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Ibanezist 06-29-2006 02:32 PM

I'm glad I don't smoke or drink

I'd be more broke than I am now

kurrpt'd 06-29-2006 02:33 PM

dude, seriously...


if a girl doesnt like you because you smoke, shes not worth your time to begin with. Ive never had problems before, or after i started smoking. If it came down to it, i could cut, dry, and roll my own tabacco. Hell, i wanna start growing mary jane, why not give my plant a little buddy

(*The Noonward Race*) 06-29-2006 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=unplugged89]I figured out a perfect way to ban smoking.


You just need to distribute some kind of "smoking license". That is, anyone who is legal to buy cigarettes can do, and anyone who can't won't be given a license. If no new licenses are given out then it will slowly die out.


the only problem with this is that smoking will become an enourmous underground activity. I reckon that in time people will realise that if your doing illegal things then there are much more amusing and hallucinogenic things to do than smoking tobacco and getting lung cancer. It should just phase out eventually.



someone quote and 123 me please.[/QUOTE]wow well you came to the write place wit this precious info

k mxers begin enofrcing!

unplugged89 06-29-2006 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=Atman][size=2]f[/size]uck people the biggest damage smoking is doing is to the healthcare system[/QUOTE]


and yet it is still doing less damage then fat idiots with diabetes.


why should I be taxed because people just can't say no to that 5th big mac?

unplugged89 06-29-2006 02:36 PM

[QUOTE=Atman]only 123 you'll get from me is that if tobacco is kept legal, it will die out[/QUOTE]



that's the point of my sceme. It's not a sudden "NO SMOKING" sign put over the world, it's just a gradual phasing out.



now 123 me!!!

Roger_Waters 06-29-2006 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=j_p]I don't think roger waters understands how hard it is to quit.[/QUOTE]

it is hard but with a thing called will power it can be done, there are so many things to help you quit as well.

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]
if a girl doesnt like you because you smoke, shes not worth your time to begin with. Ive never had problems before, or after i started smoking. If it came down to it, i could cut, dry, and roll my own tabacco. Hell, i wanna start growing mary jane, why not give my plant a little buddy[/QUOTE]

I would respect someone who did not go for someone who smoked. I wouldn't go for a girl who smoked, its a complete turn off

Ibanezist 06-29-2006 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]dude, seriously...


if a girl doesnt like you because you smoke, shes not worth your time to begin with. Ive never had problems before, or after i started smoking. If it came down to it, i could cut, dry, and roll my own tabacco. Hell, i wanna start growing mary jane, why not give my plant a little buddy[/QUOTE]

whoa sorry if people find it a repulsive habit and see you as a person with a repulsive habit and think it's a major turnoff

kurrpt'd 06-29-2006 02:38 PM

nope, thats pretty dumb. You'll probably wind up getting banned for the double post too


edit : like i said, if a girl doesnt like you purely based on one of your "habbits" then shes a dumb bitch to begin with


Roger Waters : how can you say something like that when you've obviously have had no experience with it? You're a scientologist arent you :lol:

I_go_by_mikee 06-29-2006 02:39 PM

even if smokings banned, its going to happen.

theres underage drinking, even if its against the law, theres underage smoking even if its against the law, theres pot smoking even when its against the law. theres so many things that are illegal that people still do. banning somethings not going to stop it.

Amit 06-29-2006 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=unplugged89]and yet it is still doing less damage then fat idiots with diabetes.


why should I be taxed because people just can't say no to that 5th big mac?[/QUOTE]

because food is a helluva lot harder to regulate than tobacco

overturned 06-29-2006 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]
edit : like i said, if a girl doesnt like you purely based on one of your "habbits" then shes a dumb bitch to begin with
[/QUOTE]
And lacks will power herself in not having an ideal of "being able to change you (the smoker)".

kurrpt'd 06-29-2006 02:41 PM

if anything, it makes it worse. People will find it "cool" because they arent supposed to, and it only causes it to get worse



exactly OT. If the person is a good person, i couldnt care less about trivial things, like the fact that she watches American Idol, soap operas, or the fact thats shes one of the worst singers ive ever heard, or the fact that she cannot possibly say the word "breakfast" without saying "brefdast"

