[QUOTE=danny10125]yea this is an old thread, but just in case anyones still looking at it....
I was wondering how I should try to sing slipknot music by screaming. should i start with something easier first? thanks[/QUOTE]

This is actually now one of the most active voice threads now. Thanks to yours truly... Just kidding. But it is very active.

Can you scream well now? Its all the same technique wise. You get the raspy sound of the back of your throat. not the cords. Thats why these guys can go do it day in and day out. Plus you dont have to push as hard as people think, or as hard as it sounds. thats what mics are for. But There are a few things you should be aware of. Go check out my voicehelp hotline sticky.

wut hotline?

[QUOTE=TheOneThatBleeds]wut hotline?[/QUOTE]

"[b]What[/b]* hotline?"

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]

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*bumped just to make sure their ain't gonna be 5 new scream threads

+ small question I can scream high pitched but when i try to do it louder it kinda gets poopoo any tips or should i just train some more on it

[SIZE=4][COLOR=Black][FONT=Arial Black]How do i scream like cradle of filth in black metal and her ghost in the fog?[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]

[QUOTE=EcolliJK]*bumped just to make sure their ain't gonna be 5 new scream threads

+ small question I can scream high pitched but when i try to do it louder it kinda gets poopoo any tips or should i just train some more on it[/QUOTE]

be sure you arent making the age old mistake of squeezing the throat as youre trying to add pressure. Otherwise youre just gonna have to build up strength over time. And practice mid voice loud "hah" 's but be sure youre clamping down on the cords to get a clean vowel sound in the middle of the H sandwich. sound. hah's and the H's help build strength because you have to close down on the air that is already passing through. It will take time. Dont over due it and be sure to warm down.

[QUOTE=COFMETAL][SIZE=4][COLOR=Black][FONT=Arial Black]How do i scream like cradle of filth in black metal and her ghost in the fog?[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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From what i understand Cradle's singer uses some inhale screams from what people say. I've never heard them.

Does anyone know how thrices Dustin Kensrue screams? any help would be appreciated :)

What about corey taylor of slipknot/stone sour falsetto screaming how does he add all that rasp he has in his scream? i really need to figure out how he does that

dustins scream sounds more like some who is pissed off just yelling at someone

[QUOTE=6(sic)6drummer]What about corey taylor of slipknot/stone sour falsetto screaming how does he add all that rasp he has in his scream? i really need to figure out how he does that[/QUOTE]

then you might want to mosey on over to my voicehelp hotline sticky.

Argh
 

alright.. I have read through loads of threads, been practicing, getting good for a while,.. but now I've reached a point where.. no matter how I try to vary my technique it's always hurting. so can anyone who knows better tell me what I should do. I'm cosidering just starting from scratch so I don't mal-learn.. anyone care to give me a quick run through of what i should do ..technique wise. (and please do not give a link to a thread where I'll have to sift through tonns of posts to get scraps of useful info)

Would be much appreciated ..really :smoke:

well you should stop first of all.
you may need to take a few days if not week or two off.

Try to get a sample up, that might help.

Do lots of e's at normal pitches and speaking push. And do glisses up and down. Dont do any serious pushing if youre hurting that much. Maybe get to an ENT doctor if you can.
Gotta get to work myself. ....peace

Don't suppose anyone has any pointers on how to get a Chester Bennington scream(like on One Step Closer)? I can sing almost all of his Linkin Park/Grey Daze stuff, but I can't quite pull off that great scream of his. My voice is a bit deeper(abit closer to Jeff Gutt of Dry Cell), but I can still pull off 90% of Chester's stuff with relative ease. Closer to 100% on a good day. All I need is a good scream and I'll be that much better of a frontman for my band. We really wanna incorporate more screaming for effect but my bassist is slightly better than me at it, but he don't sound too good either, so it's kinda in vain. A few good screams from me will create such a better feel for our already good tunes. If anyone can help me out here, it would be appreciated.

scream?
 

