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rippa32 12-05-2006 07:57 PM

I pretty much agree with you there. Id probably put the debut or Master Of Reality instead of Never Say Die! though. Not to say Never Say Die! is bad, just not one of my favourites.

pate 12-05-2006 10:53 PM

Ozzy Years - Master of Reality
Dio Years - Mob Rules
Martin Years - Cross Purposes

rippa32 12-06-2006 06:26 PM

Id like to get Cross Purposes actually, I just never seem to find it anywhere. Might have to go ebay, thats where I got TYR.

pate 12-06-2006 09:37 PM

I got Cross Purposes new for 3 dollars two years ago. :):)

PinkFreud 12-06-2006 09:39 PM

No love for the Gillan...album.

pate 12-06-2006 09:41 PM

Yeah...I left it out because there is no "favorite Gillan era" album....there is THE Gillan era album.

Tyler 12-06-2006 09:42 PM

Lee you pick Mob Rules over Heaven and Hell!? WTF?

pate 12-06-2006 09:53 PM

Mob Rules is my favorite Sabbath album. Heaven and Hell has a few classic tracks, but a ton of weak spots, where Mob Rules is top notch all the way through, except for f[SIZE=2]ucking[/SIZE] E5150.

rippa32 12-07-2006 12:53 AM

Whats wrong with a bit of keyboard instrumental (that's what it is isn't it? I don't have Mob Rules, yet.). It worked perfectly in TYR.

pate 12-07-2006 08:43 AM

It's like three minutes of horrible electronic noise.

And Tyr is a horribly underrated album.

rippa32 12-08-2006 12:45 AM

I agree, all Tony Martin one's are. However I just don't understand the reasoning behind Feels Good To Me, it's good but doesn't fit with the Norse mythology theme.

Brew 12-09-2006 04:48 PM

The record label forced the band to have a radio friendly song to release as a single from TYR, hence why Feels Good To Me got tacked on the end.

I nearly bought Seventh Star today, found it for £5. The choice of a new Sabbath album to add to my collection or lunch next week..lunch won :-\

rippa32 12-09-2006 06:30 PM

I suppose you could have eaten the album if you got hungry :thumb:

I still think Feels Good To Me should have been a non-album single. I actually put the TYR CD on with it programmed to skip Feels Good To Me and going from Valhalla to Heaven In Black just felt right.

rippa32 12-11-2006 07:21 PM

So what album's don't you have brew?

pate 12-11-2006 07:28 PM

I've been on a total Sabbath binge the last three days. Just yesterday I went through like 60-some tracks, and I've been back at it today.

rippa32 12-11-2006 09:40 PM

It's the way to go :thumb:

Tyler 12-11-2006 09:48 PM

Mob Rules is [I]so[/I] underrated.

Leper 12-11-2006 10:27 PM

[QUOTE=pate;13771466]Mob Rules is my favorite Sabbath album. Heaven and Hell has a few classic tracks, but a ton of weak spots[/QUOTE]

One of those weak spots being the title track IMO.

Tyler 12-11-2006 10:28 PM

Srsly?!

Heaven and Hell is one of my favourite Doomy metal tracks.

edit: 6000th post in a thread I rarely frequent. Heheh.

Leper 12-11-2006 10:47 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;13802802]Srsly?!

Heaven and Hell is one of my favourite Doomy metal tracks.

edit: 6000th post in a thread I rarely frequent. Heheh.[/QUOTE]

Meh, I find it incredibly generic and boring.

rippa32 12-12-2006 03:29 AM

Generic? Maybe now, but at the time i'm sure it was reasonably fresh sounding.

pate 12-12-2006 08:54 AM

Heaven and Hell is one of my 5 favorite Sabbath songs.

What is everyone's favorite Tony Martin album?

Mine is Tyr easily, followed by probably Headless Cross.

Brew 12-12-2006 03:21 PM

[QUOTE=rippa32;13801378]So what album's don't you have brew?[/QUOTE]

Seventh Star
Cross Purposes
Cross Purposes Live
Forbidden

The thing is though, due to every other Sabbath album I own (except for Paranoid, TYR and Dehumanizer) coming from vinyl, I'd quite like to someday have them all on cd in fancy remastered form.

If I really wanted to be tr00 Sabbath collector I'd buy all the compilation albums they've released..but I really can't be bothered.

pate 12-12-2006 03:50 PM

All the comps are annoying.

rippa32 12-12-2006 07:10 PM

I agree. You might as well buy the first three albums, that pretty much covers you for the majority of compilations.

BOG180 12-12-2006 07:33 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;13802552]Mob Rules is [I]so[/I] underrated.[/QUOTE]
I think all the non Ozzy albums were very, very underrated compared to the Ozzy ones.

Tony Iommi was my main influence on playing guitar, as sabbath as been my favorite band for a long time.

pate 12-12-2006 07:56 PM

Tony is at worst my third favorite guitar player. He's just so incredible.

rippa32 12-12-2006 10:56 PM

I agree but you have to admit some of his extended solo's can get sloppy sometimes.

PinkFreud 12-12-2006 11:00 PM

His sloppiness is charming though.

I always think of how awesome he is when I listen to Sabbath but when I'm not, it's like I totally forget about him. It's weird.

rippa32 12-13-2006 05:07 PM

He's actually a bit of an idol of mine :rolleyes: . He wasn't what got me into guitar (that was seeing friends play and thought it looked fun) but I get alot of influence from him in my playing. Also the more obscure stuff he did with Sabbath like the jazzy or bluesy stuff opened my mind to different styles of music.

pate 12-13-2006 07:51 PM

Everything about him is charming though.

When I saw them at Ozzfest 2005, during Dirty Women Ozzy's voice died and he ran off, so without missing a beat the band went straight to the solo section, and stayed with it for seriously like 10 minutes. It was amazing. Then Ozzy came back, and they did Paranoid and left. Shame it was only a 45 minute set, but they were amazing.

rippa32 12-13-2006 08:19 PM

I heard about that, woulda been awesome to see. Do they do Dirty Women at Ozzfest? I always thought it was just Paranoid, Iron Man and War Pigs.

pate 12-13-2006 08:28 PM

...it was a full set, man.

Opener: NIB
Rest, out of order:
War Pigs
Sweet Leaf
Iron Man
Black Sabbath
Snowblind
Into the Void
Dirty Women
Children of the Grave
Fairies Wear Boots
Paranoid

That was like the typical setlist for 2005. At ours, we lost out of Children of the Grave, and another one that I forget.

rippa32 12-13-2006 11:43 PM

Was that Ozzfest or just the Black Sabbath tour? I'm not calling you a liar, just confused is all.

pate 12-14-2006 12:27 PM

Ozzfest

Did I sound hostile? I wasn't intending to be.

6stringed 12-14-2006 01:27 PM

I just got Paranoid yeah!

Eliminator 12-14-2006 01:42 PM

That's the worst of their good period yeah!

rippa32 12-14-2006 06:02 PM

I dunno, it has its moments. Hand Of Doom, Electric Funeral, Fairies Wear Boots.

Oh and Pate you didn't seem hostile to me I just thought you might have misunderstood where I was going.

Eliminator 12-14-2006 06:03 PM

"Hand of Doom" is their best song.

Especially when it goes in that chugging part.

DAH NUH

DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN

DAH NUH NUH

DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN

Brew 12-17-2006 03:41 PM

I found a video of the TYR-era Sabbath playing Die Young live on YouTube, I'm pretty sure its not from the Cross Purposes Live DVD because Tony Martin doesn't sound like he's being buggered by a cold. It starts with an Iommi solo, 'tis good.


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