Grrrr. The Dear Diary thread got closed before I got a chance to go on about how amazing they are.

[QUOTE=cuts_like_drugs]agreed, thats why I think its werid to call them emo, because em to me is Moss Icon, Still Life, Hoover, etc. Hot Cross and CTTS is screamo. There is a signifficant difference to me.[/QUOTE]


Hot Cross aren't screamo.


And Dear Diary own purely for the Johnny the Homicidal Maniac reference.

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Lindsey's vocals > kathy's vocals[/QUOTE]
The Assistant's female vocalist is as good if not better than those.

many of the emo/screamo/"revolution summer" hardcore groups sound alot like more chaotic and aggressive forms on indie.

So now we have emo/screamo being listed as grindcore, hardcore, and possibly indie for some of them. All of them are very distint genres that have little in common with each other.

My point? i don't have one because I woke up literally five minutes ago and I have no clue what I'm even talking about. :p

How about you just stop talking about it? Emo will always be emo no matter what people call it.


Belle Epoque > Everyone.

becasue it's clear that bands themselves are rejected the emo/screamo label because many of them have taken the genres off of their Myspaces and PVs. And now this Abolish Screamo Tour thing is going on.

Plus it's too hard to explain to everyone, and I hate talking to hard headed idiots that won't believe a single thing I tell them. Labelling it under hardcore or something will just make things much easier in the future.

Who cares? Rites of Spring hated the emo label but they're an emo band. Just because a band doesn't like the label doesn't change the genre that they are.


And if it's too hard, don't explain it. Let them be ignorant. As long as you know what it is and enjoy it, that's all that matters.

Sorry, but I like talking about music with people. I know it's emo, and I love it, but I can't be bothered to explain that to every single person I wish to talk to.

I'm just not going to shame the bands i like by callign them emo or screamo anymore. Apparently the Used is the common example of emo used by the media, and nearly everyone who listens to music. Let these horrible bands and their fans take the label and it's bad reputation, and we'll go on under a new title.

The bands are hardcore, but I'm just looking for more descriptive words so that I can describe a bands sound more learly when I hold a conversatin with someone.

Dude, it's really not that hard to explain. I've done it dozens of times in less than three minutes.


Shame them? If the bands themselves get so upset over the name of the genre of music they play, they should stop playing it. It's emo, always has been emo, always will be emo. The other bands already have a set genre called pop-rock. Let the public be misinformed. I'd rather have it the way it is now than the little scenesters running around talking about Saetia and how "hot" Billy Werner is just 'cause he was in an amazing band.


If you're looking for a more descriptive word and they're ignorant, just say emotional hardcore. Afterall, that's what emo is.

Listen to Wow. Its not important. Emo is Emo. Screamo is Screamo. Hardcore is Hardore. Pop-Punk is Pop-Punk. Drop it.

dudes...is there a place i can request a sample of these bands you speak of? I'm into emo/sceamo but i just haven't heard everything. It would be pretty cool if there was a request thread or something like that...

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]Sorry, but I like talking about music with people. I know it's emo, and I love it, but I can't be bothered to explain that to every single person I wish to talk to.

I'm just not going to shame the bands i like by callign them emo or screamo anymore. Apparently the Used is the common example of emo used by the media, and nearly everyone who listens to music. Let these horrible bands and their fans take the label and it's bad reputation, and we'll go on under a new title.

The bands are hardcore, but I'm just looking for more descriptive words so that I can describe a bands sound more learly when I hold a conversatin with someone.[/QUOTE]

Just call them hardcore bands then? I don't think anyone here cares man.

AIM me at FuzzyLlamaOfDoom. I'll hook you up with whatever you want.

[QUOTE=Sep]Just call them hardcore bands then? I don't think anyone here cares man.[/QUOTE]
That's what I've been saying... and I know nobody cares, I'm just looking for an easy way of describing bands to people without using the terms emo or screamo. Like if I want to tell someone about Saetia, I want to describe their sound and genre without actualy using the word emo, because I wouldn't feel like explaining anything more than just that sepcific band.

I give up, since you guys don't see what I'm asking.

Lately i've been listening to some french emo like Amanda Woodward, Daïtro and so on. And i found out that on their flyers and posters they call it emocore. But isn't that just emotional hardcore core?. sounds stupid to me anyway.

there is no such thing as emocore. That's just stupid.

Does anyone know of any books, links, sites, or other forums that I could check out to learn EVERYTHING about the history of emo and screamo. Please don't say fourfa, because I hate taht site with a bloody passion.

I'm looking for anything that will help me learn, and I would rather it be as in-depth as possible. I know there are a couple books that have been published, but I don't know the names.

So, link me to this shizz!

[QUOTE=Pinkpiche]Lately i've been listening to some french emo like Amanda Woodward, Daïtro and so on. And i found out that on their flyers and posters they call it emocore. But isn't that just emotional hardcore core?. sounds stupid to me anyway.[/QUOTE]

Amazing bands. Check out La Quiete and Raein for some Italian emo.

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]Does anyone know of any books, links, sites, or other forums that I could check out to learn EVERYTHING about the history of emo and screamo. Please don't say fourfa, because I hate taht site with a bloody passion.

I'm looking for anything that will help me learn, and I would rather it be as in-depth as possible. I know there are a couple books that have been published, but I don't know the names.

So, link me to this shizz![/QUOTE]


[url]http://www.mesaverde.co.uk/mp3/[/url]

[QUOTE=Wow]Dude, it's really not that hard to explain. I've done it dozens of times in less than three minutes.


Shame them? If the bands themselves get so upset over the name of the genre of music they play, they should stop playing it. It's emo, always has been emo, always will be emo. The other bands already have a set genre called pop-rock. Let the public be misinformed. I'd rather have it the way it is now than the little scenesters running around talking about Saetia and how "hot" Billy Werner is just 'cause he was in an amazing band.


If you're looking for a more descriptive word and they're ignorant, just say emotional hardcore. Afterall, that's what emo is.[/QUOTE]
the day i hear a scenester at my school say billy werner is hot is the day i shoot myself in the head.

I have scenesters talking about Orchid here.

damn. well orchid are really popular, ive heard the name thrown around at shows along with circle takes the square but thats is about as far as comprehension of screamo goes in my area.

I have scenesters talking about UnderOATH and how they go to Church.
It's always refreshing to see little boys in tight pants and femine looks going to church.
The Priests love it.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


latest word from the vatican: "emo is ok"
weeks later: "it seems that the latest convention of catholic priests will be hosting the band underOATH and that all fans of the music are invited to come and listen and then spend the night."

[QUOTE=Wow]I have scenesters talking about Orchid here.[/QUOTE]
how do you define scenester exactly? Is it just the way they dress? You know, with the white belt, unisex haircut, and girl pants?

Thanks for the awesome link btw. ;)

[QUOTE=Wow][url]http://www.mesaverde.co.uk/mp3/[/url][/QUOTE]
nice link.

If you guys have any more links, let me know. I am compiling a list of educational links to send to people when needed, as well as reading them for myself and learning.

I already know fourfa, the wiki definition, and now that new link, but I need more than that.

[QUOTE=whiteminority]Location: TN[/QUOTE]
Where in TN do you live? Sorry if this has come up between us before, I just don't remember. I remember someone aroudnd here was from Knoxville, I think. I don't remember if it was you though.

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]how do you define scenester exactly? Is it just the way they dress? You know, with the white belt, unisex haircut, and girl pants?

Thanks for the awesome link btw. ;)[/QUOTE]


That and the attitude.


"My life is a black hole of nothingness sucking me in as apathy consumes my entire being" type people.

Haha, I know what you mean then.