I'm not sure if this is the right way to scream but someone tell me please...i go quiet like ALMOST a whisper and push extra air out and add a little sound...it doesnt hurt and through a mic it sounds ok i guess..is that right?

and btw how do you scream like Conor Oberst from Bright Eyes/Desaparecidos?

someone respond please


edit: a scream like Conor in the song Greater Omaha by Desaparecidos

[QUOTE=PDOGG]Don't suppose anyone has any pointers on how to get a Chester Bennington scream(like on One Step Closer)? I can sing almost all of his Linkin Park/Grey Daze stuff, but I can't quite pull off that great scream of his. My voice is a bit deeper(abit closer to Jeff Gutt of Dry Cell), but I can still pull off 90% of Chester's stuff with relative ease. Closer to 100% on a good day. All I need is a good scream and I'll be that much better of a frontman for my band. We really wanna incorporate more screaming for effect but my bassist is slightly better than me at it, but he don't sound too good either, so it's kinda in vain. A few good screams from me will create such a better feel for our already good tunes. If anyone can help me out here, it would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
For one you have to have a nice range. and strength throughout it. Chester does. This means you can reach up for a higher tone in those raspy falsetto type screams. If you can do close to 100 on a good day, then what are you asking? how to get better at it , and how to get it is just work. And read these forums. You could have one of the common flaws thats limiting you. [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]

[QUOTE=chris4aker]I'm not sure if this is the right way to scream but someone tell me please...i go quiet like ALMOST a whisper and push extra air out and add a little sound...it doesnt hurt and through a mic it sounds ok i guess..is that right?

and btw how do you scream like Conor Oberst from Bright Eyes/Desaparecidos?

someone respond please


edit: a scream like Conor in the song Greater Omaha by Desaparecidos[/QUOTE]
Got a sample? its gonna sound weak if youre not supporting it like youre singing. Thats why i always say start off like youre singing. But you could get a good scream if you had the right breath control. some people call it a whisper scream but usually they sound like a whisper scream and not a scream scream. So hopefully youre doing it well.

Anyone know how to scream like Dani from Cradle of Filth? Please respond

HAsnt this question been asked like last week? Its the same thing. Theres not many things you can do with your cords. For one you have to have strong enough cords. Go to Merkabas voicehelp hotline Sticky. Its all there.

Well I can SING 90-100% of the stuff he SINGS, but when the screams come I cant
pull em off. For instance, I can sing One Step closer pretty easily, until the part when he screams "Shut up" comes, I just sound like im still singing, only abit louder and somewhat deeper. I tried the technique at the beginning of this thread but it's just not a very good/nor similar sound. I'm not sure how to PHYSICALLY scream like him, I'm positive my voice is strong enough, I just don't know how to physically do it. An explanation on that would be great.

some help here would be really appreciated.....

Have you checked out the voichelp hotline? go to my samples and see if it helps. you have to learn to shift the throat muscles while keeping everything relaxed and open.

[QUOTE=COFMETAL][SIZE=4][COLOR=Black][FONT=Arial Black]How do i scream like cradle of filth in black metal and her ghost in the fog?[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

That's called growling, it's mostly rasp.

What would you guys say about a... how do I put this... a reverse scream? I may have missed it, considering the fact that I'll take a pineapple enema before I read 25 pages straight of stuff. Anyways the singer in my band sounds like frackin banchee when he does it. He sucks in air past his vocal chords to do it. Does anyone have any pointers or cautions for this? He already swallowed several bugs doing this. F'in classic.

Well...i assume i'm not doing it correctly...cos even though i'm using your technique...i lose my voice after just a few minutes...my throat doesn't hurt...but i lose my voice...*shrugs*

Any idea on how to do a showbread type scream? Like from their song Mouth Like A Magazine...([url]http://showbread.net[/url])

Ok, im a happy camper. I been practicing the technique from the first page of the thread and it's finally paying off. I'm developing a really cool scream, it's a little darker/deeper than Chester's but still very cool and powerful without feeling at all like a grunt. It's definitely closer to Chester's than Slipknot's and I'm very happy with it. It's quite original. Now I just need to build up some strength in it and I'll be set. Thanks to all who helped me(the muscle shifting helped abit too, thanks man).

Anyone want to help me figure out how Rob Halford does those awesome screams?

