everyones on about.

"Based heavil on theory" - just like the majority of music then ..

Other styles ? you mean he rapes harmonic minor so he's "classical" ?


His playing is nothing special tbh.


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