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fingers mccoy 08-01-2010 07:03 AM

[url]http://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html[/url]

read the entire thing, do not skip parts because you think they're obvious.

EmbraceRandom 08-01-2010 07:07 AM

I didn't no, my legs are still quite strong, I just want to sort my upper body out before I start going to the gym, at which point I'll do it all.
Thanks for the link

Squirrel 08-01-2010 08:08 AM

what do you mean "sort out" your upper body?

and are you thinking you've gopt strong legs cause you play footy or something similar?

Sad But True 08-01-2010 08:09 AM

Cool link Fingers. Thanks.

EmbraceRandom 08-01-2010 08:25 AM

No I just know that my legs are much stronger than my upper body, as in I wouldn't be embarrassed doing leg work in a gym but I would with upper body stuff at the moment because I haven't done any weights since I shattered my right hand. So if I 'sort out' my upper body, i.e. build up a bit of foundational muscle at home, then I can maybe (if necessary) go the gym and work on upper body AND legs.

I haven't been properly fit/strong since I played hockey back when I was like 14/15. Hockey still interests me a lot so I'd like to get back into it one day, but I need to be fully fit and strong before I even hit the ice.

Squirrel 08-01-2010 08:47 AM

getting fit and big enough for the gym is such a bullshit paradox, stop being a pussy and go to the gym

EmbraceRandom 08-01-2010 08:57 AM

No no no, I'm not saying get big before I go to the gym, that would be paradoxical. I couldn't give a **** if some roid-boy was looking down on me, but at the same time I'd like to build up a bit of a foundation at home with dumbbells before I start paying for gym memberships, so I guess some of it is a confidence thing. Be reet.

I'm starting an MA in October, the uni gym is ok and relatively cheap so I'll graft at home until then, then get a membership and start using the uni gym throughout the year.

I read in that link about compound/isolation exercises, I see where you're coming from now. It's not exactly time-consuming to just say:

[quote]* They do a much better job of stimulating overall muscle growth and development than isolation movements.

* They allow you to work out more efficiently. You can hit every major muscle group with a small number of exercises.

* They more closely resemble ways you will exert your body in real life. They are better at producing practical, useful strength.[/quote]

rather than be a big meany and stuff :p lol

Squirrel 08-01-2010 08:58 AM

well i assumed when you were talking about splits and stuff you knew what you were on about but evidently not

EmbraceRandom 08-01-2010 08:59 AM

Never assume anything, especially if you're gonna be a tit about it when you realise you're assumptions were wrong :p

I assume you're actually a squirrel, but the way you talk about weights makes me think that I may be wrong. And I thought you looked all dapper in a suit and trilby :(

Squirrel 08-01-2010 09:30 AM

never assume anything ;)

fingers mccoy 08-01-2010 10:41 AM

[QUOTE=Squirrel;18109058]never assume anything ;)[/QUOTE]

you know i just thought, how sweet is it that you picked the user name squirrel, so long before the swear filter came into effect?

that's pretty sweet.

Squirrel 08-01-2010 10:50 AM

[QUOTE=fingers mccoy;18109127]you know i just thought, how sweet is it that you picked the user name squirrel, so long before the swear filter came into effect?

that's pretty sweet.[/QUOTE]

yeah i realised that the other day actually, weird eh

Kuffuffled 08-01-2010 05:13 PM

Brosefs I need to make a single guitar track sound beefy, cause I play the song differently every time so double tracking isn't happening

I could double and move one a touch out of phase, and add chorus. I have some beefer vst thinger which does basically that

Any other suggestions kind sirs?

Maybe make my song do a pushup or 2

GuitarBizarre 08-01-2010 05:17 PM

[QUOTE=viciouscycle;18109597]Brosefs I need to make a single guitar track sound beefy, cause I play the song differently every time so double tracking isn't happening

I could double and move one a touch out of phase, and add chorus. I have some beefer vst thinger which does basically that

Any other suggestions kind sirs?

