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BridgeToSolace 12-11-2005 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=Fire Whispers]I didn't even learn how to stay in key during lessons. I know all the keys though so..[/QUOTE]

Most of the stuff I play ends up being in C.

What notes are there in the key of C?

C D E F G A B

That means, as long as you use those notes, and not any others (although some others probably wouldn't sound bad), you'll be on key.

Which also means you should learn where the notes are on the neck. At least on the E and A string so you can find the others by using octave chords.

BridgeToSolace 12-11-2005 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution]Jon: Eh, use it in a fast metal setting :)

Noice pic.[/QUOTE]

Bah, I like mid-tempo metal.

It's fake, but it's niiiccee.

B 12-11-2005 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Most of the stuff I play ends up being in C.

What notes are there in the key of C?

C D E F G A B

That means, as long as you use those notes, and not any others (although some others probably wouldn't sound bad), you'll be on key.

Which also means you should learn where the notes are on the neck. At least on the E and A string so you can find the others by using octave chords.[/QUOTE]
C is generally the easiest to play in. I find anyways. I know where most notes are on E and A, although not all off by heart. I just need to start practicing lots more.

Permanent Solution 12-11-2005 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Bah, I like mid-tempo metal.

It's fake, but it's niiiccee.[/QUOTE]
Lame, get some DM.

Well obviously lol.

P.S. I don't know how to stay in key, I just play and if I hit a wrong note I can tell and don't play it again.

DJ Ducksauce 12-11-2005 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]It's fake, but it's niiiccee.[/QUOTE]
I didn't think they were that big. Too bad it's fake though.:(

I play in what ever key the song calls for. I love just putting small riffs in other songs. Like blink songs. Really easy.

BridgeToSolace 12-11-2005 09:55 PM

[QUOTE=Fire Whispers]C is generally the easiest to play in. I find anyways. I know where most notes are on E and A, although not all off by heart. I just need to start practicing lots more.[/QUOTE]

I know the two highest strings and the two lowest like reflex. The other two strings a bit of thought (making octave chords in my mind, probably).

I generally stay in Key of F for most of my heavy things. (That C, but with a flat b.)

Sounds real nice.

[QUOTE]
I play in what ever key the song calls for. I love just putting small riffs in other songs. Like blink songs. Really easy.[/QUOTE]

Well, I mean when I write music. I love jazzing (I don't mean actually jazz, I mean adding extra notes and riffs) up cover songs when I play them though. I always add extra octave chords when I play Finch songs.

Oh and I'm playing 3 Simple Words for a school open mic night. I wasn't going to sing, but the guy I'm doing it with (haha) pussied out. No biggie. Wish me luck, all.

[QUOTE]P.S. I don't know how to stay in key, I just play and if I hit a wrong note I can tell and don't play it again.[/QUOTE]

Guess and check is a bad way to play. Especially if your mid-breakdown and want to add an improvised lead riff like I do with the band all the time.

B 12-11-2005 09:59 PM

For any of you who taught yourselves, what kind of websites did you use? If any at all of course.

BridgeToSolace 12-11-2005 10:01 PM

[QUOTE=Fire Whispers]For any of you who taught yourselves, what kind of websites did you use? If any at all of course.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://musictheory.net/[/url]

Although the language is a bit confusing for me, because I only really learned guitar theory (meaning I don't know what the **** a tonic is)

If you need any help dude, just ask.

Permanent Solution 12-11-2005 10:02 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]
Guess and check is a bad way to play. Especially if your mid-breakdown and want to add an improvised lead riff like I do with the band all the time.[/QUOTE]
I always improv a song several times before performing it live. But I know scales, I just don't know names and such.

Brandon: For theory? None, just my MT class in HS.

Tonic is the root.

DJ Ducksauce 12-11-2005 10:04 PM

[QUOTE=Jon]Well, I mean when I write music. I love jazzing (I don't mean actually jazz, I mean adding extra notes and riffs) up cover songs when I play them though. I always add extra octave chords when I play Finch songs.

