It's pretty damn awesome though.

It is pretty damn awesome, yes, but so are most things Floyd has recorded.

[QUOTE=last_few_bricks;14742864]yeah, it's really good, but the best?[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is. They never matched the excitement or the playful experimental nature of the first singles and album. I like their other albums up to [I]Animals[/I] but they don't match the brilliance of the Barrett era.

[QUOTE=Leper;14745897]It is pretty damn awesome, yes, but so are most things Floyd has recorded.[/QUOTE]

Nah, that's a lie.

[QUOTE=The NPC;14745933]Nah, that's a lie.[/QUOTE]

I only speak the truth, sir.

I'm actually not that big a fan of the Barrett era. Well...I am a fan but I just prefer the post-Barrett era.

[QUOTE=Leper;14745952]I only speak the truth, sir.

I'm actually not that big a fan of the Barrett era. Well...I am a fan but I just prefer the post-Barrett era.[/QUOTE]

I love Floyd but even I can admit that all their post Barrett albums have their flaws and are no where near as consistent as their early work. They were never as good as they could have possibly been had Barrett stuck around. Their Gilmore/Waters 70s albums are also to a large degree very overrated.

Only thing Floyd ever did that came close to Barrett-era was Careful With That Axe, Eugene, however, that is their best song.

this band is awesome

[QUOTE=Danger Bird;14746422]Only thing Floyd ever did that came close to Barrett-era was Careful With That Axe, Eugene, however, that is their best song.[/QUOTE]

That's a great track, but "Echoes" is probably the best post Barrett track.

I dont know why,but Ive never liked the Barrett era. My favorite albums are from Meddle to The Wall,all 5 of those albums are great.

[QUOTE]That's a great track, but "Echoes" is probably the best post Barrett track.[/QUOTE]
Echoes is one of their best tracks, but post-Barrett era music is at it's finest on Animals IMO. The best track off Animals would probably have to be Dogs.

[QUOTE=morrison357;14747777]Echoes is one of their best tracks, but post-Barrett era music is at it's finest on Animals IMO. The best track off Animals would probably have to be Dogs.[/QUOTE]

It was already formulaic by [I]Animals[/I].

Not really. You could just as easily say that [I]Piper At The Gates Of Dawn[/I] was formulaic, if you wanted to break each song down to its base components.

[QUOTE=Riva;14750046]Not really. You could just as easily say that [I]Piper At The Gates Of Dawn[/I] was formulaic, if you wanted to break each song down to its base components.[/QUOTE]

Yes really and no you can't do that with Piper. It's all over the place.

lol pentatonic

Wearing the Inside Out is such a damn good song.

[QUOTE=The NPC;14750181]Yes really and no you can't do that with Piper. It's all over the place.[/QUOTE]

Comparing psychedelic rock to progressive rock, yeah, it's more over the place. Even so, you've got Lucifer Sam, Matilda Mother, The Gnome, Chapter 24 and Scarecrow that are predominately lyrics based, with a musical interlude in the centre, whereas Interstellar Overdrive, Pow R Toc H and Astronomy Domine are based around music, and finally Bike and Take Up Thy Stethoscope And Walk which balance the two.

The rhyming schemes in almost all the songs are generally AA BB CC or ABAC, and probably the most dynamic parts of the songs is the guitar and keyboards.

[QUOTE=MrConeman;14750226]Wearing the Inside Out is such a damn good song.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's grown on me too.

[QUOTE=Riva;14750300]Comparing psychedelic rock to progressive rock, yeah, it's more over the place. Even so, you've got Lucifer Sam, Matilda Mother, The Gnome, Chapter 24 and Scarecrow that are predominately lyrics based, with a musical interlude in the centre, whereas Interstellar Overdrive, Pow R Toc H and Astronomy Domine are based around music, and finally Bike and Take Up Thy Stethoscope And Walk which balance the two.

The rhyming schemes in almost all the songs are generally AA BB CC or ABAC, and probably the most dynamic parts of the songs is the guitar and keyboards.



Yeah, it's grown on me too.[/QUOTE]

Progressive Rock doesn't exist. The Bad Man made it up. You're taking the "formulaic" idea too literally. All music is formulaic because if it weren't you wouldn't have a logical progression of an arrangement. The point is there are a lot more things going in Piper then any other album they made. If you listen to it separated in quadraphonic sound it's pretty exciting.

P.S. Roger Waters is tone deaf.

And David Gilmour's eyebrows are bloody creepy.

Just out of curiosity, how many posts do you have in this thread Jason?

464 in this one. Probably more in the last one.

Piper is a great album and I love Syd, but I'm kind of glad events unfolded that led them away from the psychedelic music. That genre completely disappeared a couple years after Piper was released, so we would have gotten another album, maybe two out of Floyd before they were gone.

Even if they had changed, would they have been as good a band? We never really got to hear Syd write anything other than that psych stuff.

So I enjoy Piper and Syd's time with the band, but I prefer the stuff the normal lineup released more.

[QUOTE=MattSharpIsCool;14751110]Piper is a great album and I love Syd, but I'm kind of glad events unfolded that led them away from the psychedelic music. That genre completely disappeared a couple years after Piper was released, so we would have gotten another album, maybe two out of Floyd before they were gone.

Even if they had changed, would they have been as good a band? We never really got to hear Syd write anything other than that psych stuff.

So I enjoy Piper and Syd's time with the band, but I prefer the stuff the normal lineup released more.[/QUOTE]

whoa, that never occurred to me. I'm more into their later stuff, although I like the old, psych stuff, too. just couldn't imagine Pink Floyd fading into obscurity that early...

Well, really, I doubt that, even if Syd had stayed with the band till the end of the psychedelic era, he would have been able to adapt to the kind of music that Roger and Rick were writing. His personality was just too different, I think, which is sad because it's ultimately his personality that led to his breakdowns.

Do you think they would be a bit like the Beatles because they were kinda heading that way with Piper?

Well, I suppose it could be possible, since you could draw parallels between Roger and John Lennon as the lead creative forces behind each band, but I don't think so. The Beatles and Pink Floyd both went through their psychedelic periods at the same time, it is true, but that might have been more of a situational thing than anything else, considering Sgt. Pepper's and Piper were recorded at the same time at Abbey Road.

Yeah, true. St. Pepper got a lot of recongition, where as Piper from what I could understand didnt. Therefore they may have become unknown and only refered to as a Beatle rip-off in later dates. This could be a lot of bullshit but meh.

Piper was rather well-received actually, enough to make Syd go crazy from being thrust into the limelight. They certainly weren't on the same level as The Beatles, though.

That kinda makes sense. Piper might not have got a lot of recognition due to the fact that a) Syd left with only recording one studio album with them and b) they released better albums afterwards.