[QUOTE=cbmartinez]True. But I'd still be reluctant to call them metalcore.[/QUOTE]

How about good stuff?

Unearth is pretty good.

I love Unearth

They're good and all, but they're nothing new and way overrated.

I wouldn't say overrated. I've never heard them be overrated around here, anyway. But then again, most people around here are still applying the word hardcore to bands like The Used and Atreyu.

I think I am going with two of my friends to see them with Atreyu and Norma Jean, for only $15!!!! Should be badass, I'm looking forward to it. You can rag on those bands all you want, but they all put on a kickass show.

I've heard good things about Norma Jean live...but for the guy who said straylight run aren't emo...I like um and I've always thought they were.

Norma Jean has a pretty good live show, but I didn't really like their new singer.

back to the thread topic, has anyone suggested barry white? thats the classic/most obvious (along with marvin gaye) music style for _____________(insert whatever you call having sex)

im sure this'll sound wierd but is ryan cabrera emo? i have freinds arguing that he is...
and what about All American Regects....

No.

& no.

would u class thursday as emo/screamo?

what about welcome the plague year, are they screamo?

/me is going to see Welcome To The Plague Year with Envy in Philly :)

Yeah, Some really good **** is like, Hawthorne Heights, Underoath and I guess I can throw in It Dies Today, cause they come from my town (also the fact they kickass.)

(Rock on.)

Just let it go, guys.

Hawthorne Heights are from Ohio.
I'm from Ohio.
Hawthorne Heights play shows in Ohio.
I go to shows in Ohio.
I would throw **** at them but then I'd probably get kicked out of the place, considering anyone around here who has bands play are total pricks.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Is it irony that somebody who's screen name is wannabe emo (in a clear and failed attempt at logical complexity in the English language) recklessly praises wannabe emo bands in a true blue emo thread, or is it just flagrant stupidity? You tell me.[/QUOTE]

a large amound of both, I would suppose.

I just listened to An Albatross' albums today, I didn't know they had some nintendocore in them as well. My only complaint would be, like with a lot of other grind/screamo bands, the length of the songs.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Is it irony that somebody who's screen name is wannabe emo (in a clear and failed attempt at logical complexity in the English language) recklessly praises wannabe emo bands in a true blue emo thread, or is it just flagrant stupidity? You tell me.[/QUOTE]

underoath isn't wannabe emo. they aren't trying to be anything, and i'm sure they don't want to be emo. they just are playing the type of music they want to play. now HH, even though i was just listening to their cd in my car today, i can't really defend.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Hawthorne Heights just sucks. I mean come on; my dad listens to them.[/QUOTE]

Wow, and I thought I was ashamed of my dad's music tastes...

[QUOTE=srt-4]underoath isn't wannabe emo. they aren't trying to be anything, and i'm sure they don't want to be emo. they [/QUOTE]

Excuse me? Listen to "The Last" and then listen to "Young and Aspiring"

[QUOTE=Happymeal]I just listened to An Albatross' albums today, I didn't know they had some nintendocore in them as well. My only complaint would be, like with a lot of other grind/screamo bands, the length of the songs.[/QUOTE]

An Albatross f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking rule. Sure, they may not make Nintendo references, but most of their synth lines are so fun and sound like they came out of a Nintendo game.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Excuse me? Listen to "The Last" and then listen to "Young and Aspiring"[/QUOTE]

i have cries of the past, i know they sound different. so what, that doesn't prove your point. you are assuming that that is the music that they want to play and that they are playing the music they play now to become popular. but really, they don't want to make that music, they want to make what they make now. so if they did keep making music that sounded like their old stuff, they would be doing exactly what people accuse them of doing now.

and as for hh, like i said, i'm not going to try to say they are good, but i have to admit that i listen to their cd from time to time.

