[CENTER][I]Cupid and Bacchus my saints are,
May drink and love still reign,
With wine I wash away my cares,
And then to cu[size=2]n[/size]t again.[/I][/CENTER]


/John Wilmot

Baudelaire died at a ripe age of 45 from asphasia or some kind of crap like that. Syphilis related I think. Died knowing he was never bored though as boredom is the greatest sin of all according to the decadents.

Sup guys, I'm sorry I haven't been so active as of lately but I've been to busy with other aspects of my life... I'll try from now on to give more feedback on your pieces. :(

I've done some writing for the first time in ages.

And its about religion again, so I guess I'll post it when I'm happy or something.

[QUOTE]
Died knowing he was never bored though as boredom is the greatest sin of all according to the decadents.[/QUOTE]

That's all well and good but I bet he got bored of the searing pain in his penis brought on by the syphillis.

I wrote about my love life trying to remove the cheese by using interstellar similes. :|

tojes i really need to talk

AIM's cool?

i dont have aim right now but how are u

I hope that you're aware I'm going to erase this conversation later :p

But I'm OK. Slightly pissed at my lack of self-care when it comes to my sentimental capacities, especially with people who care about me. I was at the border of crying because I discovered how cold and shallow I am, not to mention careless about those who honestly care about me, but I think I learned from what I've lived through, and I think I finally understood what I'm seriously lacking of.

But disregard my stupid self-absorbed rant, how are you?

im lonely and i feel worthless because i havent had a job for 2 months

I just quit my job and got an ipod but that just filled me materially, which is OK because that makes it easy to confront my sentimental lack.

I'm finding myself surrounded by more people who care about me, so I feel less lonely now than before. My girlfriend is a great support but I don't think I'm a good enough man for her, I think she needs a more stable person.

w/e tojes ur the man

why do u think they made u mod cuz YOU'RE THE MAN



i wish i had a girlfriend. some chubby hot slut wants me to go to an AA meeting with her tomorrow.... should i do it? i think she just is using that for an excuse as a date or something because she has a scene boyfriend aka gay

haha, maybe you should go, I don't know. If you don't get some butt, at least you'll have a fun experience out of it.

Hey I'll go now I'm slightly tired and my girl and I will go with a friend to farewell him because he's going back to uni; I hope things will be clearer in your life man, enjoy have fun peace out

dude u should feel confident with your girl.....

back before i knew i was ugly i was getting chicks left and right. now that i see myself as a mutilated defected piece of **** i dont get any girls cuz my confidense is down the shitter

At least you got yourself a girlfriend tojes, gg on that.

I'm lost as to what do to with this thing I've written, so I'll do a few crits and then post.

I'll review it when I have a little bit more time, I guess.

I need to find time to do that stuff. :'(

what

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I have a new non-challenge piece up. Kind of inspired by William Carlos Williams and Hugo Ball for some really weird reason.

[QUOTE]Hugo[/QUOTE]

oh em gee his name is similar to mine

haven't been critting much lately because i've been very busy being lazy

and the pub i work in shut. means i'm a poor man till i get my next student loan through.

Hugo Ball is this guy.

[url]http://www.weimarband.com/WBBF/_assets/images/BFda_HugoBallLG%20.jpg[/url]

Important to that weird literary and artistic movement no one seems to understand being Dada.

EDIT: Yes he did used to wear that suit thing outside and do his shopping iin it etc.

I want that outfit.

dada's weird, not too huge a fan, and I couldn't say I really understand it terribly well.

It was designed as a sort of anti art reaction to the horrors of the world wars or something.

Never read any dada literature though, any recommendations?

Ugh dada sucks

I read poems in my early teens and they were angsty and made no sonse for the most part to be quite honest

[url]http://www.geocities.com/allon_art/dadapoetry2.html[/url]

I don't like things that are provocative for the sakes of provocation but whatever

I don't mind dada. Once you get used to it, it can be quite a thrill.

Some dada literature? hmmmm

Gertrude Stein.
Louis Zukofsky.
William Carlos Williams dabbled a bit in this form

There is not much in the way of writers because the movement burnt out pretty quicky just like other modernist forms like cubism, objectivism etc but have left their timeless mark forever.

