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i am the robots 09-04-2005 01:39 PM

I am going to check this out.... will return in a second.

Yes, I see the similarity.

bucket 09-04-2005 01:44 PM

I just listened to them both back to back. I have a feeling I will be eating my words.

i am the robots 09-04-2005 01:46 PM

I saw some similarities actually, but definately not the same riff...

Darkness 09-04-2005 03:29 PM

Guys lets rename this thread "Look your last apon the sun - Opeth". :D

Special Brew 09-04-2005 03:53 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Guys lets rename this thread "Look your last apon the sun - Opeth". :D[/QUOTE]
I love it. You have my vote, unless someone comes up with somehting better.

sportsfan4427 09-04-2005 03:55 PM

God Opeth Is So Cool I Wish I Wasn't The Only One At My School Who Liked Them

GOT the GUDS 112 09-04-2005 04:25 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Guys lets rename this thread "Look your last apon the sun - Opeth". :D[/QUOTE]
Hehe, I just got my shirt from Europe through Rockabilia yesterday. That name has my vote!

Deth 09-04-2005 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Guys lets rename this thread "Look your last apon the sun - Opeth". :D[/QUOTE]
I love it.

I saw TCG video and was very disappointed. The performance was cool, but the concept didn't make any sense at all. Was it just me or wasn't it Lopez playing drums?

Darkness 09-04-2005 07:30 PM

Its not, I believe Gene had to fill in for him again (I read that somewhere..). He must be really sick.

Deth 09-04-2005 07:33 PM

Yeah, that's not the best of news. If he can't even be in the video, it must be bad.

Darkness 09-04-2005 07:36 PM

At least he played on the album... or so their telling us...

Deth 09-04-2005 08:05 PM

I hope he's alright for the tour :(.

Can Gene play all the songs or do they have to stick with a smaller set-list because of him?

Darkness 09-04-2005 08:12 PM

Couldn't tell you, but I imagine he can play most of the songs that they will be playing on tour. He nailed Deliverance and The Grand Conjuration when I saw them, as well as To Rid The Deaise and Demon Of The Fall.

Fallen Zero 09-04-2005 08:14 PM

Gene is amazing, but i would hope to see martin back when i see them in november

Dude3 09-04-2005 08:16 PM

Wait a sec........


EDIT: oh my god.................... [url]http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0D003B21A969A958?artistid=864277&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=60[/url]

Deth 09-04-2005 08:20 PM

*High fives Dude3...again* two days before my show.

On another note, I got my best friend into Opeth after forcing him to buy Ghost Reveries.

Dude3 09-04-2005 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]*High fives Dude3...again* two days before my show.

On another note, I got my best friend into Opeth after forcing him to buy Ghost Reveries.[/QUOTE]
Where's your show at? Orlando is still about an hour away from me, but whatever.

Did you go to the Mudvayne/Shadows Fall/In Flames/Trivium show last night in St.Petersburg?

Deth 09-04-2005 08:27 PM

I'm down near Ft. Lauderdale.

I didn't even know that show existed, though I only really care about In Flames and Shadows Fall on that bill.

Dude3 09-04-2005 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]I'm down near Ft. Lauderdale.

I didn't even know that show existed, though I only really care about In Flames and Shadows Fall on that bill.[/QUOTE]
It was a great show. It was at Jannus Landing(My new favorite venue. That place kicks major butt for concerts. You can see perfectly from everywhere. Its in the middle of the town in St.Peterburg, and is outside. Its very personal). It was like an off-date for Ozzfest.

Trivium were pretty good. I'm not really a fan of them, but they sounded talented guitar-wise. In Flames kicked as[SIZE=2]s[/SIZE]. They were soooo good. It was my 2nd time seeing Shadows Fall, and this time was even better. I finally went into the crowd, and accidently ended up in the circle pit area, really close up to the stage. That was one of my best cncert experiences though. Oh yeah, Shadows Fall played...brace yourself....."The Light that Blinds"!!!!! And then Mudvayne were really good. I stood in the back, because I was exhausted from Shads. Even though I hate most of that type of music, I like Mudvayne. They put on a great show. I love their first album. All in all, In Flames and Shadows Fall were unmatched.

Right when Mudvayne ended(about 11:00 pm) it started raining. It was the perfect way to end a concert.

