just cause ringo isnt a flashy drummer doesnt mean he isnt good, he kept a steady beat, didnt try to out do himself, he did exactly what a drummer should do, and drummers that can actually keep a beat are becoming ever more rare.
the beatles were virtuoso song writers without a doubt....

[QUOTE=JonG]But George is incredibly talented.[/QUOTE]
yeah you have to give george a lot of credit, he was the most artful soloist i have ever heard, hendrix and clapton were incredible and on a completely different level technically, but harrison just sounded so natural and right... except on all you need is love, its beyond me what happened there.

[QUOTE=JonG]But George is incredibly talented.[/QUOTE]

yeaok.

[QUOTE=rojo01]just cause ringo isnt a flashy drummer doesnt mean he isnt good, he kept a steady beat, didnt try to out do himself, he did exactly what a drummer should do, and drummers that can actually keep a beat are becoming ever more rare.
the beatles were virtuoso song writers without a doubt....[/QUOTE]

123 man, 123.

[QUOTE=Britton]When did this interview take place?

And no you don't have to be incredibly talantad to have a great band[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about? I never said the Beatles weren't a great band, I'm just saying that Ringo is hardly one of the best drummers of his time period.

[QUOTE=Lunch]What are you talking about? I never said the Beatles weren't a great band, I'm just saying that Ringo is hardly one of the best drummers of his time period.[/QUOTE]

Every band needs a member that isn't very flashy, one who is just happy to be there, and thats Ringo. He kept a quick, up-tempo beat and never did any flashy drum solo's. Above all else, he was a key part of the Beatles. Would it have worked as well with "John Paul George and insert horrible name here?"

Alot of people like to say Ringo was a poor drummer whilst only looking back into the 60's. What most people dont realize is that he grew and became and even better drummer. You can hear in alot of the later albums (The White Album, Abbey Road & Let it Be) that he really stepped his drumming up a notch. Songs specifically like "Helter Skelter" "Yer Blues" "Ive Got a Feeling" and "Oh Darling" really show his true ability. Theres still a handful of other songs.

Also, I saw Mr. McCartney in columbus Ohio on the 22nd of October, and let me just say, it was the most incredible performance i have ever seen. 3 hours, non stop, no intermitions, just straight live hits.

Some of the noteables were "Fixing a hole" (Done solo on piano) "I will" (solo Acoustic) "Please Please Me" and "Helter Skelter". I highly suggest buying the DvD when it comes out. Youll thank yourself for doing so.
(Or you could always buy a bootleg tape off of Ebay)

[QUOTE=Magical_Mystery_Tour]Every band needs a member that isn't very flashy, one who is just happy to be there, and thats Ringo. He kept a quick, up-tempo beat and never did any flashy drum solo's. Above all else, he was a key part of the Beatles. Would it have worked as well with "John Paul George and insert horrible name here?"[/QUOTE]
Probably. If Ringo had never been in it, John Paul George and Pete would've been the names. Why does the name matter at all?

Ringo is probably one of the best drummers in terms keeping time. His style was very simple but he kept time and fit in perfectly with the music.

George was the most instrumentally talented Beatle IMO, he was great at so many instruments. Paul was a great bassist and a great pianist. He also played guitar and as previously mentioned, drummed on Back in the USSR. John was a very solid musician, but was not as instrumentally talented as George and Paul. Then you have to factor in songwriting talent.

Hi everybody! I'm new here but have always loved reading your views!..
I would like to point out that Paul McCartney actually may have recorded a few of the drum tracks for Ringo. Paul can play all instruments also in one interview John was asked "Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?" and John replied as a joke, "He isn't even the best drummer in the band!"

[QUOTE=robo2448]George was the most instrumentally talented Beatle IMO, he was great at so many instruments. Paul was a great bassist and a great pianist. He also played guitar and as previously mentioned, drummed on Back in the USSR. John was a very solid musician, but was not as instrumentally talented as George and Paul. Then you have to factor in songwriting talent.[/QUOTE]

While I love George just as much as the next guy, and would consider him the best guitarist in the band, Paul could play a ton of instruments. His first solo album featured him on every instrument. The only other person on the record was Linda McCartney helping with some backing vocals.

George Harrison was great. But John Lennon on the other hand is a really good person to look up to.

[QUOTE]except on all you need is love, its beyond me what happened there.[/QUOTE]

I think that was a Lennon/McCartney thing, not Harrison.

[QUOTE=magicbus]While I love George just as much as the next guy, and would consider him the best guitarist in the band, Paul could play a ton of instruments. His first solo album featured him on every instrument. The only other person on the record was Linda McCartney helping with some backing vocals.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't George play like, 40+ instruments? I'm sure he could've done a solo release with himself on every instrument as well.

I like the guitar solo on [I]All You Need is Love[/I]...

My favorite song is Maxwell's Silver Hammer, it's neato.