Maybe make my song do a pushup or 2[/QUOTE]

Learn to play it the same way twice and doubletrack it like a real man.

fingers mccoy 08-01-2010 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=viciouscycle;18109597]Brosefs I need to make a single guitar track sound beefy, cause I play the song differently every time so double tracking isn't happening[/QUOTE]

don't record if you don't have a clear idea of what you're recording.

you should be able to play it the same way twice - or if not, to make the deviations work.

Daily Routine 08-01-2010 10:11 PM

i think there can be a certain value to his approach and wish u would all shut the fuk up about "u should be able to play it the same way twice"

according to wut? it's all about your intentions and obviously his are different than yours so answer his fuking question and get over your fuking bullshi[COLOR="Black"]t[/COLOR]

Daily Routine 08-01-2010 10:26 PM

FUKING ENORMOUS BUNDLES OF STICKS

alright man here's a tip for you just copy and paste that one guitar track so you have a few different versions and mess around with them individually like maybe offset one track by a very small amount or put a bunch of reverb on one and eq it differently or whatever idk i'm not really knowledgeable regarding this stuff but i'm trying to offset the large bundle of sticksry going on in here so i hope this helps

JoshIsNumber3 08-01-2010 10:41 PM

its pretty awesome you're giving advice on something you don't know

Daily Routine 08-01-2010 10:46 PM

it's even more awesome you're not giving advice on something you know

Kuffuffled 08-01-2010 10:49 PM

lmao I like how I am told to double track when I don't want to

I'll try those things thanks brosef

I've double tracked before I just don't want to with this one

Daily Routine 08-01-2010 10:54 PM

no problem man sorry these guys are diks

check this out too maybe this will help [url]http://www.brighthub.com/multimedia/audio/articles/5325.aspx[/url]

JoshIsNumber3 08-01-2010 11:52 PM

enjoy your phasing!

Kuffuffled 08-02-2010 12:42 AM

ilu

EmbraceRandom 08-02-2010 01:54 AM

Haas trick, always works with me for making a single guitar track sound bigger, fills the stereo image but only subtly. I think Dream Theater use it a lot, not very well though, their production sucks bum.

EDIT: tbh I usually use the Haas trick even if there's two guitars, makes them both sound obese

fingers mccoy 08-02-2010 02:46 AM

[QUOTE=viciouscycle;18109936]lmao I like how I am told to double track when I don't want to

I'll try those things thanks brosef

I've double tracked before I just don't want to with this one[/QUOTE]

wait.... aren't you trying to double track, just without playing it twice?

it will sound richer if you actually play it twice, no question.

of course you should be able to play it twice

it has nothing to do with your 'approach'. Not being able to repeat your successes is not an approach, it's just a deficiency.

it will help you get a clear picture of whatever you're trying to record as well.

jaklyons 08-02-2010 03:14 PM

poo

The_Mop 08-02-2010 04:09 PM

Sup bitches.

Sonisphere owned. Especially Rammstein and Gary Numan \m/

benfan 08-02-2010 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=The_Mop;18111004]Sup bitches.

Sonisphere owned. Especially Rammstein and Gary Numan \m/[/QUOTE]

Did the stages face each other again? I went last year.

Daily Routine 08-02-2010 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=fingers mccoy;18110151]
it has nothing to do with your 'approach'. Not being able to repeat your successes is not an approach, it's just a deficiency.

it will help you get a clear picture of whatever you're trying to record as well.[/QUOTE]

no this is honestly silly, it's a deficiency only in a particular regard depending upon your intention.

like what if the focal point of my music is not necessarily a particular sequence of notes and rhythms but more the way they are played LIKE A WHOLE FUKING SH[COLOR="Black"]IT[/COLOR] LOAD OF MUSIC[I] IS[/I]

fuking try to tell me that cannonball was ever interested in repeating his sax parts in facsimile

