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classicrockman 11-14-2005 07:15 PM

Okay, I have all of Dream Theater's albums execpt for 'When Dream & Day Unite' and 'Scenes From A Memory.'

I heard that WDADU kinda sucks becuase of the singer, and that SFAM is [I]too[/I] progressive. So I'm sort of holding out on both.

Which of those albums should I get next?

bwnstl 11-14-2005 07:24 PM

Definitely SFAM. WDADU is just bad. Bad recording quality so you can't easily hear the brilliance of the musicianship and bad singer, so.....yeah.

classicrockman 11-14-2005 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=bwnstl]Definitely SFAM. WDADU is just bad. Bad recording quality so you can't easily hear the brilliance of the musicianship and bad singer, so.....yeah.[/QUOTE]
Is it easy to listen to? 'Cause I heard that's the hardest part about that album.

Lord Abortion 11-14-2005 07:26 PM

SFAM...hands down, just get the live versions of the WDADU songs with James on...easy as pie.

classicrockman 11-14-2005 07:28 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]SFAM...hands down, just get the live versions of the WDADU songs with James on...easy as pie.[/QUOTE]
The thing with SFAM is that to some DT fans, It's their best album, and others...it's their worst.

ghettoeddo 11-14-2005 08:55 PM

i've got every album except WDADU (and live CD's) and i don't feel complete without it.

i'm sure there's something to like on it right? i didn't really like "only a matter of time" off of budokan.

ghettoeddo 11-14-2005 10:22 PM

i like how the site turns blue once you log in :]

anyway, has anyone heard james labrie's solo CD "elements of persuasion?"
i think it's phenomenal, especially the slower, mellower tracks...

and the guitarrist he uses, marco sfogli? he cites petrucci as one of his influences and that definitely shows :] amazing guy and he's only 24 O_O

nowitzki 11-15-2005 05:43 AM

[QUOTE=classicrockman]The thing with SFAM is that to some DT fans, It's their best album, and others...it's their worst.[/QUOTE]

Are you insane?!? I have never heard a DT fan in my life who has called SFAM their worst album. Most fans rate it as one of, if not the best.
I didn't find it difficult to listen to at all, it was the 2nd DT album I ever listened to after ToT, and I listened to it all the way through and it blew me away. Whereas a lot of their other albums (i.e. Awake) I didn't enjoy until after quite a few listens.

In conclusion, get SFAM now!

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]i've got every album except WDADU (and live CD's) and i don't feel complete without it.

i'm sure there's something to like on it right? i didn't really like "only a matter of time" off of budokan.[/QUOTE]

It does have some great songs, Charlies voice can be a little annoying however.
The live versions of the songs with James are much better, (there's a couple on Live at the Marquee).
You don't like Only a Matter of Time? I think it's a really good song.

Lord Abortion 11-15-2005 08:43 AM

SFAM is my thrid favourite DT album, behind I&W And ToT, but just ahead of octavarium.

the2stranger 11-15-2005 08:51 AM

IMO

I&W>SFAM

so I recommend you getting that first.
SFAM is great stuff though, but it can't top I&W imo

Lord Abortion 11-15-2005 08:55 AM

[QUOTE=the2stranger]IMO

I&W>SFAM

so I recommend you getting that first.
SFAM is great stuff though, but it can't top I&W imo[/QUOTE]
There is very little I have ever heard that tops I&W...

I could say a couple of maiden albums, but nothing else...

the2stranger 11-15-2005 08:58 AM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]There is very little I have ever heard that tops I&W...

I could say a couple of maiden albums, but nothing else...[/QUOTE]


indeed, the album is so well balanced and just...perfect.
and not to forget it has LaBrie's finest vocal work.

the high notes on Learning To Live
/drool

nowitzki 11-15-2005 11:28 AM

[QUOTE=the2stranger]IMO

I&W>SFAM

so I recommend you getting that first.
SFAM is great stuff though, but it can't top I&W imo[/QUOTE]

He said he already had every album except for SFAM and WDADU.

classicrockman 11-15-2005 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=nowitzki]He said he already had every album except for SFAM and WDADU.[/QUOTE]
Yeah...but with all of what you guys said earlier...I'll get SFAM.

I'm not in a hurry though.

scenesfromatheater 11-15-2005 04:44 PM

Who wants to hear my rankings of the albums??? What?...all of you? OK then:naughty: .

I&W
SFAM
TOT
6DOIT
8V
Awake
FII
WDADU

Twas hard to not put any = or /'s in there...:upset: .

