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The JoZ 10-07-2004 07:13 PM

If anyone cares, I finally found a site that has the Leno video...

paper2302 10-07-2004 07:42 PM

Hey i care, where is it?

The JoZ 10-07-2004 08:36 PM

[url]http://webjay.org/by/webjaybs/slipknotvideoswindowsmediaplayer#117348[/url]

leomondaine 10-07-2004 09:05 PM

the leno one was ok, have you seen the jimmy kimmel vids?

The JoZ 10-08-2004 01:49 AM

[QUOTE=leomondaine]the leno one was ok, have you seen the jimmy kimmel vids?[/QUOTE]

No, I haven't.

relliK 10-08-2004 09:34 PM

[url]www.robomuffin.com[/url]

^Jimmy Kimmel vids.The quality isnt great but they will do.

lonely maggot 10-08-2004 10:00 PM

ok lets face it, their last album is definitively not as good as their other albums but still very good, tough a little comercial to me but I love 'em anyways, I enjoy every lyric every tab I just dunno it's like something takes over me and leads me somewhere else...
well it's difficult to explain so lets get down to bussines:
[B]MY LIST[/B][U]
1.The Shape
2.The Heretic anthem
3.Tattered and torn
4.(sic)
5.-Eyeless
6.Liberate
7.Me Inside
8.Spit it out
9.No life
10.Get this
11.Metabolic
12.People= s***
13.Purity
14.The blister exists
15.Three Nil
16.Welcome
17.Circle
18.The pulse of the maggots
19.Wait and bleed
20.Surfacing
If I could keep going....[/FONT] :cool:

relliK 10-08-2004 10:06 PM

ok lets face it, their last album is just as good or better than their older stuff but people just refuse to open up to it.

Paranoidd 10-09-2004 01:36 AM

Riiiight.

There are two groups of people in this argument.

The people who LIKE the album and say everyone else is stupid and is trying to be cool because hating the new album is the cool thing to do, and it's a really good album, blah, blah, blah.

Then you have the people who HATE the new album and say everyone is stupid and trying to be cool because they're all over the radio and it's cool to like Slipknot now (b/c it wasn't before) and you only like mainstream and it's not as good as the old stuff and blah, blah, blah.

Both = stupid.

relliK 10-09-2004 12:53 PM

You couldnt be more wrong.

TheSubtleArts 10-09-2004 01:06 PM

my list:

1.(SiC)
2.wait & bleed
3.left behind
4.heretic anthum
5.spit it out
6.purity
7.three nil
8.eyeless
9.the shape
10.do nothing/bitch slap
11.new abortion
12.metabolic
13.the blister exits
14.opium of the people
15.my plague
16.welcome
17.disasterpiese
18.vermilion
19.people=****
20.circles
21.vermilion pt.2
22.pulse of the maggots
23.liberate
24.surfacing
25.diluted
26.duality
27.everything ends
28.the nameless
29.me inside
30.before i forget
31.eyeore
32.i am hated
33.only one
34.scream
35.prosthetics

Paranoidd 10-09-2004 01:26 PM

[QUOTE=relliK]You couldnt be more wrong.[/QUOTE]

No, I'm right. There are at least two sides to any argument, and that's the two main sides in this one. And they're both idiots.

TheSubtleArts 10-09-2004 01:34 PM

i love all 3 cds and the few songs ive heard from MFKR.

The JoZ 10-09-2004 01:58 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]Riiiight.

There are two groups of people in this argument.

The people who LIKE the album and say everyone else is stupid and is trying to be cool because hating the new album is the cool thing to do, and it's a really good album, blah, blah, blah.

Then you have the people who HATE the new album and say everyone is stupid and trying to be cool because they're all over the radio and it's cool to like Slipknot now (b/c it wasn't before) and you only like mainstream and it's not as good as the old stuff and blah, blah, blah.

Both = stupid.[/QUOTE]

For once, you're right.

It's a fad to either like the album and call others stupid if they don't...or to rip on the new album, and call Slipknot sellouts or something.

I love the album, but if someone else doesn't, their loss, not mine. Hating or liking something to follow the crowd is not cool, it's dumb, and it's one of the reasons that Slipknot fans have a huge reputation of being some of the dumbest around.

POO-CUBE 10-09-2004 02:05 PM

slipknots drummer a one nathan jordison is the best has anyone seen the drum sollo on the dvd where he is strapped in a chair and plays double pedals upside down supper supper killer fast :amaze: it is stupid how do you get that good as well as on guitar

TheSubtleArts 10-10-2004 10:46 AM

^ you talking about the disasterpieces dvd?

Paranoidd 10-10-2004 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]For once, you're right.

It's a fad to either like the album and call others stupid if they don't...or to rip on the new album, and call Slipknot sellouts or something.

I love the album, but if someone else doesn't, their loss, not mine. Hating or liking something to follow the crowd is not cool, it's dumb, and it's one of the reasons that Slipknot fans have a huge reputation of being some of the dumbest around.[/QUOTE]

Well, I'm always right but that's besides the point. :D

You're right as well though.

