Folk Metal? ;)

Where would Nine Inch Nails fall?

industrial

You would consider Mudvayne Nu-metal? They are a recent band, but the members are all very good at what they do. The music isn't simple at all. I think it is down tuned, but I can't think of many current metal bands that aren't. I'd call them agro metal.

My favorite metal genre would be Power but i´ve been browsing several pages of this thread and have not found any def. of Power metal. Does any one have a def. if so please post it.

well i liked hair metal from the 80s ,death metal, heavy metal, thrash and obvisioly speed metal.... cannibal corpse is the speed metal

nice job, u must really now ur stuff man cause in flames isn't too well know from what i know were i live, alot of ppl r like who, once agian great job

system of a down-------------------------------------the rest of the bands in the nu metal scene

very opposite. how would one catagorize system? what kinds of blends would one use to describe them? every member of the band has a different taste musically. so all together they are something out of the ordinary.if they are in the same genre as linkin park, something is wrong here. a little help?

I think Opeth should've been put in the progressive-metal category, a very good list though.

[QUOTE=NeedMoreEmo]Folk Metal? ;)[/QUOTE]

Hehe, give Finntroll a good listen.

I think a lot of people probably get confused classifying music because of hybrid bands like SOAD and maybe pantera.

[QUOTE=super_riff13]nice job, u must really now ur stuff man cause in flames isn't too well know from what i know were i live, alot of ppl r like who, once agian great job[/QUOTE]


actually in flames is becoming pretty well known mostly due to their release of the album soundtrack to your escape you can find that cd almost anywhere

in flames have been pretty popular before soundtrack to your escape

well there still not too popular round me it pretty much me n my friends n then a few others that actually know bout them

Ive said it a billion times and Ill said it again:

Like StupidJew said, all members of SOAD have multiple musical tastes.
(Darron into the old metal)
(Shavo into Industrial and Armenian Folk)
(Serj into Armenian folk)
(John into Jazz/Fusion)
WHEN MULTIPLE THINGS COME TOGETHER ITS CONSIDERED "Ecelctic" which means collected. Therefore SOAD are dubbed (by the very members....) *Eclectic Metal*

And the guy who said Mudvayne should be Agro Metal? the hell is agro metal - Mudvayne is math metal.

Annddddd I saw In Flames on MTV.... how are they not known of?

And Opeth is progressive/Melodic Death Metal just to clear things up

what about swedish death metal or "the gothenburg sound" i know its a sub genre but its worth its own title, in flames, at the gates( a little ), dark tranquillity are all in there and they are my personal favorite bands they all started in the city of gothenburg it is basicly melodic death but it is a little different.

im talking about in flames old stuff here not there new stuff its nu-metal now,(mainstream ugh..) but there old stuff is the best stuff in the world( only my opinion of course)

Why the hell does everyone bitch and moan about mainstream.... GOOD JOB. YOUR BAND MAKES MONEY. Its about the music... not the image... unless your a tool. Metallica got famous... they are still good. Slayer got famous, they are still good, Megadeath got famous, and so did pantera and tons of other bands (not just the trash metal bands) anyways, this isnt punk rock where the little mowhawk kids get mad when they hear their song anywhere but on an 8 inch...

[QUOTE=Cacophonious]Why the hell does everyone bitch and moan about mainstream.... GOOD JOB. YOUR BAND MAKES MONEY. Its about the music... not the image... unless your a tool. Metallica got famous... they are still good. Slayer got famous, they are still good, Megadeath got famous, and so did pantera and tons of other bands (not just the trash metal bands) anyways, this isnt punk rock where the little mowhawk kids get mad when they hear their song anywhere but on an 8 inch...[/QUOTE]


Yeah, really. I don;t understand it either. Bands can be popular and good at the same time. BTW...what exactly is your idea of "popular"? I would not call In Flames popular. of 300 people, there might be 10 that have heard of In Flames (In my area). I don't consider that popular. In STYE's first week on the charts it hit #145 or something like that. I don't call that popular either, but I don't really care. IMO, they're a great band, and they should be more popular than they are.

BTW - Agro metal = Agressive metal; another sub genre.

Great job of classification. It's nice to see someone that doesn't put Linkin Park in the same catagory with Six Feet Under. I also think it's good that you know what you are talking about. There are a lot of people that try to say something, but come out ounding like idiots because they have no idea what they are talking about. I especially like the parenthesised bit about Carcass. As a Carcass fan (hense the name) I found it refreshing to find somone that actually knows about them. If you know much about Carcass, and you are of the same mind of me, you know that earlier Carcass was more Grind Core than anything else. Thanks for puting all the genre mixing to rest.

