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El_Goodo 10-11-2005 09:54 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Why then was Cynthia "devestated" (her own words) after John left?[/QUOTE]

Of course she was devestated...although when she caught them in there bathrobes at her house the first thing she did was invite them to go out for dinner.

jimmybowles 10-11-2005 09:57 PM

I've been listening to the "Red and "Blue" best of albums lately.

BigTrav415 10-11-2005 10:39 PM

Here Comes The Sun (Doo Doo Doo Doo)



Sorry, I've been obsessing over that song lately. It's just so... mellow, and what a great guitar riff. I have to learn that.

blue3 10-11-2005 10:48 PM

It's a great song.. I lost my 'red' Beatles album.

Seafroggys 10-11-2005 11:06 PM

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]...Yoko should have took the bullet for John.
[/QUOTE]

And you call yourself a Lennon fan.

You disgust me.

No one should ever.....EVER....wish that upon anybody. John Lennon sure as hell wouldn't have, and he spent over a decade preaching that! And 25 years later, the world still hasn't changed.

You are a disgrace to humanity. Neg rep.

Illmatic 10-11-2005 11:11 PM

I think he was kidding, Seafroggys.

Violent_Bill 10-11-2005 11:35 PM

[QUOTE=AMP]It's to say which one is better because both of them are equally qualified.
John has created masterpieces such as Strawberry Fields Forever, A Day in The Life, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds, and Imagine. They show his creativeness and his songs almost put you in a dreamlike trance because they are beautifully written. His unmistakable voice also set the tone for his songs.
Paul, meanwhile, stays to the regular rock standard, creating songs such as Hey Jude, Sgt. Pepper..., Helter Skelter, etc.
Personally though, I've always developed a better liking toward John's songs because they are more melodious, more moving than Paul's "hard-hitting" songs.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't say that's neccesarily true, I find songs such as Let It Be and Eleanor Rigby very moving.

Illmatic 10-11-2005 11:39 PM

123...you'd be hard-pressed to convince me that Let It Be, Blackbird, Hey Jude, and Eleanor Rigby aren't moving songs.

Seafroggys 10-12-2005 12:44 AM

Let it Be live is a whole nother experience. Same with Maybe I'm Amazed.

Leper 10-12-2005 01:07 AM

IMO Eleanor Rigby is a masterpiece.

...Why has Jacaranda stolen my identity?

blue3 10-12-2005 01:17 AM

Cause he can.. Halloween

Leper 10-12-2005 01:51 AM

[QUOTE=blue3]Cause he can.. Halloween[/QUOTE]

How very annoying.

Jacaranda 10-12-2005 06:39 AM

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]How very annoying.[/QUOTE]
Haha, whats annoying is that I keep thinking I'm you. I'm having my own identitie crisis.

After the like 100th time listening to the White Album I still don't think its that great. My least favorite post-65 Beatles album.

Lunch 10-12-2005 07:46 AM

The White album loses the Good Songs:Filler ratio, but I think it has some of their best songs on it. It's probably my favorite Beatles album next to Abbey Road just because it's at least interesting, where as I get bored by a lot of their other albums (uh-oh, looks like I'm in for it now).

BludgeonySteve 10-12-2005 12:03 PM

The White album has about half greatand half meh songs. It really didn't have to be so long.

Walrus Gumboot 10-12-2005 12:35 PM

I can't wait to fix my avatar up, I have a really creepy one I made for something else a while ago

What is it that I hear at 2:33 in A Day in the Life? It always sounded like the whispered word "murder" to me, what do you guys think?

robo2448 10-12-2005 01:19 PM

I like all the White Album except Wild Honey Pie and Honey Pie. Wild Honey Pie is just too wierd for me, and Honey Pie gets kind of old. Some of the filler songs really make the album fun and interesting to listen to.

magicbus 10-12-2005 02:10 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]I like all the White Album except Wild Honey Pie and Honey Pie. Wild Honey Pie is just too wierd for me, and Honey Pie gets kind of old. Some of the filler songs really make the album fun and interesting to listen to.[/QUOTE]

Ok, this I time I really thought it was me posting.