Special Brew 09-04-2005 09:05 PM

[QUOTE=Dude3]Wait a sec........


EDIT: oh my god.................... [url]http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0D003B21A969A958?artistid=864277&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=60[/url][/QUOTE]
I just gotta go...

Det_Nosnip 09-04-2005 09:18 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]I hope he's alright for the tour :(.

Can Gene play all the songs or do they have to stick with a smaller set-list because of him?[/QUOTE]

Gene Hoglan could easily nail every single note that Martin has ever played. It's nothing against Lopez; I love his style, and he's a fantastic drummer. However, quite simply, Hoglan isn't human. I would be surprised if there was anything that he CAN'T do on the drumset. As an example, he recorded all of the drum tracks for the last SYL record (featuring some very insane playing), in about 2 days.

However, I read somewhere that they got someone else as a permanent replacement, so I'm not sure. As for what I've heard, Martin is very sick...some sort of blood disease that he's had for a very long time. He may not be back until the end of this year...which sucks.

Cain 09-04-2005 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Gene Hoglan could easily nail every single note that Martin has ever played. It's nothing against Lopez; I love his style, and he's a fantastic drummer. However, quite simply, Hoglan isn't human. I would be surprised if there was anything that he CAN'T do on the drumset. As an example, he recorded all of the drum tracks for the last SYL record (featuring some very insane playing), in about 2 days.

However, I read somewhere that they got someone else as a permanent replacement, so I'm not sure. As for what I've heard, Martin is very sick...some sort of blood disease that he's had for a very long time. He may not be back until the end of this year...which sucks.[/QUOTE]

That's very sad. :(

I think Opeth could do with more virtuoso drumming, though. There's opportunities for soul-crushing on "Ghost Reveries" that get missed I think, because of Lopez's mostly heavy rock/jazz-type drumming. Although I would hate to see Lopez replaced. He made Opeth what they are in the latter days.

denboy 09-04-2005 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Gene Hoglan could easily nail every single note that Martin has ever played. It's nothing against Lopez; I love his style, and he's a fantastic drummer. However, quite simply, Hoglan isn't human. I would be surprised if there was anything that he CAN'T do on the drumset. As an example, he recorded all of the drum tracks for the last SYL record (featuring some very insane playing), in about 2 days.
[/QUOTE]

I think he was more asking if he knew more of Opeth songs..
But seeing as opeths diary thingie, says that Gene learned the three Opeth songs he knew in 2 hours, I don't doubt he'd easily cover a whole opeth set.. (or discography, haha)

Special Brew 09-04-2005 09:35 PM

I don't want Lopez replaced but it could be a good change. Like Cain said, they could use more virtuosic(sp?) drumming.

Itwasthatwas 09-04-2005 10:32 PM

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]I don't want Lopez replaced but it could be a good change. Like Cain said, they could use more virtuosic(sp?) drumming.[/QUOTE]

It would definately be an improvement. Whenever I listen to an Opeth album, I always wish they had more complex and dynamic drumming to compliment the huge landscape painted by the other elements.

Special Brew 09-04-2005 10:40 PM

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of a new drummer. It would kind of be like losing a friend to me though, because I'm a lowly fanboy.

Itwasthatwas 09-04-2005 10:43 PM

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of a new drummer. It would kind of be like losing a friend to me though, because I'm a lowly fanboy.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I know what you mean, getting rid of Lopez just doesn't seem like a cool option. But then, it would be worth it in the end.

denboy 09-04-2005 10:49 PM

I don't really think Lopez has THAT big an influence on writing the drum parts.... I remember reading about how Mikael writes the songs, and he mentioned laying out drum parts for all the songs, and bass too

Special Brew 09-04-2005 11:05 PM

Yeah, on the DVD they shows Akerfeldt basically telling Lopez how he wants the drums to sound and Lopez just does whatever he is told. But still, the guy has been a member of Opeth for so long, so it just seems kind of wrong. I guess I always think of a band being like a brotherhood more than a job, so it seems like they'd be kicking out a family member. Their music could be so much better with a different drummer though.

denboy 09-04-2005 11:07 PM

Hehe, I wasn't talking to you, I was responding to the guy saying that they'd improve with a new drummer..
I don't think Lopez have come close to showing all of his drumming abilities in Opeth.. And I'd hate for him to leave


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