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twopelu 12-10-2006 05:45 PM

I wanted to ask if you think Sabian XS20 are well suited cymbals for pop music... the thing is that I want to upgrade my set and I can afford a complete XS20 set. Any opinion? thx!

P.S. I hope this was the correct place for my question.

Panopticon 12-10-2006 06:11 PM

[quote=twopelu;13793488]I wanted to ask if you think Sabian XS20 are well suited cymbals for pop music... the thing is that I want to upgrade my set and I can afford a complete XS20 set. Any opinion? thx!

P.S. I hope this was the correct place for my question.[/quote]

they are great cymbals for the price but you can get better

Inkstar 12-10-2006 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=groooven_is_fun;13789698]Hi
Im probably gonna buy a kit that comes with paiste 201 bronze cymbals. are these good? thanks[/QUOTE]

They're low end cymbals, if it's your first kit and you're just starting out then they'll be fine. :)

AlexPlaysDrums 12-10-2006 06:42 PM

Hey im looking for some new hi hats. The sound i really want is a fusion between the following bands.
Blink 182(The fallen interlude)
Saosin
And Bayside.

I guess what im looking for is when i close them they get a nice loud chick sound. And doing open hits a nice blending tone, mainly like the guy from bayside.

drummguy731 12-10-2006 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=maniac0796;13791835]thin hi hats, like, from medium to thin.

Any suggestions. Only ones i can find are istanbul med's[/QUOTE]

K Hybrids are thin, and they're awesome!!!!

HeLLmO 12-10-2006 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=AlexPlaysDrums;13794022]Hey im looking for some new hi hats. The sound i really want is a fusion between the following bands.
Blink 182(The fallen interlude)
Saosin
And Bayside.

I guess what im looking for is when i close them they get a nice loud chick sound. And doing open hits a nice blending tone, mainly like the guy from bayside.[/QUOTE]

get A Customs, but NOT the mastersounds

Inkstar 12-10-2006 09:01 PM

A Mastersounds > Custom Mastersounds

AlexPlaysDrums 12-10-2006 09:27 PM

Wait so which ones?

Inkstar 12-10-2006 09:31 PM

I don't know what he's saying, but I'd recommend New Beats or Mastersounds.

Brokensticks 12-10-2006 10:37 PM

He means A Mastersounds before Custom Mastersounds.

Inkstar 12-11-2006 01:51 AM

Good. gg.

twopelu 12-11-2006 05:40 AM

[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;13793741]they are great cymbals for the price but you can get better[/QUOTE]

Surely I could get better ones but what about in that price range and suited for pop music? 300-400 euros, not more.

(Ive found a XS20 set which includes crash 16, crash 18, ride 20 and hihat 14 for 350 euros, its somewhat a bargain!).

the_pure_drummer 12-11-2006 10:18 AM

Please could someone tell me the meinl comparisons to the sabian lines?

Im gona be buying a splash soon and meinl have 40% off instore so im going for a meinl probably, and id just like to know not what to buy!

Cheers in advance!

Drum Phil 12-11-2006 12:24 PM

So i wish to go for one of the following:

18" Paiste Rude thin crash
18" Z Custom China
18" A Custom crash
19" AAXtreme China

Cast votes now.

oliv_da_skinmasher 12-11-2006 01:28 PM

The rude.

but get the Crash/ride instead. it's amazing i have the 17"

Snarz 12-11-2006 01:29 PM

[QUOTE]Please could someone tell me the meinl comparisons to the sabian lines?

[/QUOTE]

I'd like to these too.

Drum Phil 12-11-2006 01:44 PM

[quote=oliv_da_skinmasher;13798530]The rude.

but get the Crash/ride instead. it's amazing i have the 17"[/quote]

No.

I dislike heavy cymbals.

oliv_da_skinmasher 12-11-2006 01:48 PM

Fair enough. still go for the rude. they are good cymbals

DrummingNinja 12-11-2006 02:00 PM

Any thoughts on what cymbals are the most complex?

Also I heard that some drummers back in the day used to bury their cymbals for a week or two when they bought them new, to age them? How does it affect the sound?

Zildjian 12-11-2006 02:04 PM

I think K hybrids are the most complex. When you hit them there bright and loud, then the overtones are dark. ITs an amaizing cymbal

And I dont know about burying cymbals. Id try it but its snowing and I dont have a coat :/

raz0r 12-11-2006 02:52 PM

[QUOTE=DrummingNinja;13798807]Any thoughts on what cymbals are the most complex?

Also I heard that some drummers back in the day used to bury their cymbals for a week or two when they bought them new, to age them? How does it affect the sound?[/QUOTE]

Burying cymbals would only make a difference if you buried them for at least 6 months, at the very least.
In short, it's not worth it.

drummguy731 12-11-2006 03:02 PM

That's just like when drummers take sand paper to brand new coated heads, it'll make it sound a little more aged, but definately not as much as playing them to get them aged

Aaron 12-11-2006 03:10 PM

[quote=Drum Phil;13798194]19" AAXtreme China[/quote]
this

Tim 12-11-2006 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=Aaron;13799457]this[/QUOTE]

i second this.










in all seriousness that thing is awesome. I believe Jojo uses it as well.

HeLLmO 12-11-2006 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=Inkstar;13795372]I don't know what he's saying, but I'd recommend New Beats or Mastersounds.[/QUOTE]

i'm sayin' regular A Custom hats own the A Custom mastersounds


but in all seriousness, quick beats own mostly every other set of hi hats in the zildjian cymbal collection IMO

A_Guy 12-11-2006 08:12 PM

Ok, so I need to buy a new crash, and I'm going for a darker one that would be used to ride occasionaly (a la Kyuss). I'm looking at a 17" K Custom Dark Crash. Good choice?

drummguy731 12-11-2006 08:13 PM

OOOOO, nice cymbal man! Those things are sooo nice

Inkstar 12-11-2006 11:40 PM

Yep, K Dark Crash's are fantastic.

Snarz 12-12-2006 05:25 AM

[QUOTE=Snarz;13798537]I'd like to these too.[/QUOTE]

...

Jred250 12-12-2006 06:34 AM

Has anyone heard the new Meinl MCS series. They currently only have 3 cymbals in that series. Which can only be obtained in there box set.
I have been offered a Meinl MCS 20'' ride for £60 from one of my e-bay sellers. He recently sold me a Meinl Classic 18'' China. He said he is getting new cymbals for christmas and will no longer need it. Apparantly he has not used it as he has a Meinl Classic Flat ride 20'' also. In which is not for sale.

I have listened the the Meinl MCS 20'' Ride on the Meinl website. It sounds pingy with medium sustain. It sound quite heavy also. But they don't always sound as they do on the website. I know its made from B8 alloy also.

Any thoughts or opinions on this will be much appreciated.


This is the description of the MCS series box.

The new MCS CYMBAL SET-UP contains a 14" medium hihat, a 16" medium crash and a 20" medium ride. All specially harmonically matched for the most musical sound. Ready to rock right out of the box.


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