Bin Laden preached Muslim superiority (by blowing things up), and when he killed three thousand people and set off a chain of events that started a world war against the middle east, he saw the error of his ways and hasn't attacked anyone since, but instead wanders the mountains in solitude and ponders, with the occasional prophetic message of peace.

[QUOTE=coheneran]Bin Laden preached Muslim superiority (by blowing things up), and when he killed three thousand people and set off a chain of events that started a world war against the middle east, he saw the error of his ways and hasn't attacked anyone since, but instead wanders the mountains in solitude and ponders, with the occasional prophetic message of peace.[/QUOTE]
That's not true in the least. He still advocates war against America.

Honestly I only asked cause my friend wants a Malcolm X shirt. Yes, Malcolm X was a jerk. But this isnt the politics thread.

Look what you did Converge! You're just like Bin Laden! You set off a dangerous series of events by making one silly little statement (and somewhere, three thousand lives are dying).

Guys, I was kidding about the whole Bin Laden thing.

So what point were you trying to make?

What are you talking about? It was a friendly exchange of insults and talking crap at each other!

Oh, sweet! You filthy racist pig!

[QUOTE=Led-Zeppelin]Oh, sweet! You filthy racist pig![/QUOTE]

Dude, harsh. I have a porcine left ventricle which I'm very sensitive about.

Soo-eeeeeeeeee!

/hopes you get that

Hah! Nailed you!

[quote=Led-Zeppelin]Well I still don't support violence, and he still used his influence mainly to advocate hate and prejudice. I don't care if he changed his mind later, he was a racist for most of his life.[/quote]

Wow, I didn't think you could get any dumber.

Yeah, he's hopeless.

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]Wow, I didn't think you could get any dumber.[/QUOTE]
Oh, come on. What, he's remorseful about what he said for like 10 minutes and that's supposed to change the fact that he spent his life fighting for racial superiority? F[size=2]u[/size]ck that. All right, maybe that changes a little bit about his personality but it doesn't make him somebody to look up to. What if Hitler became an activist against anti-semitism in his final years? Would that make him a hero?

Face it, you got burned by a mod.:p

[quote=Led-Zeppelin]Oh, come on. What, he's remorseful about what he said for like 10 minutes and that's supposed to change the fact that he spent his life fighting for racial superiority? F[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]ck that. All right, maybe that changes a little bit about his personality but it doesn't make him somebody to look up to.[/quote]

The man saw the error of his ways after his trip, came back to America and began fixing what he had done and started advocating for equality and peaceful protest rather than hate and racial superiority, had he not been killed, he would've reached the likes of Martin Luther King, Jr and had just as much influence. He was killed by people thinking he sold out the black race by changing his mind.

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]The man saw the error of his ways after his trip, came back to America and began fixing what he had done and started advocating for equality and peaceful protest rather than hate and racial superiority, had he not been killed, he would've reached the likes of Martin Luther King, Jr and had just as much influence. He was killed by people thinking he sold out the black race by changing his mind.[/QUOTE]
So what? He shared the mindset of many other black activists who would make much better heroes because they actually accomplished things. Whether or not it's Malcolm's fault, he really didn't have much of a career campaigning for racial equality and peace.

[quote=Led-Zeppelin]So what? He shared the mindset of many other black activists who would make much better heroes because they actually accomplished things. Whether or not it's Malcolm's fault, he really didn't have much of a career campaigning for racial equality and peace.[/quote]

HE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE. God you are ****ing thick.

Quit, now. Big wide gap, right there. *Points*

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]HE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE. God you are ****ing thick.[/QUOTE]
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER OR NOT HE HAD A CHANCE. He didn't do anything so why should I look up to him? I'm not saying he's a bad guy, I'm just saying there much better people in the civil rights movement to idolize than Malcolm X.

Nick, you are participating in spam. This belongs in the Social Thread.

I'm done, the guy is ****ing stupid and too ****ing thick to listen.

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]I'm done, the guy is ****ing stupid and too ****ing thick to listen.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's much better than a logical argument.

[QUOTE=Led-Zeppelin]IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER OR NOT HE HAD A CHANCE. He didn't do anything so why should I look up to him? I'm not saying he's a bad guy, I'm just saying there much better people in the civil rights movement to idolize than Malcolm X.[/QUOTE]

No one said you had to look up to him. It's your choice of who you want to look up to. All we're trying to say is that he realized his errors and fixed them. He came back to America a changed man and unfortunately did not have a chance to express his new beliefs for a very long time. End of discussion.

[QUOTE=Ghostfire3] All we're trying to say is that he realized his errors and fixed them. He came back to America a changed man and unfortunately did not have a chance to express his new beliefs for a very long time. End of discussion.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, no sh[size=2]i[/size]t. I never said that didn't happen.

Then why the hell were arguing with me? From what I read you dismissed him completely as an activist. I'm not saying he is godly or should be looked up to by everyone, but realize the effect the man made and could've made.

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]Then why the hell were arguing with me?[/QUOTE]
Actually, you're the one who jumped in and called me a moron before I said anything to you, probably before reading the last page of the thread.

/me brings order back to this thread

I started taking apart my bikes for the purpose of building a tall bike. It might prove to be more difficult than I thought, just because of the sheer difference in sizes between the two frames. I'll make it work somehow, though.

You should keep a photo-diary of every stage and then write a guide on how to construct tall-bikes.

[QUOTE=coheneran]You should keep a photo-diary of every stage and then write a guide on how to construct tall-bikes.[/QUOTE]
I'm more likely to construct a guide on how not to make a tall bike.

Step one: garbage pick the worst bikes ever. Be sure that they are missing vital parts, and that they are completely different sized frames

Step two: Continuously forget to ask your friendly neighborhood welder if they will help you, just assuming that they will.

More steps to come!

Yaaay! It would make a good zine, in all seriousness, a How-Not-To zine.

[QUOTE=coheneran]Yaaay! It would make a good zine, in all seriousness, a How-Not-To zine.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. I really should get pictures, but right now my bikes aren't very photogenic. They're in a pile in my disgusting garage.

Oh, that's another step: Be sure to not even bother clearing a good workspace for this construction to take place. Work in a garage that has no space, and no lights or access to electricity.

I'm really mad though, because in the process I found that the bike seat stem I was planning on using is rusted onto the frame in a way it cannot ever be removed (it's not a frame I'm planning on using at all either). I got the seat off, and I know for a fact I have a stem in my house that'll work (it was from my old bike) but I cannot for the life of me find it. My house is so disorganized.

I have an idea for a street-art project in Hollywood:

Red spray paint to match the colour of the stars on the Boulevard, and a stencil with a name on it, whatever one can think of that is funny. You can work the rest out. Oh yes, some gold paint as well for the lettering.

That's pretty cool. Doesn't even really need to be on the Boulevard, you could do that just about anywhere in the states and people would get it.

[QUOTE=Led-Zeppelin]That's pretty cool. Doesn't even really need to be on the Boulevard, you could do that just about anywhere in the states and people would get it.[/QUOTE]

No, I meant to modify the existing stars.

Guys, I wear bandana's like hipsters.
Give me an idea to stencil on it.

Crass logo.
[url]http://stencilpunks.mattrunningnaked.com/crass.gif[/url]

I could.
Logos would be nice but nothing ghey.

What else would you want other than a logo?

[QUOTE=coheneran]No, I meant to modify the existing stars.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I got that, but you could also just make a star stencil and make your own around your home town.

Communist Manifesto!