Lord Abortion 11-15-2005 05:28 PM

If you swap 8vm and 6DOIT round, that's mine, too... and ToT and SFAM, as I said earlier.

scenesfromatheater 11-15-2005 05:31 PM

Lord Abortion's rankings...

I&W
TOT
SFAM
8V
6DOIT
Awake
FII
WDADU

I am so cool:cool:

temporary 11-15-2005 05:54 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]There is very little I have ever heard that tops I&W...

I could say a couple of maiden albums, but nothing else...[/QUOTE]

I&W is perfect, seriously. Theres not a single track which I think they could do without. The musicianship is miles above the bar. A few albums do top it though.

My list goes something like this:

I&W
SFAM
ACOS
TOT
Awake
6DOIT
8vm
FII (Haven't heard all of this, but barring Lines in the Sand, its all bad)
WDADU (Once more, haven't heard this all, but its all bad. Live versions with James are very tastfull, though)

eighty d 11-15-2005 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=Obi One Kenodi]FII (Haven't heard all of this, but barring Lines in the Sand, its all bad)[/QUOTE]

i don't think it's as bad of an album as everyone says it is. lines in the sand, as you said, is a very good song, so is peruvian skies, and trial of tears is on of my favorite dream theater songs.

songs like just let me breathe and burning my soul really are terrible though. never EVER write songs about dissatisfaction with your record label.

my list would go:
6DOIT (seriously underrated)
Awake
I&W
SFAM
8V
TOT
FII
WDADU

Lord Abortion 11-15-2005 06:50 PM

[QUOTE]never EVER write songs about dissatisfaction with your record label.[/QUOTE]
Hey, the Smiths managed it brilliantly with Frankly, Mr Shankly

eighty d 11-15-2005 06:59 PM

since i haven't heard that song, i'll narrow my statement down to just saying that mike portnoy should not write about his record label troubles. his effort came out somewhat less than brilliant.

ghettoeddo 11-15-2005 09:27 PM

to me, on I&W, pull me under sounds a tad out of place, but it's a great song nonetheless. it just doesn't seem to "fit" with the rest of the album.

im definitely saying:
SFAM
I&W
ToT
6DOIT (goodnight kiss outro solo anyone?)
8VM
Awake
FII

cant say anything abt WDADU yet...

Darkness 11-15-2005 10:16 PM

I never really liked Pull Me Under that much... just don't see the magic. :upset:

.:Thrasher:. 11-16-2005 02:20 AM

can somone tell me there greatest song please

The_Riddler 11-16-2005 02:25 AM

[QUOTE=.:Thrasher:.]can somone tell me there greatest song please[/QUOTE]

Octavarium is my favorite song of theirs...

Anyway, I have been listening to Awake more and I now am obsessed with the second half of the cd. My favorite song is probably the last song on there "Space-Dye Vest". The piano is just so great hearing, I love piano mixed into rock songs, to me it just gives it more atmosphere. Obviously I can say the same for keyboards, but I hope you guys understand my point.

nowitzki 11-16-2005 04:45 AM

[QUOTE=.:Thrasher:.]can somone tell me there greatest song please[/QUOTE]

With a band as varied as DT it's hard to pick one song that shows everything that they are capable of. I agree with Octavarium, then probably Metropolis Pt. 1 and A Change Of Seasons as well.

[QUOTE=The_Riddler]Anyway, I have been listening to Awake more and I now am obsessed with the second half of the cd. My favorite song is probably the last song on there "Space-Dye Vest". The piano is just so great hearing, I love piano mixed into rock songs, to me it just gives it more atmosphere. Obviously I can say the same for keyboards, but I hope you guys understand my point.[/QUOTE]

I'm exactly the same, the 2nd half of Awake is amazing. I love Lifting Shadows Off A Dream.

scenesfromatheater 11-16-2005 04:46 AM

[QUOTE=.:Thrasher:.]can somone tell me there greatest song please[/QUOTE]
A Change of Seasons
Octavarium
Metropolis pt. 1
Learning to Live

They're my personal faves:thumb: .

tehnick 11-16-2005 06:03 AM

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]I have that video. Post your E-Mails and I'll upload it.

nowitzki is right about the quality though. It's not brilliant.[/QUOTE]


Is this the one from Japan?

Metal_head45 11-16-2005 06:38 AM

[QUOTE=.:Thrasher:.]can somone tell me there greatest song please[/QUOTE]

Metropolis pt 1 and the glass prison (13 minutes of pure magic imo).

Lord Abortion 11-16-2005 08:39 AM

I like surrounded and space dye vest best...

The live version of the former is magnificent.

I like pull me under alot, the chorus is great and it's good for getting people into DT, because it's not too proggy and more of a song for people who aren't diehard DT fans...


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