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Rising 07-23-2005 02:56 PM

how come that when ozzy played with the band , Sabbath was not thrash like you know ?, dont get me wrong, they were great with ozzy,
but i heard some stuff without ozzy and it was really thrasher metal, how come they changed their style of metal when ozzy came ?

Brew 07-23-2005 03:07 PM

I guess it all depended on the band members at the time.

For instance, when Cozy Powell was with them, he was known for being quite a fast drummer which is why they did quite a few faster songs with him.

What songs have you heard without Ozzy?

iBENezrocker 07-23-2005 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=starappletheory]I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti[/QUOTE]

It was opnly a matter of time before some one found it absolutely nessacery to compare Zep to Sabbath. It really gets on my **** when people do that. They came from the same era,and played hard rock but thats where the similarities end.Black Sabbath, theyre "debut" if you like is so different from Communication breakdown.To show you how different they are listen to these songs Hows this for similarity

Wheels Of Confusion - Tangerine
Paranoid - Livin' Lovin Maid
Black Sabbath - Gallows Pole
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - Trampled Underfoot

You get the idea, there are one or two songs that sound similar, but its not fair to compare 'em. Both equally great in their own ways.

Brew 07-23-2005 04:30 PM

Both are great, but Sabbath are the greatest :p

rippa32 07-23-2005 08:25 PM

Although you have to admit zeppelin has much more talent. And on the topic of 70's hard rock does anyone listen to uriah heep? I just downloaded Gypsy its bloody awesome.

shadow_stalker 07-25-2005 03:39 AM

Never heard of them


My bro is getting me either silence or eliptica for my birthday :thumb:

rippa32 07-25-2005 04:00 AM

[QUOTE=iBENezrocker]It was opnly a matter of time before some one found it absolutely nessacery to compare Zep to Sabbath. It really gets on my **** when people do that. They came from the same era,and played hard rock but thats where the similarities end.Black Sabbath, theyre "debut" if you like is so different from Communication breakdown.To show you how different they are listen to these songs Hows this for similarity

Wheels Of Confusion - Tangerine
Paranoid - Livin' Lovin Maid
Black Sabbath - Gallows Pole
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - Trampled Underfoot

You get the idea, there are one or two songs that sound similar, but its not fair to compare 'em. Both equally great in their own ways.[/QUOTE]

I don't think Paranoid sounds anything like Livin Lovin Maid or that Sabbath Bloody Sabbath sounds like Trampled Underfoot. I cant judge the other two cos i havnt heard em.

Brew 07-25-2005 08:00 AM

Paranoid sounds like Dazed and Confused, well...they both have a similar riff at one point.

I'm thinking about doing a FA on Sabbath soon...I'm not sure whether to just cover the Ozz years or do their entire career.

Suggestions?

AA-12 07-25-2005 08:02 AM

I suggest entire career. The FA's are usually there to inform people of the overall band, so doing only Ozzy would take away from it.

ATM 07-25-2005 09:37 AM

[QUOTE=Lord Brummington]Paranoid sounds like Dazed and Confused, well...they both have a similar riff at one point.

I'm thinking about doing a FA on Sabbath soon...I'm not sure whether to just cover the Ozz years or do their entire career.

Suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Doing the entire career will allow you to tell the story of what happened, etc

I'd be interested in learning why Ozzy stopped singing for Sabbath.

Brew 07-25-2005 11:36 AM

I'll start writing it later probably, but it might not be posted here for a good few weeks yet.

TerryThorne 07-25-2005 01:43 PM

Anyone know where I could find Sabbath videos?

Brew 07-25-2005 01:44 PM

Limewire/Winmx etc...

You after music videos or live concert videos?

TerryThorne 07-25-2005 01:46 PM

both actually, mostly just to see Geezer play

Brew 07-25-2005 01:52 PM

I may have one or two music videos somewhere, I'll have a look and upload them if I have.

Josh 07-25-2005 02:23 PM

bumped to kill spam one 1st page...

i listened to When Death Calls for the first time in a while today, awesome song...

Brew 07-25-2005 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=sack-man]bumped to kill spam one 1st page...

i listened to When Death Calls for the first time in a while today, awesome song...[/QUOTE]

*dum du du dum dum dum*

''When Death Calls!''

Good song :)

Ok...this isn't a music video of Sabbath, but its still funny to watch.

[URL=http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2T79Q56VQRU3D28L4WHPH4HQIJ]Black Sabbath Cartoon[/URL]

TerryThorne 07-25-2005 02:35 PM

that's pretty funny to see animated black sabbath

Josh 07-25-2005 02:42 PM

that cartoon was just awesome. you got any more?

Brew 07-25-2005 02:49 PM

Nah, to my knowledge thats the only one that was made.

I seem to have deleted my other Sabbath videos (I had Die Young and Neon Knights at one point) which is a bit of a bum.

shadow_stalker 07-25-2005 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Brummington]Paranoid sounds like Dazed and Confused, well...they both have a similar riff at one point.

I'm thinking about doing a FA on Sabbath soon...I'm not sure whether to just cover the Ozz years or do their entire career.

Suggestions?[/QUOTE]

You could do like on teh story of dvds/videos, do part 1 ozzy (maybe early dio) then part 2 post ozzy.

That cartoon was bloody odd to say the least

Brew 07-25-2005 03:54 PM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]You could do like on teh story of dvds/videos, do part 1 ozzy (maybe early dio) then part 2 post ozzy.[/QUOTE]

Thats kinda what I was thinking of doing.

Even if it doesn't end up being an ''Official'' FA I'll still make a thread, something like ''Brums History of Hard Rocks Greatest Band''

shadow_stalker 07-25-2005 04:09 PM

Would work.

woot 17 in 51 mins

rippa32 07-26-2005 03:04 AM

Hey that was a great cartoon Brum. Where did you get it?

Brew 07-26-2005 08:27 AM

I found it on Winmx sometime last year.

rippa32 07-27-2005 01:49 AM

Nice, I liked what they did with Bill. Anyhoo I was wandering if it would be worth getting the Black Box shipped from America (I live in Australia).

shadow_stalker 07-27-2005 05:01 AM

Jesus ripper what the f[B][I][/I][/B]uck is your new avatar? it scared the **** outa me!

How much would it cost to get it shipped?


ok i had to post this link because the smilies amuse me, [url]http://streamin-dio2.darktech.org/Enter_1/Non_DIO/The_Music/BlackSabbathOzzy/0zzySabbath.html[/url]

rippa32 07-27-2005 05:19 AM

Its not the shipping that bothers me, I just dont want it getting lost in the mail or something. And my avatar is Uriah Heeps first album cover. Its even better seeing it on the record cover.

Brew 07-27-2005 07:33 AM

I thought about getting The Black Box the other day.

I need some money though.

Klander Brigade 07-27-2005 07:51 AM

I saw them last night at Ozzfest for the second time. This was their better of the two performances. Great stuff


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