What album is best to get if you're new to Opeth, dont really like death metal, but love the dark, softer stuff they do. I dont hate death metal, but I love the stuff they do in Harvest or Windowpane (the only 2 songs I've heard). Has any one album mainly got those sort of songs on it? Classic Rock said the new album was superb, so I was thinking of getting that.

[QUOTE=EdwardTheGreat]What album is best to get if you're new to Opeth, dont really like death metal, but love the dark, softer stuff they do. I dont hate death metal, but I love the stuff they do in Harvest or Windowpane (the only 2 songs I've heard). Has any one album mainly got those sort of songs on it? Classic Rock said the new album was superb, so I was thinking of getting that.[/QUOTE]

well if you like the softer stuff, ****ation is pretty much all softer stuff, probably most accesible to you if thats what you prefer, although you say you dont really like death metal, ive got a few mates who ive played opeth to who are far from death metal fans, and theyve gotten really into, so id listen to some of the stuff which isnt all soft and just give it time, maybe best trying something like Blackwater Park or Still Life, although they are all great :D

hey, i saw opeth last night in Manchester and they kicked ***! ive seen some people moaning about the set list but all the songs were great, although i may have swapped baying of the hounds for ghost of perdition, at the end of the day when you've got 8 albums worth of material your not going to be able to please everyone, but they had a good mix covering most of their albums, the ****ation tracks were very good, personal favs were Drapery Falls, Grand Conjuration and Demon of the fall, my neck is very sore today!!!

[QUOTE=DuncMaster]As long is the music is good then why the funk should you give a crap what record label it is?

I don't.[/QUOTE]
Well, do you actually like the mallcore kids that run around and annoy the piss out of everyone they find? Roadrunner is going to whore Opeth out so that everyone will be a fan of Opeth. Althout the music will be good, they lose their novelty. Right now, they seem to be one of those bands that only musicians perfer.

[QUOTE=EdwardTheGreat]What album is best to get if you're new to Opeth, dont really like death metal, but love the dark, softer stuff they do. I dont hate death metal, but I love the stuff they do in Harvest or Windowpane (the only 2 songs I've heard). Has any one album mainly got those sort of songs on it? Classic Rock said the new album was superb, so I was thinking of getting that.[/QUOTE]
Da[b][i][/i][/b]mnation is all soft acoustic or clean songs, so that may the be the best choice for you. Nextn you should get the newest album, [I]Ghost Reveries[/I]. There is a lot of soft stufff on it, and less death vocals than any other album besides [I]Da[b][i][/i][/b]mnation[/I].

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]


Da[b][i][/i][/b]mnation is all soft acoustic or clean songs, so that may the be the best choice for you. Nextn you should get the newest album, [I]Ghost Reveries[/I]. There is a lot of soft stufff on it, and less death vocals than any other album besides [I]Da[b][i][/i][/b]mnation[/I].[/QUOTE]

Quite. I bought ****ation first and loved it, because it's all mellow stuff. It doesn't have the same feel as some of the earlier acoustic interludes from the old school albums, but it's a great album. After that I downloaded Ghost Reveries (this was early August, it got leaked) and dug it. It helped that it didn't have so much growling. I downloaded all the albums (except Deliverance, which I still want) off someone, and right now Still Life is my favorite, followed by Blackwater Park, and both feature really heavy songs with lots of growling, which I still don't really like but don't mind so much. If you're put off by the death vocals, you'll probably still come to enjoy Opeth through the same kind of path I did.

Stay clear of Orchid until you're sure you like them, though. It's kind of raw and almost black-metally, and way more harsh than the other albums.

'To Bid You Farewell' and 'Face Of Melinda' are great songs that have metal parts but no growling.

How exactly do you pronounce Opeth?

I say Oh-peth, but have also heard people say Opp-eth.

I think I say it right, but i'm just not sure.

[QUOTE=iofsuicide]hey, i saw opeth last night in Manchester and they kicked ***! ive seen some people moaning about the set list but all the songs were great, although i may have swapped baying of the hounds for ghost of perdition, at the end of the day when you've got 8 albums worth of material your not going to be able to please everyone, but they had a good mix covering most of their albums, the ****ation tracks were very good, personal favs were Drapery Falls, Grand Conjuration and Demon of the fall, my neck is very sore today!!![/QUOTE]
Hey man, so did I, it was f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking awesome. Although The Leper Affinity/A Fair Judgement would have been nice, but we got Face of Melinda, which I didn't expect at all. I took one of my friends who had previously listened to one Opeth track (and that was Windowpane), and he's now saving up to buy all the albums. :cool:

Haha, great work craggyisland.

[QUOTE=Hells Bells]That might not be a bad thing, maybe Opeth will introduce people in that crowd to some good music.[/QUOTE]

This is true, and it's the first time I've thought of it that way. Look at some of the bands still on Roadrunner though. A good majority of the good bands left havn't had any trouble with their music being affected. Example: One of the best heavy albums in along time to come from america was on Roadrunner. Devildriver's Fury of Our Maker's Hand :thumb:

And of course that was before Ghost Reveries, so. Guys, I've worried about it, but I'm over it. I don't think Mike and the guys are going to be pushed around by the industry. GR certainly gave us some good hope there.