Hey I totally have to go along with Cacophonious and InFlames.KsE. Yes Inflames got popular, but by no means do they suck now. Yes older Inflames is better, but it's going too far by labeling them as Nu-metal. I don't think Trapt and Inflames will be touring together any time soon. Also just as stated before, bands get popular. If no bands ever got popular then no one would know who the hell they are.

I have to agree with most of what you said here. Though I am not an Opeth fan I agree witht he classification. I find Opeth to be a little confusing for mainly one reason. The vocals. I just don't see how Mikael Akerfeldt could be such a bad singer in Opeth, and then be a phenomenal singer in Bloodbath. For This I am half dissappointed that Mikael is leaving Bloodbath. Luckily Peter Tagtgren from Hypocrisy will be taking his place.

[QUOTE=disturbed1]1:hes not saying that theyre anything like LP or pod. they would have (if legion would have taken the time to specify) fit into a copletely different sub-topic than mudvayne or slipknot(which im not so fond of). chill out!

2:i dont care much for LP park either but i dont coplain about, i ask questions

3:whats wrong with pod(please answer) :cool:[/QUOTE]

POD sucks. They dont know how to play instruments, all their music sounds the same, and they have this christian rap thing going. it sounds like crap.

nice work man its a good thing you didnt branch off into all of the sub catigories because it would have caused more controversy but you summed it up pretty nicely man

Heh i enjoyed reading this flamefest. However can't we just call music, music? And am i the only one who will just listen instead of trying to work out genres and so on...while im posting, catogorise HIM

[QUOTE=LegionsofMarduk]At the request of the mods, I'm making this thread to get stickied. Seeing as how there are numerous threads asking "What's the difference between genre X and genre Y?", hopefully this will curb some of those. NOTE: This is a very general guideline and not a definitive carved in stone definition. While I may put a band in with one genre, that doesn't mean that they might not fit into more than one sub-genre. I think most people here know my main area of interest is death and black metal so if you disagree with some of my opinions or band lists...fine.

[U]Traditional heavy Metal[/U]
This is kind of a "catch all". There are plenty of sub-genres, but there are lots of bands that don't fit any sub-genre and can't really be called anything except "heavy metal". This can be basically anything from the old school British heavy metal invation to the newer stuff coming out today (not to be confused with nu-metal). This is what most people think of when they hear "Power metal" or such terms. Lots of different styles can be considered traditional heavy metal. Some bands: Iron Maiden, Judas Preist, Iced Earth, Godsmack, Manowar, Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall etc etc etc etc.

[U]Thrash metal[/U]
Thrash really started to come into play in the early 1980's. It was in one way, an answer to the more popular "hair metal" bands of the time. Thrash grew out of older metal such as Black Sabbath combined with chunkier riffs, speed, agrresive vocals, and even some punk. Thrash metal is concentrated more heavily on speed and aggression than it's predacessors. Key bands: Metallica (old stuff), Slayer, Anthrax, Kreator, Sodom, Megadeth, Exodus, Overkill, Nuclear Assault, Sabbat (UK), Darkane etc etc.

[U]Doom Metal[/U]
Where thrash metal concentrates on being fast and aggressive, doom concentrates on being slower, lower and groovier. Many consider Black Sabbath to be the fathers of doom. Typically the music is slow and heavy. Guitars are tuned down and the vocals are usually clean, although growls do slip in on occasion. Also, while death and black metal are generally more aggressive lyrically, doom metal is very meloncholic, depressive and gives an extremly dark vibe. The music can range quite a bit from the extremely slloooooow all clean vocals, to the faster (but still relatively slow) doom/death bands. Check out [url]http://www.doom-metal.com[/url] for some good information and a pretty large list of bands. Key bands: Candlemass, St. Vitus, Unsilence, My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Paradise Lost etc etc.

[U]Death Metal[/U]
Death metal is the opposite end of the spectrum from doom metal. There are a few different schools of death metal. Generally speaking though, the music is fast, aggressive, low. The bass line is usually more pronounced than in other metal sub-genres. The vocal style is trademark to death metal. Usually vocals are growled or grunted. Blast beat drums are very prevalent. The most common misconception is that death metal is all about death and gore and killing and the likes. This is most certainly not the case. While many bands do sing about this type of thing, there are tons of great bands that do not limit themselves to lyrics like that. Lyrics can range to include religion, spirituality, fantasy and beyond. The music can range from the very aggressive and brutal (Aborted, Iniquity, Suffocation) to the more melodic (Ebony Tears, At The Gates) to the very technical (Atheist, Cynic). Key bands: Lykathea Aflame, Mithras, Morbid Angel, Behemoth (older stuff was black metal), Opeth, Immolation, Blood Red Throne, Entombed, Unleashed, Sinners Bleed.