And why do you think they want to make what they make now? You think it's just complete coincidence that their new sound also happens to be the hot ticket right now? I mean it's working, I've seen their fan base nearly double in numbers since the new one came out.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]And why do you think they want to make what they make now? You think it's just complete coincidence that their new sound also happens to be the hot ticket right now? I mean it's working, I've seen their fan base nearly double in numbers since the new one came out.[/QUOTE]

so what if that sound is popular? they can't like to play it if it is popular? the old sound wasn't so much the band as it was dallas, so why shouldn't they play what they want now? i don't really know that much about most bands, but i know a decent bit about underoath being that they are from the same city as me, and EVERYBODY here seems to know them somehow. and they didn't say, "we are going to make music that sounds like this just so we can make money" like you seem to think.

Yeah, I guess they accidentally sold out. Nice how that worked out for them.

ya, they should have kept making music they didn't want to make, just so they were respected by elitist kids. thats what music is all about anyway. now that i know they aren't cool enough any more i will go throw away my underoath cds. will i get scene points then?

You know what, you're absolutely right. I think it's terrible that Dallas made Underoath create music their vibrant little pseudo-emo hearts didn't want to make for three straight albums. How dare he. He even made them tour for 5 years on music they didn't want to be playing. What a monster!

Oh well. You're still cool for liking Saetia and Portrait and stuff. I do disagree with you on this strongly however.

haha, thanks. we will just agree to disagree then. i am just happy for them they are doing good, since they are real nice guys. and thanks again for the interpunk tip for getting the portrait cd.

I don't know where else to post this. Is there anyone else who prefers [I]March On Electric Children[/I] over their debut? Sure, it's leaning a bit more on BPIB, but musically imo it's better than [I]This Adultery is Ripe[/I].

[QUOTE=Happymeal]I don't know where else to post this. Is there anyone else who prefers [I]March On Electric Children[/I] over their debut? Sure, it's leaning a bit more on BPIB, but musically imo it's better than [I]This Adultery is Ripe[/I].[/QUOTE]

I find [I]March On Electric Children[/I] is not really cohesive. Sure, they've progressed musically but the focus isn't really on the music. I don't know, [I]This Adultery Is Ripe[/I] still stands as the album that is the most cohesive, spastic, focused, hard-hitting, well I could go on forever.

[url=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6165491#post6165491]Even against DFelon's arguments, some people are beyond help[/url].

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger][url=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6165491#post6165491]Even against DFelon's arguments, some people are beyond help[/url].[/QUOTE]

I cant believe you!

Im not sure how youd classify Glassjaw, are they emo/screamo? Because obviously I know nothing so i must ask before I say anything.

[QUOTE=vallely2004]I cant believe you![/QUOTE]
Why?

Do you know how many times your argument has been posted and easily refuted in here?

If anything, I'd love for you to take it in here so even more people can display how wrong you are.

[QUOTE=vallely2004]
Im not sure how youd classify Glassjaw, are they emo/screamo? Because obviously I know nothing so i must ask before I say anything.[/QUOTE]
Glassjaw is mostly just a rock band, though they have some small and relatively insufficient ties to emo.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]Why?

Do you know how many times your argument has been posted and easily refuted in here?

[/QUOTE]

None, i just searched for my username and the name 'vallely' as some refer to me as it, in this forum and I couldnt find any matches! :thumb:

[QUOTE=vallely2004]None, i just searched for my username and the name 'vallely' as some refer to me as it, in this forum and I couldnt find any matches! :thumb:[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about the argument you presented that MCR is an emo band, which is wrong and has been shown to be wrong many times in this thread.

[QUOTE=september endings][I]Genre isn't about opinion.[/I]


I was getting at the point that emo is different to everyone, and varies much. From Damien Rice, Taking Back Sunday, to My Chemical Romance, to Saves the Day. That certain songs of a band can be emo while the band is not. Or bands that are emo can make songs that are not.

My Chemical Romance along with the Mars Volta are leading the mainstream emo on the airwaves. My Chemical Romance, in real life are good friends with Thursday. Through interviews, the admit to find inspiration from their music through each other. They both are emo (in my opinion), and ( i believe they) would classify one another as emo.

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Only found 2-3 posts refuting that My Chemical Romance are not Emo, this one and another one were pro My Chemical romance = Emo