The White Album used to be one of my lesser liked Beatles albums, but then I listened to it a lot more, and I love it. The only songs I don't like are probably Honey Pie and Goodbye.

Johnlennon11 10-12-2005 05:26 PM

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It looks pretty amazing to me, and I plan on buying it.

El_Goodo 10-12-2005 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]And you call yourself a Lennon fan.

You disgust me.

No one should ever.....EVER....wish that upon anybody. John Lennon sure as hell wouldn't have, and he spent over a decade preaching that! And 25 years later, the world still hasn't changed.

You are a disgrace to humanity. Neg rep.[/QUOTE]

I was joking. Im one of the few people who like Yoko. I dont believe she had anything to do with The Beatles break up. My opinion is that it was John and Paul's musical differences that broke up the beatles. You can tell by both of their first solo cd's. John's first was a mostly loud rock album, with screaming and emotional songs. And Paul's continued in the fashion of "I Will," "Oh! Darling" and the such.

And I think you may have accidentally gave me positive rep points, cause I seem to have gone up to 47. But that's good for me, since I was clearly joking.

If It would have happened to Yoko, John probably would have become a total mess, and maybe even stopped making music.

El_Goodo 10-12-2005 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]"Well don't you know that it's a fool who plays it cool by making his world a little colder."
"Well I been Meat City to see for myself, been Meat City been Meat City, just got to give me some rock 'n roll."
Of those two excerpts, one is poetic. I'll give you a hint: it's not the one that John Lennon wrote.

[/QUOTE]

Well if were gonna take McCartneys best lyrics and compare them with Lennon's worst it's not very fair. Haha and now that I've ready my post I see im a hypocrite and did the same thing.

[QUOTE]
As for complex songs. Yeah, Imagine, that's really complex. Paul McCartney was far more musically knowledgable, hands down. Only one of the two was able to successfully incorporate classical instrumentation into their songwriting. Hint: it wasn't Lennon.

As for good lyrics, you can look to songs like Golden Slumbers, Yesterday, Blackbird, and Eleanor Rigby.
[/QUOTE]

But yes Hey Jude, Yesterday, and Golden Slumbers have nice lyrics. Im not saying he's not a good lyric writer. Im saying John's had more thought to his most of the time. Some of Paul's have got some good deep meanings...Hey Jude would be one, and some of his songs are really cool and more complex (Rocky Racoon). Imagine is not a very complex song, but it shows alot more of John's soul than say "Yesterday." Yesterday is a melody based song, he had the melody a long time before he had the words, while Imagine was most likely the other way around.

Yes I agree Paul was a better musician, he was multi-talented. And its proven that John had some troubles with keeping rhythm. Yes Paul could incorporate classical music into his songs, but John had Rock N' Roll come to him more easily. He would sit down and write a rocker, he wouldnt sit down and tell himself he was gonna make a rocker (Helter Skelter). That's what made The Beatles so great they all brought there own talents together to great something that was greater than the parts alone.

And there's not really any argument over whether Paul's songs are poppy. Because alot of them are, and Im not saying that as an insult. I love a good pop song, and Paul delivers those. And Yes I know he's made some rockers, but my point is that what really came natural to him and what he made the most were pop songs. And again that's not an insult.

[QUOTE]
I would say that his music is quite powerful, both lyrically and musically. And even if you do argue it's poppy, it's clear that people love the music.[/QUOTE]

That can go for John Lennon as well.

[QUOTE]Also, strong melodies. Personally, most of the best melodies were written by Paul. Something, She's Leaving Home, Golden Slumbers, Hey Jude, and more.
[/QUOTE]

Something was written by George Harrison was it not? I know for sure he wrote the words, and im very sure he wrote the music. But it's possible paul wrote the melody. And I think the best part of She's Leaving Home is John's part. Golden Slumbers, and Hey Jude do have great melodies. There's no arguing that.