/agrees with Blanka

[QUOTE=Blanka Flip]This is true, and it's the first time I've thought of it that way. Look at some of the bands still on Roadrunner though. A good majority of the good bands left havn't had any trouble with their music being affected. Example: One of the best heavy albums in along time to come from america was on Roadrunner. Devildriver's Fury of Our Maker's Hand :thumb:

And of course that was before Ghost Reveries, so. Guys, I've worried about it, but I'm over it. I don't think Mike and the guys are going to be pushed around by the industry. GR certainly gave us some good hope there.[/QUOTE]
I hate DevilDriver with a passion. Lamest excuse for death metal I've ever heard. I think they are a very poor example to use. I don't think the media is going to change Opeth, I just don't want to deal with idiots who won't look into the music. I will be constantly getting in arguments with them and pummeling them at shows. I hate scene kids, especially the metal ones.

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]I hate DevilDriver with a passion. Lamest excuse for death metal I've ever heard. I think they are a very poor example to use. I don't think the media is going to change Opeth, I just don't want to deal with idiots who won't look into the music. I will be constantly getting in arguments with them and pummeling them at shows. I hate scene kids, especially the metal ones.[/QUOTE]

Not to cause an arguement, but I don't belive they are suppost to be deathmetal. The way I look at it is this: When was the last time a band from the heart of America came out with a record that is streight metal with none of the lame b.s in between? I didn't like them at first either, I thought they were really lame... But I saw them live and it changed everything. Opeth loves them, I love them. Especially the new one.

[QUOTE=Blanka Flip]Not to cause an arguement, but I don't belive they are suppost to be deathmetal. The way I look at it is this: When was the last time a band from the heart of America came out with a record that is streight metal with none of the lame b.s in between? I didn't like them at first either, I thought they were really lame... But I saw them live and it changed everything. Opeth loves them, I love them. Especially the new one.[/QUOTE]
I actually own the album with 'I Could Care Less' and I downloaded the new album because of one song that I heard a clip of. I don't like either one. I saw them live as well, at SotU and Dez(I think that's his name) was up there preaching about how death metal they were and that all the death kids should be beating the hell out of the hardcore kids because hardcore music was for pus[b][i][/i][/b]sies. He pissed me off badly, so I threw jerk chicken at him while he was performing. I don't like much american metal actually. American's suck at metal(j/k of course :p).

Devildriver were ok at SOTU, nothing to mindblowing. Better then some other bands there though... (Clutch...Lamb of God...etc.)

I liked Clutch. They were a nice change from everything else that was there. I like LoG but they get old so easily, and they suck live.

Clutch were just oddly out of place, and generally sounded like crap. LoG was just bad. Everything about them.

I was supposed to go to SOTU, but I couldn't make it [shakes fist in general direction of my parents' room], but my friends went, they said the best groups were Opeth, Lamb Of God, and Unearth, and my friend Andrew said Clutch was just fine, but I dunno, maybe they just sucked at the show you went to.

Unearth was good. But Clutch just generally sounded bad, not bad quality but I just didn't like the music at all. The guitar tried to much to sound like it was from the 70s and it destroyed the music.

I liked Unearth, Opeth, and FBtMoF. The other bands were all pretty decent except a couple, but I wasn't into them as much. I had never heard Clutch up until that point so when they started playing, I was like 'Wtf? This rocks!". They played right before Lamb of God, so it was a big surprise. I liked them.

Random, but I was just over on the official Opeth forum and I can't believe the number of douchebags who are talking about how the album is 'a sellout' and 'a good prog album but a bad metal album.' One guy actually made a ranting post about how the album should have been black metal because Mikael said it might be right after D&D, and then berated it because it wasn't black metal on all these different levels. Christ.

It's called "idiocy" Jude, we're surrounded with it...

[QUOTE=craggyisland]Hey man, so did I, it was f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking awesome. Although The Leper Affinity/A Fair Judgement would have been nice, but we got Face of Melinda, which I didn't expect at all. I took one of my friends who had previously listened to one Opeth track (and that was Windowpane), and he's now saving up to buy all the albums. :cool:[/QUOTE]

do you reckon you could give us a setlist??

cheers

It's nowhere near a sellout album. If you listen to it, how could anyone not see that it is a logical progression from their older work? It's a bit different, but it's definately not bad.

Perhaps due to the lack of Death Vocals?

Overall it is not as heavy as past albums, added to the lack of death vocals :p

But... Opeth aren't a death band so people shouldn't be complaining.

[QUOTE=Shazzam]How exactly do you pronounce Opeth?

I say Oh-peth, but have also heard people say Opp-eth.[/QUOTE]

I saw the commercial for Ghost Reveries and the announcer guy said it Opp-eth.

On the DVD Mikael pronounces it O-peth.

Yeah, and thats how he says it at every other live performance. And thats how I've always said it. :D

Same here.

which opeth album has a good blend of Growling and screaming? im having a hard time finding a place to start with them.




Edit: awsome i got my 4th star :cool: