Two of my favorite rock singers (PAUL STANLEY of KISS and Steve Whiteman of KIX) have lisps and it really doesnt matter. They make up for it by being great vocalist's and you can too for that matter

Yea for some reason this forum usually is pretty cool. Now if you go in the pit its like no holds barred in there. Some threads are just typical. LIke Rock and metal..of course there's gonna be a lot of mochismo. Probably wont find any in piano...etc, etc. hehe.

Yea many teachers tell you to kinda exaggerate words so that all of the word is sung. This can help too.

Heres something I found in SINGING FOR DUMMIES

"If you have problems with a lisp, make sure that your S is made with the tip of the tongue against the roof of your mouth (not your teeth) while the sides of your tongue are touching your teeth. If you S sounds too similar to a leaky tire, you need to release the grip on the tip of your tongue. Practice saying the word PIZZA. Hesitate on the first part of the Z (the t sound moves into sah). Release the air slowly to feel and hear the S. Take some time and hold out the S sound to feel the movement of the airflow."

Don't know how much that'll help but its the only thing i've ever seen on the subject in my books

I suggest you just practice s's ...but i suggest you do it normally but with the teeth clenched shut. It will help train the tongue and you can eventually work a new habit into its placement for a clean sound. I dont know..try both ways and see what helps for you.

I was going post a thread about singing, but I saw this thread...

Anyway, I have the vocal range that I want. I have no problems there... but what can I do to get a purer sounding voice? I have a airy, breathy voice, and I want to get a pure voice. For example, like Jeff Buckley, Muse, Radiohead, Coldplay, Keane, etc...

Any tips?

[QUOTE=Jovianknight]I was going post a thread about singing, but I saw this thread...

Anyway, I have the vocal range that I want. I have no problems there... but what can I do to get a purer sounding voice? I have a airy, breathy voice, and I want to get a pure voice. For example, like Jeff Buckley, Muse, Radiohead, Coldplay, Keane, etc...

Any tips?[/QUOTE]


Can you post a sample of your voice? Maybe sing something by one of those artists.

[QUOTE=Jovianknight]I was going post a thread about singing, but I saw this thread...

Anyway, I have the vocal range that I want. I have no problems there... but what can I do to get a purer sounding voice? I have a airy, breathy voice, and I want to get a pure voice. For example, like Jeff Buckley, Muse, Radiohead, Coldplay, Keane, etc...

Any tips?[/QUOTE]

I would recommend making sure youre using proper technique and breath support. And do vocal workouts so that your strength level will be more than adequate. Like, if you can only benchpress 200 pounds then it will be hard to to 190 a lot. But if you can bench 400, you can do 190 a hell of a lot better. Thats why so many screamers can sing well. You have to be able to close up the cords tight around the air. When you sing there is nothing constant. The cords are actually basically pooting....or poofing air like 200 hundred or so times a second open and close and open and close etc. So if you have flexible and strong cords they can do this tighter which leads to better tone, clarity, less breathiness, more stamina, etc. ...

What kind of style did John Lennon have? My sister said I kinda sound like a female version of him, (not bad) maybe I just sing from my throat

[QUOTE=Jovianknight]I was going post a thread about singing, but I saw this thread...

Anyway, I have the vocal range that I want. I have no problems there... but what can I do to get a purer sounding voice? I have a airy, breathy voice, and I want to get a pure voice. For example, like Jeff Buckley, Muse, Radiohead, Coldplay, Keane, etc...

Any tips?[/QUOTE]

here's some advice on how to make a more gut sounding voice and make it less airy:

sit up straight (or stand)
put your hand on you stomach and tense up your ab muscles
that's what you should be doing when you sing the way you're asking to
also pay attention to the air passing through your nose it might add to the breathy sound you're getting

all in all sing out of your gut and not your chest... it's almost like thowing up the notes :)

[QUOTE=Nick Morzov]here's some advice on how to make a more gut sounding voice and make it less airy:

sit up straight (or stand)
put your hand on you stomach and tense up your ab muscles
that's what you should be doing when you sing the way you're asking to
also pay attention to the air passing through your nose it might add to the breathy sound you're getting

all in all sing out of your gut and not your chest... it's almost like thowing up the notes :)[/QUOTE]

sup bitch

[QUOTE=Rats]sup bitch[/QUOTE]

dude check out the metallica thread. i said lars sucks and all hell broke loose :lol:

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]What kind of style did John Lennon have? My sister said I kinda sound like a female version of him, (not bad) maybe I just sing from my throat[/QUOTE]
I cant really remember what he sounds like. But does it matter? Style wise...

if youre singing from your throat then you can definitely get better.

[QUOTE=Nick Morzov]here's some advice on how to make a more gut sounding voice and make it less airy:

sit up straight (or stand)
put your hand on you stomach and tense up your ab muscles
that's what you should be doing when you sing the way you're asking to
also pay attention to the air passing through your nose it might add to the breathy sound you're getting

all in all sing out of your gut and not your chest... it's almost like thowing up the notes :)[/QUOTE]
I was gonna refute this post but its pretty accurate. The only thing is to make sure you dont squeeze your abs like youre crunching. You should kinda think about them coming up and in not just tensing. But yes, its kinda like throwing up notes.

Hi, I'm not sure if I'm breathing properly. I'm trying lying on the floor, book on my stomach and breathing in to push it up but I can't tell if I'm doing it right or just breathing in (the wrong way) and pushing my stomach out myself without realising (if that makes sense). Like sometimes I'll still be taking some air in when my stomach seems to be outward as much as it can manage. Is there any clear way to tell if you're doing the breathing correctly, or any advice?

Thanks
Mike

...book on your stomach....RELAX and just take a slow deep breath. The book should move first before your chest rises. RELAX! and just breath. Some people just draw their stomachs in when they take deep breaths and you dont want to do that and if you relax you wont. Dont over think this stuff.

i just tried out for a metal band yesterday and today my throat and all that is hurting like hell....they want me to do a really deep scream...i did it and it didnt hurt but when i would do other screams like higher pitch ones it made my throat hurt...i know im not doing stuff right....oh and that deep scream i cant do it constantly..i will do it once and then try to do it again and i cant...so like i said its not consistant....i dont know if its because i havent been in a band for awhile and my cords are out of shape...i am really serious about this...oh and i also heard that gargling helps strengthen your cords...i also heard you use vinegar...everyone on here seems cool and seems like they want to help...and help is what i need..thanks

Gargling is not going to strengthen your cords at all. The only time gargling helps your voice is when you gargle warm salt water to bring up mucus when your sick and have too much coating your throat.

ok now i'm cutting a long storie short to ask for a few really needed tips here...see, i'm recording with my band in two weeks and i have a small problem that might become a big embaresing problem...i ****ing **** myself when i'm standing in front of the anti pop filter and the mic...like i get all tense, my chest feels like it's compresed, same as live...an dit's really hard to sing properly!!!! how can i do to get a little more confidente?! and yeah also, i think my voice is still braking so that's maybe where this second problem comes from...sometimes when i sing with my band, my voice suddenly goes like IIIIi really loud and extremly high pitched for like half a second and it burns my throat something awfull!!! what the **** is happening!? and yeah after like 2 hours of singing sometimes i get really tired and can hardly talk...i must b doing something wrong no? last thing, what kind of singer (alto, mezzo...) is the funeral for a friend singer? go check him out [url]www.purevolume.com/funeralforafriend[/url]
thanx in advance

Hey, I was wondering if there was a way to become a good singer. I really like singing and when I sing along with music I think I sound okay but I have recorded myself singing and I just sound like I'm talking, not singing and it sounds like crap. Just wondering if anyone can help me out. Thanks.

you want romance? ,
check out this article....



"Approaching the Studio"
(. . . and how to leave with something worth while)
by Mark Baxter

Sooner or later you’ll have to go in there, and sooner or later you’ll have to come out.
For some, the studio is a haven for creation. The controlled environment provides a cocoon for exploring a song. People who love to record, though, are usually reluctant to release their creations into the hostile acoustics of the real world. Instead, their songs remain a work-in-progress as they claim a quest for perfection. This is not the greatest way to move a career forward. For the rest of us, the studio is a vacuum. Not only does it suck the cash from our wallets, it drains our music of its energy. It’s frustrating when that beer-soaked, sweaty stage vibe you’ve become known for never makes it on tape. Obviously, we can’t hold the studio responsible (although many do); a studio is just a room full of equipment. The problem lies within. As soon as the red light comes on we try too hard or become self-conscious. Overcoming this anxiety, can be as simple as adjusting your prospective going in.

Singing on stage is different than singing in a studio, just like acting on Broadway is not the same as acting in a movie. However, singers have to work in both forums while actors normally focus on one. Treating the studio like a live gig is a typical error in approach. No one cares if a vocal was recorded in one pass, yet lots of singers feel embarrassed when they require multiple takes. What matters is the end result. Like a movie, the singing you hear on CD’s is really a quilt of the best phrases seamlessly sewn together. It’s not cheating; it takes stamina and a mental focus to maintain vocal continuity for several hours. In other words, chops. This doesn’t have to result in a sterile recording. Even after many rehearsals, actors often screw up their lines when shooting a film. Sometimes the mistakes work better than the original idea. It takes a good director to know when to wrap a scene.

When recording, a producer plays the role of movie director. It’s his or her job to organize the project before approaching the studio and then to inspire better performances once recording begins. Unfortunately, many bands choose to save money by producing themselves and wind up paying in the end by wasting time on a demo which falls short of their potential. There is a physical connection when you perform and it’s hard to separate the effort from the outcome. A producer provides an invaluable overview. Incidentally, it’s a dependence on the physical side of performing which tends to make people say that your band "sounds" better live. During a gig, your fans witness your effort and that plays heavily in their experience of a song. Recording, though, is like playing a concert for the blind. Without the visual aspect, your music may not have as much impact as you think. It usually takes an outside observer to suggest some changes. If you can’t afford a producer, spread your recording session out over many weeks. Let some time pass by before listening to rough mixes in order to gain a fresh perspective on what you’ve done.

Recording also requires an adjustment in the way you rehearse. It’s amazing how many people enter the studio over-anxious and under prepared. There’s no excuse for a band to engage in momentum killing arguments over a song they’ve been playing for a year. Get it right before the clock starts ticking. Rehearse the recording process, not just the song. Use a four track cassette deck and run through the steps just as you will in the studio. Everyone should know what everyone else is playing. To relieve "red light fever," get into the habit of recording rehearsals. Experience will show that the best performances come once everyone forgets that tape is rolling -- a simple but important point to remember, every time you approach the studio.

I would had just posted the link but it wouldnt work for some reason...

[QUOTE=darksoul0013]i just tried out for a metal band yesterday and today my throat and all that is hurting like hell....they want me to do a really deep scream...i did it and it didnt hurt but when i would do other screams like higher pitch ones it made my throat hurt...i know im not doing stuff right....oh and that deep scream i cant do it constantly..i will do it once and then try to do it again and i cant...so like i said its not consistant....i dont know if its because i havent been in a band for awhile and my cords are out of shape...i am really serious about this...oh and i also heard that gargling helps strengthen your cords...i also heard you use vinegar...everyone on here seems cool and seems like they want to help...and help is what i need..thanks[/QUOTE]
If youre REALLY serious then you wont mind reading through this informative forum. and be sure to read everything in this thread.... [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]

You should never have pain ever when doing vocals of any kind. Period. And gargling with vinegar only helps to reduce a bit of the mucus associated with alot of singing or screaming. But no, gargling will not strengthen your cords...why/how would it? The only thing that strengthens the cords and the muscles are the things that strengthen all of the other parts of the body. a thorough warm up so that youre working them and not fatiguing them,Repitition, proper technique, and increasing resitance over time...followed by a warm down. Now go read through that link and realize how much you didnt know when its explained in easily understood ways, and feel excited about how much you will soon know and grow. If you dont get in that band or the next, then it wasnt meant to be, for a reason, so dont fret. It could be your opportunity for you to realize how much you can grow and how much better you can become. Almost to the point to where you feel like the band is trying out for you.

[QUOTE=you want romance?]ok now i'm cutting a long storie short to ask for a few really needed tips here...see, i'm recording with my band in two weeks and i have a small problem that might become a big embaresing problem...i ****ing **** myself when i'm standing in front of the anti pop filter and the mic...like i get all tense, my chest feels like it's compresed, same as live...an dit's really hard to sing properly!!!! how can i do to get a little more confidente?! and yeah also, i think my voice is still braking so that's maybe where this second problem comes from...sometimes when i sing with my band, my voice suddenly goes like IIIIi really loud and extremly high pitched for like half a second and it burns my throat something awfull!!! what the **** is happening!? and yeah after like 2 hours of singing sometimes i get really tired and can hardly talk...i must b doing something wrong no? last thing, what kind of singer (alto, mezzo...) is the funeral for a friend singer? go check him out [url]www.purevolume.com/funeralforafriend[/url]
thanx in advance[/QUOTE]
First off the link doesnt work. And if its a guy its probably baritone or tenor if its a girl it could alto or soprano....what difference would it make to you? None.

For one...if youre that tense then your voice is gonna break. It goes hand in hand. Tensing also makes you over push which will cause breaks of course. Youre tense because you dont know what youre doing..lets face it. If you knew hands down...then you wouldnt get tense would you? So first find out what youre doing. You need to practice so that youre not trying to sing in the wrong voice which will greatly increase breaks. i.e. know where your falsetto starts. [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]

When recording singing in a home studio what effects should you use, what else can you do to make it sound better?

chorus maybe? try things out and use what you like the most :)

ScorpSath,
Reverb is used most often. Flange, chorus, harmonizers, compression, theres all kinds of things. None are really going to improve the actually ability of you to sing, they'll just make your voice sound thicker in some cases. A lot of people use pro tools and autotune which is what all the Britney Spears, Ashlee Simpson type people use who can't really sing in tune. I prefer a vocalist who can actually sing, thats why I respect singers more when they've taken lessons and actually learned how to sing instead of relying on machines to help them do it.

Barclay,
As usual lessons are the only way you'll improve a great deal. I would say just keep singing, but that can usually do more damage than good by using improper technique. Search all over the net for free websites with articles, and get on Ebay or Amazon and get yourself some books on singing technique. Read reviews for yourself and decide what will help you the most. Set up a practice routine and try to keep with it. Always warm up on exercises from books, lessons, or websites. It'll help your stanima, and more importantly it will help improve your singing. Doing exercises are really the only thing that helps a lot with improving your abilities.

Thanks.

yea...what auz said

falsetto
 

hi i was just wondering if i could get any tips to strengthen and improve my singing, espeially my falsetto. i would like to strengthen it to be able to scream.

also, can anyone post how to do vibrato? i have no clue how to do it

heres a link to my soundclick
[URL=http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/lloydapaloozamusic.htm]soundclick[/URL]

read the thread and merkaba's voice help hotline

I've got a question about a singing technique. How does one sing 'scratchy?' A good example, Twist and Shout by the Beatles. It's a clean yet scratchy voice, beautiful.