The point in dada is that there is no such thing as nonsense or 'no meaning' but that there is too much meaning. They strip language down to it, removing representation so that it is in its 'pure textual form'.

I don't know whether many people like this but I think it was an important movement to modernism and then to post-modernism. Apparently if we didn't have dada, we wouldn't have punk or surrealism etc.

[QUOTE=TojesDolan;15137545]I don't like things that are provocative for the sakes of provocation but whatever[/QUOTE]

sounds like [I]everything[/I] my ex wrote. i should've just read her poetry to know that i'd get cheated on, oh well.

I have to write an essay on T.S Eliot's 'The Waste Land'. Anyone have any tips coz that shiz is for real.

Dada is important because it lead to modernism. Except the latter made sense.

[SIZE="1"][QUOTE=TojesDolan;15142604]Dada is important because it lead to modernism. Except the latter made sense.[/QUOTE]

psst modernism came first, dada led to post modernism[/SIZE]

[QUOTE=RunAmokRampant;15140831]I have to write an essay on T.S Eliot's 'The Waste Land'. Anyone have any tips coz that shiz is for real.[/QUOTE]

I love Eliot. But I can't really help you seeing as there's so much to the poem. Better of going to Jstore or something and reading through a few articles.

What's the essay title?


Edit: I've decided to rethink my latest piece. I'm going to combine it with another that I was unhappy with, moving some of the subjects and lines around. Guess I'll post it soon. Either tonight or tomorrow

Sorry I haven't been very eloquent in history lately.

>.>

<.<

Bumped my piece with edit.

Just watched Memento. Such a good film. Apparently there's a feature on the DVD where you can watch the events in the right order. Not sure how helpful that'd be though :(

The essay title concern with how relevant the concepts of unity and cohesion in The waste land. I have a few ideas now and some references to f.h Bradley's 'appearance and reality' essay on metaphysics and other relevant academic essays. But any thoughts would be awesome.

I'll check it, Huw.

Merci beacoup Tojes

I've been messing around with ACID again, but more drum and bass-y kind of stuff this time. With Wu Tang and Godspeed samples.

[url]http://www.myspace.com/huwthomasmusic[/url]

Its the last one, called ShadowBox or something gay and pretentious that I can't remember.

Ezra Pound is crazy.

[QUOTE=RunAmokRampant;15151943]The essay title concern with how relevant the concepts of unity and cohesion in The waste land. I have a few ideas now and some references to f.h Bradley's 'appearance and reality' essay on metaphysics and other relevant academic essays. But any thoughts would be awesome.[/QUOTE]

Well critics have lambasted The Waste Land for years based on the seeming lack of cohesion between the ideas, and the sprawling nature of the piece. But I suppose you could argue that the poem as whole was an attempt for Eliot to find unity and cohesion in the world that surrounded him. He was having psychological difficulties at the time, so you could argue for a unity and cohesion of mind as well.

I. A. Richards wrote some things you might want to check out, and you could argue for a post-colonial sense of unity I guess.

[QUOTE=RunAmokRampant;15172676]Ezra Pound is crazy.[/QUOTE]

I want his hair

Yeah that is the reading most people get from this as an 'Impersonal' reading of the poem. Eliot was adamant in is 'Tradition and the Individual Talent' that the poetry should always be separate from the poet, so I don't know whether to be taking out a social context from the poem is best approach. But I think there is a lot of stuff concerning the First World War and themes like death and re-birth are really prevalent in the text for discussion. I find it funny that this poem is considered one the greatest poems in the 20th century and Eliot's response to his own poetry and to the criticism was that The Wasteland was a mere 'piece of rhythmical grumbling'. lol

I read some early drafts of this poem, Pound cut out a buttload of material.

I'm too drunk to comment on the first paragraph right now, but yeah, pound cut a load of stuf from the draft.

His hair makes up for it though.

[IMG]http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/pound/pound.gif[/IMG]

On another subject: I bought a load of vinyl records today

Charity shops + 5 lps for £1 = win

i want a ****ing big avatar

[IMG]http://greggsutter.com/mt/archives/ezrapoundbooking.jpg[/IMG]

I find this one more humourous. It's in my text book lol.

He reminds me of an old and angry Will Ferrell

With a beard.