Oh and I'm playing 3 Simple Words for a school open mic night. I wasn't going to sing, but the guy I'm doing it with (haha) pussied out. No biggie. Wish me luck, all.[/QUOTE]Oh, I see. I don't really write, but I mess around on the guitar a bunch. I have tried to write some before. I have one in e minor. Kind of like Welcome Home. The rest sound really pop-punky with lots of power chords.

Good luck with that.

Brandon: I looked at some guitar books, read archives/lessons on here, watched a guitar vid that my dad had, and looked at a bunch of tablature.

B 12-11-2005 10:04 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace][url]http://musictheory.net/[/url]

Although the language is a bit confusing for me, because I only really learned guitar theory (meaning I don't know what the **** a tonic is)

If you need any help dude, just ask.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Jon.

Vince: I'm taking music now so I'm learning some theory but there's no guitar stuff. It's all Brass and Woodwind instruments. A lot of it is the same but a lot is different too.

Anyways. Night guys. And thanks.

DJ Ducksauce 12-11-2005 10:07 PM

In piano, we learn chromatic/diatonic/intervals/scales/tonic/dominant/subdominant/triads/all that sh[size=2]it[/size]

Night Brandon.

I think I'm off as well.

Night Y'all. :wave:

Permanent Solution 12-11-2005 10:09 PM

[QUOTE=Fire Whispers]Thanks Jon.

Vince: I'm taking music now so I'm learning some theory but there's no guitar stuff. It's all Brass and Woodwind instruments. A lot of it is the same but a lot is different too.

Anyways. Night guys. And thanks.[/QUOTE]
Eh, theory is theory. Night.

BridgeToSolace 12-11-2005 11:07 PM

Death Cab For Cutie was on Comedy Central.

And thus, I am confused.

chips88 12-12-2005 12:29 AM

"If we elect a dead president, those terrorists won't **** around with us for some time!"

Angry Balled Fists! 12-12-2005 02:02 AM

****. I feel sick, but i have school in 5 mins or so.

Bye.

COngrats Flintoff on SPOTY :D

PDWAB 12-12-2005 02:33 AM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Outside of my lessons, I have NEVER needed to use a dimished scale. Ever.

I just know my minor and major scale (which means I know modes too, I spose. A Dorian is really just a B major and what not) forms. And pentatonic. That's all I've ever really used.

Although that may just be a sign that I suck at guitar.

(And you said you're doing blues...whenever I did blues I did improvising and blues scales. But oh well.)[/QUOTE]

What if you see a diminished chord?

In most rock and pop, when you usually stay in one key, then yeah you usually can just get away with the diatonic notes in that key. But in other stuff in Jazz when you're modulating all over the place, it's good to know your modes. Pentatonic scales are good too, but they're basically minor or major scales with a couple notes taken out.

I never said I was doing blues...? Jazz, son! Jazz!!!

And also it's hard to study Jazz tunes when I just keep listening to Birdland over and over again :(

And also I saw Narnia tonight and it was totally sweet. What's that, you have a huge army? We'll just send some RHINOS TO CHARGE AT YOU FU[size=2]C[/size]K YEAH

Kif 12-12-2005 03:19 AM

So apparently Fall Out Boy got punk'd. I might download that episode next week

Excursions 12-12-2005 03:24 AM

Hah, Rancid Daniel Against Me is playing two shows in New Zealand in Febuary. I might go just so I can spit on their faces for being in such a faggot filled band.

Im joking, I would like to go though if I don't see The Stooges. Against Me are probably one of the punk bands of our generation even if im not much of a fan.

DepthsOfDreams555 12-12-2005 05:35 AM

[QUOTE=Kif]So apparently Fall Out Boy got punk'd. I might download that episode next week[/QUOTE]


Really? Thats awesome I missed Punk'd last night now I am bummed.

Dead Star 12-12-2005 07:20 AM

Hello?

Is there anybody here?

Untitled 12-12-2005 07:50 AM

I Am Home!

Agent_Orange 12-12-2005 07:51 AM

[QUOTE=Kif]So apparently Fall Out Boy got punk'd. I might download that episode next week[/QUOTE]


hmmmm....I would have really liked to see that. What happened? Was it good?

Agent_Orange 12-12-2005 07:52 AM

[QUOTE=J-Cool]Hello?

Is there anybody here?[/QUOTE]


only in your head.