You seriously learn to love their misgivings.

unplugged89 06-29-2006 02:42 PM

[QUOTE=I_go_by_mikee]even if smokings banned, its going to happen.

theres underage drinking, even if its against the law, theres underage smoking even if its against the law, [B]theres pot smoking even when its against the law[/B]. theres so many things that are illegal that people still do. banning somethings not going to stop it.[/QUOTE]



that's because drugs make you look cool!









joke :thumb:

Roger_Waters 06-29-2006 02:42 PM

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]
Roger Waters : how can you say something like that when you've obviously have had no experience with it? You're a scientologist arent you :lol:[/QUOTE]

experience with smoking? and i'm not a scientologist, I'm an atheist with strong views and poor morals

Timm 06-29-2006 02:44 PM

[QUOTE=Atman]only 123 you'll get from me is that if tobacco is kept legal, it will die out[/QUOTE]
and then it comes back...and dies out again....and comes back....and dies out again

/np elton john - circle of life

Roger_Waters 06-29-2006 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]if anything, it makes it worse. People will find it "cool" because they arent supposed to, and it only causes it to get worse
[/QUOTE]

as long as they don't smoke in obvious public places like bars, restaurants, clubs, cafes and the popular streets then I don't care, they might kill themselves off, which would be a bonus

kurrpt'd 06-29-2006 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]experience with smoking? and i'm not a scientologist, I'm an atheist with strong views and poor morals[/QUOTE]


exactly. You have such a closed-minded approach, that you cant possibly make a claim saying its "easy to quit"


i quit for a 17 week period, and i must say, it wasnt easy


theres absolutely no way to put what you suggest into motion.

Timm 06-29-2006 02:46 PM

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]I'm an atheist with strong views and poor morals[/QUOTE]
The name is A!
And I’m back in command!
Cause I’m the illest Führer
Representing Deutschland

Reich 1, reich 2, reich 3..
That’s me! The master mind behind World War 3
No, 2! My bad! Oh well, start it over!
Been gone for so long but now I’m back and I’ma show ya!
Everybody Hitler-hatin when they speak my name!
But it’s the new millenium and the Fuhrer has changed!
And what I bet yall didn’t know is now I’m down with the jews!
The gypsies, homosexuals and retards too!
Cause I stopped burning people, started burning CD’s!
Stopped battlin’ the world, started battlin’ MC’s!
Just started bustin’ rhymes, finally found my groove,
And now the “S.S on my jacket stands for “Super Smooth"

Roger_Waters 06-29-2006 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=Swim]so you are an atheist, strongly against smoking with no real reason and claim that you have poor morals?

excuse me while i chuckle to myself :p[/QUOTE]

of course I have a reason, have you not been reading this thread?

Its unhealthy, costs a lot of money, a lot of women don't like you because of it. It makes you stink, opens you up to all sorts of diseases and you die younger than a non smoker. And you get ratty if you don't have your 'fag', which is pathetic

I_go_by_mikee 06-29-2006 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=unplugged89]that's because drugs make you look cool!









joke :thumb:[/QUOTE]


haha, ik now alot of people that are proud that they do them, not to make them look cool but the fact that people give such a sh¡t.

my first period class this year the teacher was like oh so i saw you smoking a ciggerette outside, to some kid next to me, and the kids like naw that be them trees.

the teachers cool as hell though, shes been to 3 pink floyd concerts. so i know shes experimented, or at least been around them. haha

kurrpt'd 06-29-2006 02:47 PM

thats a fairly accurate summation.

i guess its fun to argue a point that has little to no backing, that is based on a personal decision made by a relative that probably lived past his 60s anyway.

Remind me to try that sometime :thumb:

unplugged89 06-29-2006 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=Atman]because food is a helluva lot harder to regulate than tobacco[/QUOTE]



It's an incredibly delicate issue to be honest. I mean, on one hand there is the fact that smokers and obese people have *kind of* done it to themselves, so why should my hard earned money be taken away to help them out of thier own mess. But then on the other hand they would be in incredibly ill health (or dead) without the money I give to the NHS.


