[QUOTE=I_go_by_mikee]that is all opinion for the most part though.

unhealthy, yes.
costs lots of money, not if they want it. some people use smoking to help them relax and keep their mind off stuff, just like some of us use music/guitar.
a cd, costs 3 packs of ciggerettes generally.
alot of women isnt true, because a majority of my friends that are women smoke.
some people enjoy the smell of ciggerettes, there are some that i don't mind the smell of, but i myself dont smoke.
opens you up to a whole bunch of diseases, i guess. but you can get a disease from anything almost.[/QUOTE]

i would like you to justify why someone would smoke a cigaratte knowing that it increase the risk of Lung Cancer, Throat Cancer, Tongue Cancer, Bronchitis, Emphysema, a substantial tar build up in their lungs and a huge increased risk on Heart Disease and heart attack. These are not opinions, they are fact. Saying that you need to take them to relax is not an excuse because there are other ways to do it.

yo roger

chill out dude

I saw this anti-smoking video and there was a guy with fuzzy stuff growing on his tongue.

i justify smoking because i really dont care what i could possibly to do to me. I dont live my life based on eventualities and hypothetical situations

meh. you only live once. if you want to smoke because it makes you feel better then why not.
have you ever read the possible side effects to tylenol? there would be no tylenol sold or taken.

everything has a side effect in some way. some more crucial then others.

[QUOTE=Atman]yo roger

chill out dude[/QUOTE]

I would if people stopped being so ignorant towards the effects of smoking and what they are doing to themselves. They keep making excuses as to why they smoke which are ridiculous in comparison. If they say that then I will laugh when they die at 46 due to lung cancer.

I only smoke pot every now and then.


Oh, and my shisha pipe just about as frequently.


I'm a bit of a hypocrite aren't I? :|

decent sex > high quality pot

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]Saying that you need to take them to relax is not an excuse because there are other ways to do it.[/QUOTE]
why do you want a blow job there's other ways to ejaculate



can we stop that smoke discussion it's getting boring.

new topic:

um...

uh....

silly phrases!

kurrpt'd you start!

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]i justify smoking because i really dont care what i could possibly to do to me. I dont live my life based on eventualities and hypothetical situations[/QUOTE]

you are an idiot, you must have a seriously low IQ to make yourself believe that

there amit goes talking about things he doesn't know about again

jk


i don't think too highly of kurrpt anyways so i'm not gonna worry about this

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]I would if people stopped being so ignorant towards the effects of smoking and what they are doing to themselves. They keep making excuses as to why they smoke which are ridiculous in comparison. If they say that then I will laugh when they die at 46 due to lung cancer.[/QUOTE]


meh dude, you do gotta chill
until you smoke, you'll never know the reason people stop and start. you just assume.

you cant look down on every possible thing. theres a bright side to everything. making you feel better. etc.

i agree with kurpt. you cant just live life assuming what could happen.

you gotta take chances. do what you want. not let some information rule your life.

just because you smoke doesnt guarentee anything. I could die tomorrow on my way to work in my car. Do I make decisions based on this possibility? Hell no.


Do i understand the possible risks involved when i decide to throw myself down a 20 stair handrail on skates with no helmet or pads? Of course. Do i still do it anyway? You're god damned right.

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]you are an idiot, you must have a seriously low IQ to make yourself believe that[/QUOTE]
wouldn't he have an extremely high IQ if he was capable of making himself believe "such bulls[SIZE="2"]h[/SIZE]it"


any way the new topic is silly phrases :smash:

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]just because you smoke doesnt guarentee anything. I could die tomorrow on my way to work in my car. Do I make decisions based on this possibility? Hell no.


Do i understand the possible risks involved when i decide to throw myself down a 20 stair handrail on skates with no helmet or pads? Of course. Do i still do it anyway? You're god damned right.[/QUOTE]


you rollerblade mang?

i did for a tad bit, jumped off something fairly high, and with crap skates the whole impact i felt haha.

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]you are an idiot, you must have a seriously low IQ to make yourself believe that[/QUOTE]



Sure, i could go on proving my intelligence, or shoot down your already flawed OPINION but it really doesn't do anyone any amount of good. If you have to justify my stance by making petty attacks, i think it says less about you. Considering that fact, I dont think i need to address this at all considering you've already done enough ;)



edit : yea man. Ive skated with more pros than i have fingers and toes. Its the greatest high/rush than i could compare to any drug, alcohol, or even sex.