But you can't say that he wrote most of the strong melodies. Listen to Across The Universe, Hide Your Love Away, Strawberry Fields, and In My Life.

We can both agree that there both great songwriters.

[QUOTE]Also, John waking up at night and being worried about Paul being more popular? That shows real vanity on his part.

And how are people idiots? I didn't get the point of that.[/QUOTE]

I find it hard to believe McCartney was never worried about Lennon being more popular, or loved. They were always in competition with one another.

And Im saying that it's stupid that everyone's like OH MY GOD! SHE TOTALLY INSULTED PAUL MCCARTNEY!! IT'S A SHOCK THAT SOMEONE SAID HE WRITES SIMPLE SONGS!

First off, it wasn't really an insult more than it was a comment. And secondly, critics have been saying it for like 20 years. But I guess there not Yoko. When Yoko says it, it's outrageous!

DeusExMachina 10-12-2005 10:35 PM

Yeah, Something is by Harrison. I have no clue why I said it was a McCartney song. I must have been really tired.

I agree almost entirely with what you say, I was just kind of out of it when posting, I suppose. Although I've never heard of a critic saying Paul's songs were "simple" in a negative context.

burtonbassist_102 10-12-2005 10:37 PM

*is listening to hey jude right now* :thumb:

Seafroggys 10-12-2005 11:04 PM

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]I was joking. Im one of the few people who like Yoko. I dont believe she had anything to do with The Beatles break up. My opinion is that it was John and Paul's musical differences that broke up the beatles. You can tell by both of their first solo cd's. John's first was a mostly loud rock album, with screaming and emotional songs. And Paul's continued in the fashion of "I Will," "Oh! Darling" and the such.

And I think you may have accidentally gave me positive rep points, cause I seem to have gone up to 47. But that's good for me, since I was clearly joking.

If It would have happened to Yoko, John probably would have become a total mess, and maybe even stopped making music.[/QUOTE]

Haha sorry man.

Abbey Road is the best album, but White Album has the best songs, yet as someone said, lots of filler.

Leper 10-12-2005 11:25 PM

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]

What is it that I hear at 2:33 in A Day in the Life? It always sounded like the whispered word "murder" to me, what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

I don't hear it..are you sure it's at 2:33?

Walrus Gumboot 10-13-2005 08:15 AM

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]I don't hear it..are you sure it's at 2:33?[/QUOTE]


Ah, come to think of it probably not. I can't chack now because mp3 players are taboo during school hours, but perhaps it is 3:33; it's at one fo the times with the orchestra swell, I think the last one. Or maybe the first

Creepy avatar ++

El_Goodo 10-13-2005 10:03 AM

What is everyones favourite pre-Rubber Soul song? Back when they were making the jolly bouncy pop songs like Eight Days A Week and such. I think mine would have to be "I Should Have Known Better" the melody in that song is catchy as hell!

robo2448 10-13-2005 10:06 AM

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]What is everyones favourite pre-Rubber Soul song? Back when they were making the jolly bouncy pop songs like Eight Days A Week and such. I think mine would have to be "I Should Have Known Better" the melody in that song is catchy as hell![/QUOTE]

Yea I love that song, perfect catchy song. I also love pretty much anything off Help especially You've Got to Hide Your Love Away and I've Just Seen a Face. Twist and Shout and Money are awesome covers off their first two albums as well.

Pretty much anything off Help or A Hard Day's Night is great.

The_Passenger 10-13-2005 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]What is everyones favourite pre-Rubber Soul song? Back when they were making the jolly bouncy pop songs like Eight Days A Week and such. I think mine would have to be "I Should Have Known Better" the melody in that song is catchy as hell![/QUOTE]

She Loves You, probably. The Beatles were still a good band before Rubber Soul, just different.

magicbus 10-13-2005 10:23 AM

"Help" and "Can't Buy Me Love" are probably my favorite pre Rubber Soul songs. "Till There Was You" is also very cool.


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