[QUOTE=Atman]i love watching the guitar forum try to argue about politics

you guys would get slain so hard in the actual pnwi forum :lol:[/QUOTE]

pretty much

I read through there occasionally, and these arguments are really lame in comparison.

[QUOTE=Atman]i love watching the guitar forum try to argue about politics

you guys would get slain so hard in the actual pnwi forum :lol:[/QUOTE]

i could handle myself on politics, I studied it for A level history, boring as hell though.

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]

i had my first pair of skates at 6. Though i didnt start till i was about 16. My friend, who moved away, actually had a skate park built in his barn by a former skateboard pro name Chad Kramer[/QUOTE]

awesome. i started skating at like. i guess like 10. i had built like ramps and sh¡t to go off, wanted to build a pipe in my backyard, but that never happened. haha.

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]i agree, miainly because people have figured out how to import drugs because they have had time to work it out. On their own customs and the police will never stop the drug trade completely, the only way it has a chance of being stopped is if the general public informed the police constantly about drug trade. But that puts the public at risk from the drug dealers. But the only way to prevent is for the public to 'grass'

btw OT how old are you?[/QUOTE]
I disagree entirely, the first step if doomed in the long run, imo, to removing illegal drugs would be to no longer make them illegal. Regulation ensues.

Police and authority groups can then target more forcefully remaining drug dealers/suppliers/growers etc
Many will have already been forced out of business by the legalisation.
From this governments can then begin to reduce supply and through various mediums decrease demand for the drugs in question and in the end wipeout the problem.

Of course this would require HUGE amounts of investment over many, many years and has various side effects such as unemployment increase and in the short term standards decrease.
The amount of investment would need to be of equal measure to both improve and expand current prison and healthcare systems. As well as focus attention on agricultural areas and "inner city" problem areas where these problems are so commonly stero typed. Investment would also have to be on a global scale with close to every nation agreeing on policies.

All of which, won't in the short run work out. Many governments are corrupt from drugs trade as such they would not agree which would insight war on varied levels.

Lastly the sheer time scale that any idea such as the above (which would, in theory, economically work) to complete it'd would take several lifetimes. Which would demand that governments maintain policies over many years. Again, something which would be very unlikely to happen.


And 18.

[QUOTE=Atman]you guys would get slain so hard in the actual pnwi forum[/QUOTE][U]Everyone[/U] has a right to an opinion over politics mate. Whether they would get "slain" or not is besides the point.
There is no easy answer in politics anyway, nothing can be that clear cut as solution 1 > solution 2. Every political policy has its fair share of faults and governments differ from nation to nation. Ideas from my point of view would differ from yours due purely to your location.

[QUOTE=overturned][U]Everyone[/U] has a right to an opinion over politics mate. Whether they would get "slain" or not is besides the point.
There is no easy answer in politics anyway, nothing can be that clear cut as solution 1 > solution 2. Every political policy has its fair share of faults and governments differ from nation to nation. Ideas from my point of view would differ from yours due purely to your location.[/QUOTE]

when did i say everyone didn't have a right to an opinion?

i'm just saying that the level of discussion being carried out in here is, for the most part, laughable

this is where people can yell at me for being an elitist douche bag or whatever

*shrug*

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]i could handle myself on politics, I studied it for A level history, boring as hell though.[/QUOTE]

reading your posts, no you can't

[QUOTE=Atman]when did i say everyone didn't have a right to an opinion?

i'm just saying that the level of discussion being carried out in here is, for the most part, laughable

this is where people can yell at me for being an elitist douche bag or whatever

*shrug*
[/QUOTE]
Fair play on the first point, I generalised your comment a little too much, you elitist douche bag.

[QUOTE=overturned]Fair play on the first point, I generalised your comment a little too much, you elitist douche bag.[/QUOTE]

people in here get too caught up on tangential semantics and a lot of the statements made are based on extremely flawed perceptions of fundamental concepts

that isn't to say it doesn't happen in the pnwi forums (it does a lot actually), but there is definitely a bigger presence of user self-moderation on discussion

[QUOTE=Atman]when did i say everyone didn't have a right to an opinion?

i'm just saying that the level of discussion being carried out in here is, for the most part, laughable

this is where people can yell at me for being an elitist douche bag or whatever

*shrug*



reading your posts, no you can't[/QUOTE]

yes, I can, I was expressing my view on an issue, therefore, politics.