[U]Melodic death metal[/U]
An obvious sub-genre to death metal, it's becoming popular enough that I think it deserves it's own little section. Basically, it incorporates more melody. What it lacks in brutallity, it more than makes up for in melodic grooves. The vocals are typically not as harsh, there may or may not be as many blast beats. Key Bands: At The Gates, In Flames, Ebony Tears, Carcass (Heartwork mainly), Aeternus, Amon Amarth, Kalmah, Norther.

[U]Black Metal[/U]
My own personaly favorite and particular area of expertise. Black metal and death metal are quite closely related. While death is focused on the shear brutallity, black metal is focused more on creating atmosphere. The music is typically higher pitched with less of a bass line. Some bands incorporate the use of keyboards or synthesizers. The production is quite often pretty bad giving it a raw or "trOO necro" quality. Tremelo picking abounds, blast beats are not as prevalent as in death metal but are still there quite often. The vocals are generally high pitched shreiked or screamed. The music can range from the "trOO necro" bands (Darkthrone) to the more melodic (Naglfar) to the very sophisticated orchestral atmospheric (Arcturus). A common misconception about black metal is that all the bands are Satanist and sing about Satan. While many bands are Satanic or anti-christian (note the distinct difference), that is not the case with all black metal bands. Lyrics can range from Satanic to fantasy to witchcraft to just about anything. Many black metal bands are very paganistic in ideology and see the christian church as an intruder in their native lands, leading to the very deep seeded hatred for christianity. Unfortunately, black metal also has a sub-genre known as NSBM. National Socialist Black Metal. While I do listen to quite a few of those bands because I like the music, lyrically many black metal bands are very racist against not only Blacks or Jews, but anyone of non-aryan decent. Key bands: Burzum, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Nargaroth, Emperor, Bathory, Immortal, Beherit, Graveland, Gorgoroth, Moonblood, Samael.

[U]Progressive metal[/U]
A newer genre (relatively speaking), prog metal incorporates the general aggression of heavy metal with the progressive rock sound of the late 70's. Generally speaking, the music has lots of different aspects including key and time changes, unique riffing and such. The level of musicianship is typically extremly high. Dream Theater is by far the most popular band in this genre. The music is generally quite technical. Key Bands: Dream Theater, Queensryche, Spiral Architect, Spastic Ink, Aghora, Gordian Knot, Racer X.

[U]Nu-metal[/U]
Nu-metal is the newest craze to hit mainstream rock radio. Without trying to bash it too much, generally speaking the music structure is very simplistic. Lyrics cover subjects that are close to todays teens (depression, abuse, drugs etc). There are very few guitar solos and the one's that are there are typically very simple and short. Vocals can range from the more metal influenced to a fusion of metal and rap. Guitars are often downtuned or drop tuned. This genre is generally not very popular among listeners of other metal music, but it is the newest craze and therefore very promoted and heavily played on the radio. Bands: Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Linkin Park, Disturbed.


Again...this is NOT a definitive list. It not by any stretch of the imagination complete. I'm sure if we really wanted to we could come up with a good 20 or so more sub-genres. It is meant as a [i]general[/i] guideline for the noob who's just getting into metal that otherwise would have posted a "What's the difference" thread. Feel free to agree or disagree. With any genre, there are bands that cross over and blur the lines. Your best bet if you're new to any genre of metal is to go out find a list of bands in the genre you're interested in. Download a couple songs from a bunch of different bands and then make your own distinctions.[/QUOTE]


ur the first ive seen who can fully describe some, if not, any type of metal.
there's also speed metal, and neo-metal which might be the same as nu-metal :thumb: :) :chug:

i disagree that slipknot is nu-metal. they're more hardcore than you think. some say they're shock rock. i'm just not really sure. but i really doubt that we can classify linkin park and slipknot in the same category...

dude how the hell do u make a poll? its not workin 4 me...

Slipknot are not hardcore, and shock rock isn't even a genre. To make a poll, start a new thread and check the box "Include a poll" before clicking Submit New Thread.

tx i found it out with the faqs tho lol