I need recommendations on songs that sound like Happiness Is a Warm Gum, and/or songs that mainly use the singer that had the lyrics:

"I need a fix cause I'm going down
Down to the bits that I left uptown
I need a fix cause I'm going down"

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Couldn't George play like, 40+ instruments? I'm sure he could've done a solo release with himself on every instrument as well.

I like the guitar solo on [I]All You Need is Love[/I]...[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't have been bad if it hadn't stopped spontaniously.

Sure, it's kind of abrupt, but I like it.

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]I need recommendations on songs that sound like Happiness Is a Warm Gum, and/or songs that mainly use the singer that had the lyrics:

"I need a fix cause I'm going down
Down to the bits that I left uptown
I need a fix cause I'm going down"[/QUOTE]

Songs that mainly use the singer that had the lyrics? What are you talking about? Do you mean songs that have the same singer as who wrote the lyrics. That's pretty much every Beatles song on and after Rubber Soul.

And about Ringo;
1.) He is a good drummer
2.) His got a very loveable personality and got along great with the other Beatles, Pete did not get along as well, for all we know Pete could have decreased the length of the beatles career.
3.) Without Ringo we would be missing a few great Beatle songs. John and Paul wrote some songs specifically with Ringo in mind! And also we cant forget Don't Pass Me By, and Octopus Garden.

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]
3.) Without Ringo we would be missing a few great Beatle songs. John and Paul wrote some songs specifically with Ringo in mind! And also we cant forget Don't Pass Me By, and Octopus Garden.[/QUOTE]

And With A Little Help From My Friends, I like that sogn so much, and without him we wouldn't have the Joe Cocker version of that song, which is also very good.

And don't forget his drumwork in, A Day In The Life
suberb :)

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]I need recommendations on songs that sound like Happiness Is a Warm Gum, and/or songs that mainly use the singer that had the lyrics:

"I need a fix cause I'm going down
Down to the bits that I left uptown
I need a fix cause I'm going down"[/QUOTE]

Songs that follow a similar structure to Hapiness:
"Paranoid Android" by Radiohead
"Band on te Run" by Paul McCartney and Wings

No idea what you're wanting for the second part. Other songs written by John Lennon? Other songs that have the same lyrics as Hapiness is a Warm Gun? Help me out here cause neither of those requests seem to make a lot of sense.

[QUOTE]And With A Little Help From My Friends, I like that sogn so much, and without him we wouldn't have the Joe Cocker version of that song, which is also very good.[/QUOTE]

That was a Lennon/McCartney song, they just wanted Ringo to sing it because he was "Billy Shears"

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll][B]Do you mean songs that have the same singer as who wrote the lyrics.[/B]
[/QUOTE]

Basically, yes. The singer that sang those lyrics is who I wanted.

Sorry for the confusion.

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]Basically, yes. The singer that sang those lyrics is who I wanted.

Sorry for the confusion.[/QUOTE]

That was John.

Try Strawberry Fields Forever, A Day in the Life (well, a part of it), Revolution, I'm So Tired.

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]Songs that mainly use the singer that had the lyrics? What are you talking about? Do you mean songs that have the same singer as who wrote the lyrics. That's pretty much every Beatles song on and after Rubber Soul.

And about Ringo;
1.) He is a good drummer
2.) His got a very loveable personality and got along great with the other Beatles, Pete did not get along as well, for all we know Pete could have decreased the length of the beatles career.
3.) Without Ringo we would be missing a few great Beatle songs. John and Paul wrote some songs specifically with Ringo in mind! And also we cant forget Don't Pass Me By, and Octopus Garden.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Ringo was my favorite songwriter, right before Harrison.

Ringo didn't write Pass Me By and Octopus's Garden, did he?

Songs Ringo wrote/helped write:

What Goes On (Rubber Soul - Lennon/McCartney/Starkey)
Octopus's Garden (Abbey Road - Starkey)
Dig It (Let It Be - Lennon/McCartney/Harrison/Starkey)
Maggie Mae (Let It Be - Lennon/McCartney/Harrison/Starkey)
Don't Pass Me By (White Album - Starkey)

[QUOTE=magicbus]Songs Ringo wrote/helped write:[/QUOTE]
I always thought he helped write a lot more songs than that :-/.

[QUOTE=Jake]I always thought he helped write a lot more songs than that :-/.[/QUOTE]

Yea I did too. I know he sings on many more songs, but I looked up the writing credits and that's all he has.

[QUOTE=magicbus]Songs Ringo wrote/helped write:

What Goes On (Rubber Soul - Lennon/McCartney/Starkey)
Octopus's Garden (Abbey Road - Starkey)
Dig It (Let It Be - Lennon/McCartney/Harrison/Starkey)
Maggie Mae (Let It Be - Lennon/McCartney/Harrison/Starkey)
Don't Pass Me By (White Album - Starkey)[/QUOTE]

Wow, that's news to me. He should've written more!