I was doing well, i was able to express my opinion and back it up with facts. Now that is good politics.

[QUOTE=Atman]people in here get too caught up on [B]tangential semantics[/B] and a lot of the statements made are based on extremely flawed perceptions of fundamental concepts[/QUOTE]
what?

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]yes, I can, I was expressing my view on an issue, therefore, politics.

I was doing well, i was able to express my opinion and back it up with facts. Now that is good politics.[/QUOTE]

there are so many places where your posts could be picked apart and reduced that i don't even know what to rebut first

[QUOTE=Timm]what?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=tangential[/url]

Like, related subjects. "Going off on tangents" so to speak, I think anyway.

Hmm, almost.

[QUOTE=Atman]there are so many places where your posts could be picked apart and reduced that i don't even know what to rebut first



[url]http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=tangential[/url][/QUOTE]
hehe mx died on me and I could think of it myself in the mean time. just had to remember what a tangent is. oh how I loved maths :-/
thanks anyway though :-)

[QUOTE=Atman]there are so many places where your posts could be picked apart and reduced that i don't even know what to rebut first
[/QUOTE]

go on then

Sup guys?

Anyone remember the website where you could draw an animation on like a drawing board (duh!) and then send it out to people? Its buggin the hell outta me.

ms paint + email?

oh wait you mean animation

animation program + email

:-)

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]go on then[/QUOTE]

your entire argument is fundamentally flawed

if you can't see this

no amount of explanation on my part can help you

[QUOTE=Father_Jack]Sup guys?

Anyone remember the website where you could draw an animation on like a drawing board (duh!) and then send it out to people? Its buggin the hell outta me.[/QUOTE]
Aha I remember that thing, can't remember the name though.

Not smoking at all > hookah > cigarettes

So I make 20 untaxed dollars an hour giving guitar lessons now, and I turned 18 couple month ago. Everyone who eva told anyone u gonna get nowher playin guitar, go eat some dick. Follow ur dreamz.


Sup guys

nm, haven't seen you on here in forever tbh

Sup josh

Sup wylde

Sup OT

Sup Amit

Sup Timm

Sup Father_Jack

Sup Roger_waters

how be all of thee?

[QUOTE=overturned]Aha I remember that thing, can't remember the name though.[/QUOTE]


Yeah its really annoying me. I having to use the sh[SIZE="2"]it[/SIZE]ty msn drawing thing.




Sup Mop.

I be ace, how be thee?

Bored.

Nothing to do 'round here excpet do the emecks thing and play Eternal Darkness through for a third time, immediatly after completing it for the second time yesterday *slaps forehead*

I may have to run over to b3ta for a while....

[QUOTE=Atman]your entire argument is fundamentally flawed

if you can't see this

no amount of explanation on my part can help you[/QUOTE]

My argument is actually a good argument, backed up with fact with clear argumetns asking questions that weren't asnwered because they couldn't be answered. And you stated in your post that there were so many errors, yer I could not see any and asked you to point them out. You haven't, which leads me to assume that you can't, meaning my argument was actually pretty darn good.

Ok im out now, time for bed coz im shagged.

Goodnight :wave:

Seems like a bit of a bad time to say hello.

night father_jack

sup american football

i'm gonna go to bedsky now as well, its late and still have school tomorrow.

Night mx

I'm having my ears syringed tomorrow. :thumb:

Anyone ever had it done?

[QUOTE=americanfootball]I'm having my ears syringed tomorrow. :thumb:

Anyone ever had it done?[/QUOTE]

yeah nothing to worry about, not painful, they say syringed, its just someone squirting stuff into your ear wax, its cool. And you can hear awesomely afterwards!

Ear syringing wtf?!


My Ibanez will get here tomorrow morning, dad won't be home, expect lots of pics, maybe even a video!