The conclusion I've come to is that I'll pay the taxes in the knowledge that this is where some of my money is going. I won't be incredibly happy about it, but I won't start writing letters into the Guardian* about it.




*@Americans: Guardian is a well respected Newspaper in the UK

j_p 06-29-2006 02:48 PM

My school is weird. The dirts smoke cigs, while the hockey jocks smoke prime times and chew tabacco.

Ibanezist 06-29-2006 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=Timm]The name is A!
And I’m back in command!
Cause I’m the illest Führer
Representing Deutschland

Reich 1, reich 2, reich 3..
That’s me! The master mind behind World War 3
No, 2! My bad! Oh well, start it over!
Been gone for so long but now I’m back and I’ma show ya!
Everybody Hitler-hatin when they speak my name!
But it’s the new millenium and the Fuhrer has changed!
And what I bet yall didn’t know is now I’m down with the jews!
The gypsies, homosexuals and retards too!
Cause I stopped burning people, started burning CD’s!
Stopped battlin’ the world, started battlin’ MC’s!
Just started bustin’ rhymes, finally found my groove,
And now the “S.S on my jacket stands for “Super Smooth"[/QUOTE]

Hah, that's a funny video.

Have you seen the 'Mr. Hilter' Monty Python bit?

Roger_Waters 06-29-2006 02:49 PM

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]exactly. You have such a closed-minded approach, that you cant possibly make a claim saying its [B]"easy to quit"[/B]


i quit for a 17 week period, and i must say, it wasnt easy


theres absolutely no way to put what you suggest into motion.[/QUOTE]

i never said it was easy to quit, i said it can be done with a lot of will powere and self belief. What annoys me are the people who say they 'can't' and leave it at that.

unplugged89 06-29-2006 02:50 PM

[QUOTE=I_go_by_mikee]
the teachers cool as hell though, shes been to 3 pink floyd concerts. so i know shes experimented, or at least been around them. haha[/QUOTE]


I worked out recently that in the 70's my parents were the same age as the guys in the 70's show.



I know they've done pot before, which is why they're totally cool about me and my sister doing it.





I'M COOL NOW!!

Timm 06-29-2006 02:50 PM

[QUOTE=Ibanezist]Hah, that's a funny video.

Have you seen the 'Mr. Hilter' Monty Python bit?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_D7WtOHZd0&search=Monty%20Python%20hitler[/url]

is it this?

I_go_by_mikee 06-29-2006 02:52 PM

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]of course I have a reason, have you not been reading this thread?

Its unhealthy, costs a lot of money, a lot of women don't like you because of it. It makes you stink, opens you up to all sorts of diseases and you die younger than a non smoker. And you get ratty if you don't have your 'fag', which is pathetic[/QUOTE]
that is all opinion for the most part though.

unhealthy, yes.
costs lots of money, not if they want it. some people use smoking to help them relax and keep their mind off stuff, just like some of us use music/guitar.
a cd, costs 3 packs of ciggerettes generally.
alot of women isnt true, because a majority of my friends that are women smoke.
some people enjoy the smell of ciggerettes, there are some that i don't mind the smell of, but i myself dont smoke.
opens you up to a whole bunch of diseases, i guess. but you can get a disease from anything almost.


[QUOTE=unplugged89]I worked out recently that in the 70's my parents were the same age as the guys in the 70's show.



I know they've done pot before, which is why they're totally cool about me and my sister doing it.





I'M COOL NOW!![/QUOTE]


i'm almost positive my fathers done it, his friends have i know.
and i dont think my mom has smoked a ciggerette even.

i dont smoke, but my dads fine with me hanging out with smokers.
my moms all paranoid though.

Roger_Waters 06-29-2006 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=Swim]yeah but that's their choice[/QUOTE]

makes them look unbelievably sad and pathetic

kurrpt'd 06-29-2006 02:55 PM

you sound like a kid that got a little smoke blown is his face, claimed he was "allergic" to the smoke, went home crying to mommy...


and now we have to hear about it. Where do you live? I want to evelope your house in a cloud of DEATH. Newports box 100s to be exact :p


swim : i was going to mention that, but i thought it was too easy


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