Anybody who calls Slipknot sell-outs are idiots. Having a different producer often has massive changes to your sound (cough cough...master of puppets with magnus...) but all Slipknot did was make a different sounding album. The album was going to sell, no matter WHAT they did to it. Honestly, it could have been polka, it would have sold. I personally think it's crap, but some of the musicianship is pretty good and you can't deny that. People hop on bandwagons too much with no clue what they're talking about.

still_not_fat 10-10-2004 11:14 AM

i thought slipknot sucked big hairy balls with cream chesse but then i heard duality and though they've gave up just making noise and started making music so i bought the album that im listening to right now and i thought christ this is great so :thumb: this rulz. and circle made my jaw hit the floor well done guys n 1 else have a similar experience??

evilmenhavenosongs 10-10-2004 11:23 AM

I agree that the new album is better and shows better skill but I still don't like it at all. There's just something about it that makes me want to pull my eardrums out rather than listen to anymore although he is a better singer than screamer.

I'm also still not understanding the masks thing; they didn't want to be known for theit image in the music industry so they wear masks which are far more noticable than their faces and always make a big fuss out of the unveiling of the new masks when they don't care about their image. if they were so worried about not being recognised in Iowa why do they still need the masks now they have security and the like unless they're worried their fanbase will desert them if they lose the masks?

I don't understand the "maggot" thing either, is it not enough to say that you are a fan of a band, or that they are your favourite band without likening yourself to a bug?

I was polite and all, more polite than I usually would have een so I expect not to be flamed back if you please.

Paranoidd 10-10-2004 11:23 AM

I got a promo of "pulse of the maggots" about a month before the album came out, and I had an opposite experience...my jaw hit the floor alright, but it was more like "what is this crap?"

If they're going to release promos, don't use the weakest track on the album :rolleyes:

why_so_green_and_lonely? 10-10-2004 11:31 AM

[QUOTE]slipknots drummer a one nathan jordison is the best has anyone seen the drum sollo on the dvd where he is strapped in a chair and plays double pedals upside down supper supper killer fast it is stupid how do you get that good as well as on guitar[/QUOTE]

hes good but he aint the best....listen to thomas lang or mike portnoy

TheSubtleArts 10-10-2004 05:21 PM

[QUOTE]I don't understand the "maggot" thing either, is it not enough to say that you are a fan of a band, or that they are your favourite band without likening yourself to a bug?[/QUOTE]

i think your taking it a little too seriously, its just what they say because people feed off thier music or whatever, just something stupid.

GnOm 10-11-2004 11:44 AM

I'm also still not understanding the masks thing; they didn't want to be known for theit image in the music industry so they wear masks which are far more noticable than their faces and always make a big fuss out of the unveiling of the new masks when they don't care about their image. if they were so worried about not being recognised in Iowa why do they still need the masks now they have security and the like unless they're worried their fanbase will desert them if they lose the masks?

I don't understand the "maggot" thing either, is it not enough to say that you are a fan of a band, or that they are your favourite band without likening yourself to a bug?
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The reason for the name Maggots: Before their big breaktrough Slipknot played a consert and it was a horde of fans and they swarmed below the stage..joey said: dude they look like maggots. And after tht they just have used the word

MASKS: They are not using masks to hide them selves...Corey said that the masks brought out all the agression they had inside and the masks hurt like crap.... you can find pictures of them unmasked....Corey and James also played/plays (dont know) in the band Stone Sour. they dont wear masks there
:thumb: you can find facts and pictures/clips/music of slipknot on [url]www.black-goat.com[/url]

GnOm 10-11-2004 11:47 AM

[QUOTE=nirvana_rulz]slipknots drummer a one nathan jordison is the best has anyone seen the drum sollo on the dvd where he is strapped in a chair and plays double pedals upside down supper supper killer fast :amaze: it is stupid how do you get that good as well as on guitar[/QUOTE]

True. the solo is so **** great i have ever seen a drumsolo like that :thumb:

evilmenhavenosongs 10-11-2004 12:37 PM

[QUOTE=GnOm]The reason for the name Maggots: Before their big breaktrough Slipknot played a consert and it was a horde of fans and they swarmed below the stage..joey said: dude they look like maggots. And after tht they just have used the word

MASKS: They are not using masks to hide them selves...Corey said that the masks brought out all the agression they had inside and the masks hurt like crap.... you can find pictures of them unmasked....Corey and James also played/plays (dont know) in the band Stone Sour. they dont wear masks there
:thumb: you can find facts and pictures/clips/music of slipknot on [url]www.black-goat.com[/url][/QUOTE]

I just think things like that sound and look like gimmicks. I thought that they were "hiding themselves" because that's what I have been told in the past. I think that the music should speak for itself and let out all the aggression they have and what not and that you don't need the masks to do that. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying that they shouldn't do it if they want to, it just seems rather pointless and juvenile to me and stops people who might otherwise be fans from getting into their music.

TheSubtleArts 10-11-2004 03:11 PM

thier masks reflect thier personalities and thier music. they want everything to be about the music, sound, appearence, stage presence, they think it helps you "feel" the music

Paranoidd 10-11-2004 03:29 PM

^^^

Thats actually a very feasible explanation.

evilmenhavenosongs 10-11-2004 03:31 PM

Yes, I'll accept it I just always wondered. I have nothing aagainst putting on a show like Adam Ant did or any death metal bands do I just don't like "maggots" who try to explain how deep and meaningful it really is. I still partly believe it's a gimmick though.

Paranoidd 10-11-2004 03:37 PM

It definitely has gimmick qualities. I mean, you could put two identical looking bands side by side, one with masks and the other without, and tell me who is more interesting to look at?

evilmenhavenosongs 10-11-2004 03:40 PM

Every successful band has a gimmick even if it is the lack of a gimmick.


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