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Zildjian 10-19-2006 11:48 AM

I could score some vintage 14" Sound edge Hi hats for $150... What you guys think?

oliv_da_skinmasher 10-19-2006 02:51 PM

For 150 man you shud go for it.

I'm looking for bright (not too bright) cutting ride for play middle of the road rock to hard rock. any ideas guys?

Dave*Grohl 10-19-2006 02:56 PM

Zildjian A 20" medium ride...you can play anything with it

TTTSNB 10-19-2006 03:57 PM

[quote=Dave*Grohl;13470384]Zildjian A 20" medium ride...you can play anything with it[/quote]
Dunno, seems too middle of the road for me, too pingy for jazz, too washy for rock, but that's just me.

Dave*Grohl 10-19-2006 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=TTTSNB;13470980]Dunno, seems too middle of the road for me, too pingy for jazz, too washy for rock, but that's just me.[/QUOTE]

I find it to be awesome for jazz! For rock its good too! but it is a bit washy yes, depending on how you play it

oliv_da_skinmasher 10-19-2006 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=TTTSNB;13470980]Dunno, seems too middle of the road for me, too pingy for jazz, too washy for rock, but that's just me.[/QUOTE]

You got any suggestions?

TTTSNB 10-19-2006 04:28 PM

[quote=oliv_da_skinmasher;13471176]You got any suggestions?[/quote]
I actually think the 20" Dark Ride is a great cymbal, that's just me though. I try to use a medium ride in jazz, and it just sounds too tinny and loud IMO, but I guess it's just me.

White Riot! 10-19-2006 04:50 PM

you really need a thinner ride for jazz for the sounds I tend to like/prefer in a playing situation

although i would save the brighter/pingier rides for big band type stuff

Cocaberry 10-19-2006 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=oliv_da_skinmasher;13470335]For 150 man you shud go for it.

I'm looking for bright (not too bright) cutting ride for play middle of the road rock to hard rock. any ideas guys?[/QUOTE]

AAX Dry Ride
AA Raw Bell Dry Ride
AA Medium Heavy Ride

Good ping on those. For more wash/less ping, try an AAX Stage ride or AA Medium Ride. Both those are crashable.

For more ping than the above rides, try an AA Heavy Ride. For maximum ping, try a Paragon Ride or a Zildjian Earth Ride.

Daven 10-20-2006 02:47 PM

I dont know where to post this, so I guess ill post it here. So i have this 18' ZXT crash/ride, it sucks i know. However as of lately iv seen like the edges are changing color, and this small rust-like dots are appearing. Is this normal?

I'm also looking for a relpacement to ZXT. I'm looking for a ride with nice bell sound and crisp. Loud enough to work in a rock/metal band.

Thanks for the help.

Zildjian_man 10-21-2006 01:27 PM

I know im becoming a pain asking about this. but this is the last time.
Im am ready to order my cymbals, but forgot some things. meinl classics on a scale of 1-10, Ten being most:how bright,how long of sustain, and how loud. Thanks for all the help.

Drum Phil 10-21-2006 01:55 PM

[quote=oliv_da_skinmasher;13470335]For 150 man you shud go for it.

I'm looking for bright (not too bright) cutting ride for play middle of the road rock to hard rock. any ideas guys?[/quote]

Avedis Rock ride
Avedis ping ride


When im playing jazzier stuff i tend to crack out my old 22" Zyn ride.

Icky_Mettle 10-22-2006 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=We_Love_Lime;13372457]16 CIE Vintage?

Yes.[/QUOTE]

A little late on the reply (I know) but if I can try either one, I'd love a K fast crash or the CIE.

Expensiveeeeeeeeeeeeee

worth it?

We_Love_Lime 10-22-2006 08:38 PM

Oh ****.

No doubt the CIE is worth it.

Not too fond of the ride, the hats and crashs are VERY worth it though.
VERY!

TTTSNB 10-22-2006 09:05 PM

[quote=White Riot!;13471340]you really need a thinner ride for jazz for the sounds I tend to like/prefer in a playing situation

although i would save the brighter/pingier rides for big band type stuff[/quote]
Yeah, most of the time. Even the Medium seems a bit too thick in my College Small Group Jazz Combo.

drummguy731 10-24-2006 08:59 PM

Ok guys, how are the K custom sessions? Cause I'm starting to get into jazz stuff and may need a new crash since I normally play A Cust. Fasts

Aaron 10-24-2006 09:21 PM

They're okay, there are better crashes out there though. The special drys are 100x better.

drummguy731 10-24-2006 09:27 PM

But they don't come in crashes do they?

Aaron 10-24-2006 09:28 PM

Yeah, but they were discontinued in March. Still fairly available.

drummguy731 10-24-2006 09:29 PM

Ahh, I see, thank you!

Aaron 10-24-2006 09:30 PM

They'll be the ones we'll be talking about as priceless in 10 years, trust me. Give them 10 years of playing and they'll be godly.

drummguy731 10-24-2006 09:33 PM

Yeah, hopefully I'll be able to get my hands on one. Also, has anyone played the Oriental Classic China, not the China trash, but the other china from the Oriental FX series

SeNeCa 10-30-2006 07:19 AM

hi guys ive found a few nice pairs of Paiste cymbals on ebay and im just wondering as far as quality goes how do paistes rank? ive checked out the sound files on their websites and i like them alot.

but what lines of cymbals offer the best quality? like sigs are obviously very good but like 404's Alphas Rudes how do these rate in the cymbal world?

i hope ive made the question clear =/

thanks guys :)

Drum Phil 10-30-2006 07:51 AM

404s and alphas arent too good.

Rude rides, chinas and thin crashes are awesome. Rudes are pro but quite heavy.

herostyle 10-30-2006 01:53 PM

The Rudes are nice and the 2002s.

herostyle 10-30-2006 02:01 PM

AA splash?
AAX splash?

Tim 11-01-2006 10:21 PM

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;13537076]404s and alphas arent too good.

Rude rides, chinas and thin crashes are awesome. Rudes are pro but quite heavy.[/QUOTE]

the new alphas are pretty good. a bit pricey though

alurny 11-03-2006 09:53 AM

So I'm looking to upgrade from my standard hats and crash. Good deal?

[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zildjian-ZBT-Pro-Ltd-Ed-Cymbal-set-with-FREE-ZHT-Crash_W0QQitemZ200042716008QQihZ010QQcategoryZ10175QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem[/url]

Cocaberry 11-03-2006 10:55 AM

ZBTs suck.

Save up for professional cymbals so you won't have to buy twice.

Panopticon 11-04-2006 12:10 AM

This may not be what the cymbal finder is intended for but i figured i'd ask here before making a new thread.

My school has an old Sabian AA Medium Ride.

I might buy it for $40 but want to know how old it is. I know it is fairly old because the text that says "MEDIUM RIDE" is capitalized and is just outlined. (ie. the letters are not solid).

Any guesses? I asked on the sabian forum but it could be a while before i get an answer.


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