GuitarBizarre 08-02-2010 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=Booger Tits;18111051]no this is honestly silly, it's a deficiency only in a particular regard depending upon your intention.

like what if the focal point of my music is not necessarily a particular sequence of notes and rhythms but more the way they are played LIKE A WHOLE FUKING SH[COLOR="Black"]IT[/COLOR] LOAD OF MUSIC[I] IS[/I]

fuking try to tell me that cannonball was ever interested in repeating his sax parts in facsimile[/QUOTE]

He wants to make a single track sound bigger, the best way to do that is to doubletrack it. Thats how it works. If you can't record the same thing twice, then you should have a big enough sound to begin with, or you should change it so you CAN play it twice and then doubletrack it.

Almost any other approach introduces phasing, which is bad mmkay?

Daily Routine 08-02-2010 04:57 PM

[QUOTE=GuitarBizarre;18111066]He wants to make a [B]single track[/B] sound bigger, the best way to do that is to [B]doubletrack[/B] it. [/QUOTE]

i'll let you figure our y ur dum

Kuffuffled 08-02-2010 05:14 PM

I want this song to have a vintage sort of feel to it

I COULD learn to play all my fills and **** exactly the same twice but I don't want to

There's no one way of doing things guise common

The_Mop 08-02-2010 06:23 PM

[quote=benfan;18111033]Did the stages face each other again? I went last year.[/quote]

Yeah, they were facing each other.

fingers mccoy 08-02-2010 07:18 PM

[QUOTE=Booger Tits;18111051]no this is honestly silly, it's a deficiency only in a particular regard depending upon your intention.

like what if the focal point of my music is not necessarily a particular sequence of notes and rhythms but more the way they are played LIKE A WHOLE FUKING SH[COLOR="Black"]IT[/COLOR] LOAD OF MUSIC[I] IS[/I]

fuking try to tell me that cannonball was ever interested in repeating his sax parts in facsimile[/QUOTE]

he was.

you mean cannonball adderley?

of course he was.

spirit 08-02-2010 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=Booger Tits;18111090]i'll let you figure our y ur dum[/QUOTE]

He mis-spoke, or rather mis-typed. You're being deliberately obtuse. Either you know exactly what he meant, or you're an idiot, but let me put it as it should have been for you.

[quote]
He wants to make a single [b]part[/b] sound bigger, the best way to do that is to doubletrack it.[/quote]

Blue_Moon 08-02-2010 07:45 PM

aux the balls off of it ^^

+ compressors

El-Ahrairah 08-03-2010 01:11 AM

[QUOTE=viciouscycle;18111131]I want this song to have a vintage sort of feel to it

I COULD learn to play all my fills and **** exactly the same twice but I don't want to

There's no one way of doing things guise common[/QUOTE]

you could always play two different tracks and pan them left and right, Turbonegro and The Hellacopters do that a lot, often with a "solo" track (during the whole song :lol:) and a more rhythmic one.

benfan 08-03-2010 03:10 AM

[QUOTE=The_Mop;18111243]Yeah, they were facing each other.[/QUOTE]

How did you find it? last year i liked how the times were staggered, but it was kind of annoying that all the stalls were in the middle between the stages.

fingers mccoy 08-03-2010 03:18 AM

[QUOTE=viciouscycle;18111131]I want this song to have a vintage sort of feel to it

I COULD learn to play all my fills and **** exactly the same twice but I don't want to

There's no one way of doing things guise common[/QUOTE]

replay the part, do whatever fills you want. It'll still sound good as long as you don't fiddle around too much. you don't want clashes or unprecedented and disruptive crossrhythm.

purple_hazer 08-03-2010 11:15 AM

tbf though, cannonball probably wouldve liked to know all his solos and play them note for note, but im almost certain he didnt go out of his way to figure them out. he most likely just had a loose idea of what he was doin and would rip it up


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