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]Sure, i could go on proving my intelligence, or shoot down your already flawed OPINION but it really doesn't do anyone any amount of good. If you have to justify my stance by making petty attacks, i think it says less about you. Considering that fact, I dont think i need to address this at all considering you've already done enough ;)[/QUOTE]

I find it humourous how you find all the facts I have stated as someones opinion. If you would care to read previous posts you will see a read off a long list of diseases you can get from smoking.

[QUOTE=Atman]decent sex > high quality pot[/QUOTE]


hmm... i JUST caught this statement, and i could really argue each point back and forth all day...



you start :D


edit : the possible side effects are proven. Your rationale based on these possible effects are, by definition, your own conclusion drawn from you personal experiences or viewpoints. Sounds like an opinion to me

lol Kurrpt is a fruitbooter

[QUOTE=ricardo]lol Kurrpt is a fruitbooter[/QUOTE]


my crew moved away awhile ago. I might actually get back into in the near future

[QUOTE=Swim]Roger, what are your views on drugs and cannabis?

Sorry, it's got to be done...:lol:[/QUOTE]

not as strong as smoking, mainly because when I go out I don't see people smoking pot etc. None of my friends do drugs, I'm not someone who does that.
But I would still discourage people from doing drugs, the mental effects can be horrendous. As are the physical effects

haha. im mainly a skateboarder, but rollerblading always seemed like an awesome sport to me.

i actually find it cooler then skateboarding, but i suck at rollerblading so skateboarding was like yer.

and biking was just like. i dunno, i was always a little dude build wise, so biking was like. a heavier thing. haha.

+ it took alot of control.


[IMG]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d135/i_go_by_mikee/100_8788.jpg[/IMG]

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my pwn as[I]s[/I] board.

the funny thing is Roger Waters is that i used to say this SAME sh!t to my mom when i was little and had no idea about anything. It wasnt until i exposed myself to it that i was able to understand it from both sides of the fence/coin. Its pretty obvious that you haven't encountered the other side, which is find, but stop pretending you have it ALL FIGURED OUT.

Haha nice. I've been skateboarding like 6 years. I don't really like rollerblading but if they are doing some crazy sh1t then I can respect that.

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]not as strong as smoking, mainly because when I go out I don't see people smoking pot etc. None of my friends do drugs, I'm not someone who does that.
But I would still discourage people from doing drugs, the mental effects can be horrendous. As are the physical effects[/QUOTE]
I would regard drugs as a far bigger problem on the whole for one huge reason.

Illegal drugs trade and consumption CANNOT be regulated. I mean we've seen your views on smoking and by all effects, over the long run smoking can actually be stoped. However, the timescale to take out drugs completely is far larger. In the long run, illegal drugs are a far bigger problem.

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]hmm... i JUST caught this statement, and i could really argue each point back and forth all day...



you start :D


edit : the possible side effects are proven. Your rationale based on these possible effects are, by definition, your own conclusion drawn from you personal experiences or viewpoints. Sounds like an opinion to me[/QUOTE]

incorrect, stating a fact is not an opinion. It is stating a fact, how you interpret can possibly make it an opinion. But the reason I was stating these facts was to show you that smoking is bad for your health. You say I was using these facts as a way of backing up my opinion which is right but how on earth any person can say that smoking is healthy because increasing your chance of Heart Disese is just an idiot. SO therefore I was using these facts to prove a fact which also happens to be an opinion because it is correct.

Opinions can be correct, they are not always wrong.

i love watching the guitar forum try to argue about politics

you guys would get slain so hard in the actual pnwi forum :lol:

[QUOTE=Swim]that's sick

shame about the pink though[/QUOTE]


yer i didnt like it too much at first, but i guess it grew on me. i bought the deck for like 5 bucks, put some ventures on there [ what tony hawk had on his sig boards when he used powell peralta] love tensors though.

and then i more recently put my flip wheels on it, because im using it as my main board and i had some cheap old school wheels on there.

[QUOTE=overturned]I would regard drugs as a far bigger problem on the whole for one huge reason.

Illegal drugs trade and consumption CANNOT be regulated. I mean we've seen your views on smoking and by all effects, over the long run smoking can actually be stoped. However, the timescale to take out drugs completely is far larger. In the long run, illegal drugs are a far bigger problem.[/QUOTE]

i agree, miainly because people have figured out how to import drugs because they have had time to work it out. On their own customs and the police will never stop the drug trade completely, the only way it has a chance of being stopped is if the general public informed the police constantly about drug trade. But that puts the public at risk from the drug dealers. But the only way to prevent is for the public to 'grass'

btw OT how old are you?

no one tried to say smoking was good for your health. What the hell are you talking about


i had my first pair of skates at 6. Though i didnt start till i was about 16. My friend, who moved away, actually had a skate park built in his barn by a former skateboard pro name Chad Kramer