Oh hey.

I'm really looking for some good tips and whatnot to improve my voice, had I read this whole thing I may have found close to what I need but I don't have the time.

Anyways, I wanna know how I can get a Kurt Cobain, Phil Tayler (Future Leaders Of The World) type of higher pitched and raspy scream. I also would like to know just how to make my voice "raspy". Another thing I'm curious about is the type of scream done by Breaking Benjamin. Please email me with any tips or anything, it'd be much appreciated. Thanks.

[email]comeplaydying133@hotmail.com[/email]

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[QUOTE=PDOGG]Ok, im a happy camper. I been practicing the technique from the first page of the thread and it's finally paying off. I'm developing a really cool scream, it's a little darker/deeper than Chester's but still very cool and powerful without feeling at all like a grunt. It's definitely closer to Chester's than Slipknot's and I'm very happy with it. It's quite original. Now I just need to build up some strength in it and I'll be set. Thanks to all who helped me(the muscle shifting helped abit too, thanks man).[/QUOTE]

If youre following stuff form the first of this thread then be careful.

Check out my voichelp hotline if you havent.

[QUOTE=me inside]Oh hey.

I'm really looking for some good tips and whatnot to improve my voice, had I read this whole thing I may have found close to what I need but I don't have the time.

Anyways, I wanna know how I can get a Kurt Cobain, Phil Tayler (Future Leaders Of The World) type of higher pitched and raspy scream. I also would like to know just how to make my voice "raspy". Another thing I'm curious about is the type of scream done by Breaking Benjamin. Please email me with any tips or anything, it'd be much appreciated. Thanks.

[email]comeplaydying133@hotmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]

Another lazy bones.
If youre this lazy then youre not gonna have enough work ethic to practice getting a good scream so why take the time to conjure it all up, again, to email to you to help you when its already here. Read. Read what other people say and the questions they ask so you can build up your own knowledge and reference. some people ask many important questions that you may not have come up with yet until youre more experienced. I enjoy reading as much as i can about things I'm passionate about. Maybe voice is not one of those things for you.

i've noticed that when i wanna really belt out a scream i gotta think of something that really pisses me off... go to my bands website [url]www.zerotonone.com[/url] and listen to the song washing machine... let me know how that scream sounds...

Hmm, well, I've been working on screaming for a few months. But I've gotten into a rut. I can do certain screams, like atreyu/from autumn to ashes style screams no problem, sounds great, doesn't hurt a bit. But if I try doing any higher pitched screams, it's just not there. I can't do it. Is this normal? i'm kinda confused.

[QUOTE=-Moses-]i've noticed that when i wanna really belt out a scream i gotta think of something that really pisses me off... go to my bands website [url]www.zerotonone.com[/url] and listen to the song washing machine... let me know how that scream sounds...[/QUOTE]


the "scream" around 1:50 or so was pretty meh

the rest of the song was plain horrible, everything about it. sorry.

yeah it was recorded in a basement as a joke....it's fun to play though

If you want an example of good Death Metal screaming, check out Drifter by In Flames.

[QUOTE=StormX]Hmm, well, I've been working on screaming for a few months. But I've gotten into a rut. I can do certain screams, like atreyu/from autumn to ashes style screams no problem, sounds great, doesn't hurt a bit. But if I try doing any higher pitched screams, it's just not there. I can't do it. Is this normal? i'm kinda confused.[/QUOTE]
practice singing the note first....scream it later. Theres not much difference

I know merkaba..but the thing is I can't sing. Well, I don't know how, and when I try it's not a pretty thing to hear. I can do the technique for screaming, the pushing and rasp and everything, but when I try to do it any high it just isn't there? Mabye I don't have that high of a range?

*bumped for containing usefull info
and preventing more scream threads

i scream by kinda closing off this one part of my throat. i dont think its falsetto but i dont think its full voice or w/e. cuz it doesnt hurt and i can do it for a long time and not lose my voice at all. its kinda of this part of my throat if i push hard enuf it wud make me throw up. is this rite at all? it sounds kinda of like older avenged sevenfold screams. please help me out.