Kif 12-12-2005 08:00 AM

[QUOTE=Agent_Orange]hmmmm....I would have really liked to see that. What happened? Was it good?[/QUOTE]
Emphasize on the "next week" part.

Kif 12-12-2005 08:07 AM

God my school is so unorganized. I was off for about 2 weeks with a bad flu, then about 2 more days because I felt sick again with it. Just this weekend I got a letter saying I hadn't been to form by one of the heads, and today we got another saying I hadn't been to lessons for the past few weeks. Bareing in mind I did ring in and say I was poorly with flu.

Idiots.

Dead Star 12-12-2005 08:42 AM

I'm off today. I have a sore throat.

:(

EDIT - I'm not sure about my new mp3 player, I started putting songs on it at about 12, and its only at 31%.

I really don't know how it works too, its a bit complicated.

I expected better from Sony.

Kif 12-12-2005 08:56 AM

My Sony Minidisc was a piece of piss to use. Install the software, connect it via USB, transfer songs using the software.

ZaaR 12-12-2005 09:06 AM

[QUOTE=Kif]My Sony Minidisc was a piece of piss to use. Install the software, connect it via USB, transfer songs using the software.[/QUOTE]

My brother has one of those and loves it.

Dead Star 12-12-2005 09:07 AM

The software you get with it looks a lot like Itunes.

Its not really complicated to use, its just that I don't know why its taking so long, or where its up to, as the sync list only goes up to Less Than Jake on my library.

Its finished up to there, but yet its still transferring.

I would take a screenshot, but it would kill my computer if I opened up Paint.

Kif 12-12-2005 10:10 AM

NP: Lostprophets - "Start Something" (Start Something Advance)

I remember when I saw them at Leeds. They were the most energetic band on the Friday (Bear in mind Green Day and Thrice played that day too), it was amazing. The only thing that bugged me was that the lead singer put on an American accent, as if people from Britain wouldn't notice.

PDWAB 12-12-2005 10:13 AM

So guess who will be done with school in about 2 hours?

Me, baby.

/runs off and takes final

Kif 12-12-2005 10:14 AM

As in done forever? Lucky bastard

No school tomorrow, lessons with one of my teachers are optional until the end of the year :D

Angry Balled Fists! 12-12-2005 10:34 AM

[quote=Excursions]Hah, Rancid Daniel Against Me is playing two shows in New Zealand in Febuary. I might go just so I can spit on their faces for being in such a large bundle of sticks filled band.

Im joking, I would like to go though if I don't see The Stooges. Against Me are probably one of the punk bands of our generation even if im not much of a fan.[/quote]

lmao

School was mediocore today, the rugby match at lunch betweent eh Y10's and 11's was intense. Every time this kid oin Y10 got it everyone shouted kill him and some nasty stuff went on ::D

I'm off to do work.

Untitled 12-12-2005 10:41 AM

Damn, i thaught i only had 1 lesson tomorrow, but i looked at my time table and i have two, damn :(

Dead Star 12-12-2005 11:14 AM

I've yet to see my first December n00b.

Untitled 12-12-2005 11:35 AM

Haha, amazing, that fire down south has realy affected one of the big food places around here.

Theres two places that make buns for McDonalds in the Uk, one is here in heywood, my dad works there, and the other is right next to that oil place, and the blast blew one of the walls down there, so the one up here has to do all the orders for all of the uk, insted of north/midlands/scotland. Ha.

Kif 12-12-2005 11:43 AM

Lucky I don't go to Mcdonalds then

PDWAB 12-12-2005 12:06 PM

[QUOTE=Kif]As in done forever? Lucky bastard

No school tomorrow, lessons with one of my teachers are optional until the end of the year :D[/QUOTE]

As in done until January. Haha.

/goes back to bed

Kif 12-12-2005 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=PDWAB]As in done until January. Haha.

/goes back to bed[/QUOTE]
Oh, we finish this week. Well, one half of our 6th form do, the other (My half) finish next Tuesday. Luckily I only have one lesson during those 2 days, and I have opted not to go to it :D

I'm downloading Pro Tools so I can do some schoolwork at home, and record better :D

Everything's coming up Milhouse!


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