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Permanent Solution 09-04-2007 12:10 PM

That's good pay but not as good on your resume as a real-type job so sort of a trade off.

edit: Well yeah but I'm just saying :p

Although that sort of thing sounds very teenager of you no offense ^_^

Nostalgia 09-04-2007 12:10 PM

Yeah, Washington has the highest minimum wage in the states. (7.93). A very good rate too, though that's what Iget paid for doing physical labor.:(

[QUOTE]i make $25 an hour tutoring high school kids in math.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure? If that turned into a full-time job you could afford your own house...

Dimmu Burger 09-04-2007 12:12 PM

Anybody hear about the new iPod that they might announce soon? Apparently it has a huge touch screen. Jollies!

AA-12 09-04-2007 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15236564]worst idea evar[/QUOTE]

Nah, it's great while it lasts. Pure relaxation and enjoyment.

Permanent Solution 09-04-2007 12:14 PM

$25 an hour will not buy you a house even full time =\

Well I guess it depends on what sort of house and where...but in general that's more in the condo range imo.

Jacaranda 09-04-2007 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=Dimmu Burger;15237147]Anybody hear about the new iPod that they might announce soon? Apparently it has a huge touch screen. Jollies![/QUOTE]

There have been photoshop'd pictures of that for ever. I don't even believe it any more.

Nostalgia 09-04-2007 12:15 PM

I meant in general living terms, not necessarily home owning.

Shattered_Future 09-04-2007 12:15 PM

Yeah, I know tutors who make absurd amounts of money. Somewhere around 100 bucks an hour, I think.

Then again, I live in a very rich community.

Dr. Jake Destructo 09-04-2007 12:18 PM

first class is in like 5 hours. :(

Permanent Solution 09-04-2007 12:19 PM

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15237155]I meant in general living terms, not necessarily home owning.[/QUOTE]
Still depends, to rent the house we're renting this year he had to have a net income over 6600 a month amongst the people signing the lease. If he got a roommate or two that would work.

Dimmu Burger 09-04-2007 12:20 PM

[QUOTE=Jacaranda;15237154]There have been photoshop'd pictures of that for ever. I don't even believe it any more.[/QUOTE]

Don't you crush my hopes and dreams!!!

Nostalgia 09-04-2007 12:22 PM

It fully relies on the area, since we don't live in the same state. I know several people who rent on the hourly wage that I brought up.

Permanent Solution 09-04-2007 12:24 PM

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15237173]It fully relies on the area, since we don't live in the same state. I know several people who rent on the hourly wage that I brought up.[/QUOTE]
Very true. But it's not even state just area. If they lived in Seattle they'd be lucky to get an apartment =\

I live in an area considered urban so real estate is expensive here too =\

The Door Mouse 09-04-2007 12:25 PM

My dad works as the head athletic trainer at Wesleyan University and he still can't get me a job there somehow. =/

publicastration 09-04-2007 12:27 PM

I was curious, how is "illegal" downloading detected? All the horror stories I've read about people being fined for thousands seemed to be college students in dorms where the internet activity is pretty obviously being monitored.

And if the RIAA is so hot how come they haven't shut this site down because of the DUs? It's not like this site is hidden or anything.

Angmar 09-04-2007 12:27 PM

My Dad is a teacher at my high school and I actually have CAD with him this year.

._.

Nostalgia 09-04-2007 12:28 PM

[QUOTE]If they lived in Seattle they'd be lucky to get an apartment =\[/QUOTE]

Oh of course not. A very select few could live in a city, let alone an apartment. I can't remember their montly cost, but I believe it was around 2,500 - 5,000 for a high profile location.

Dimmu Burger 09-04-2007 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=Luc214;15237183]I was curious, how is "illegal" downloading detected? All the horror stories I've read about people being fined for thousands seemed to be college students in dorms where the internet activity is pretty obviously being monitored.

And if the RIAA is so hot how come they haven't shut this site down because of the DUs? It's not like this site is hidden or anything.[/QUOTE]

I'm curious as well. Because supposedly they monitor my internet activity at work as well.

Permanent Solution 09-04-2007 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=Luc214;15237183]I was curious, how is "illegal" downloading detected? All the horror stories I've read about people being fined for thousands seemed to be college students in dorms where the internet activity is pretty obviously being monitored.

And if the RIAA is so hot how come they haven't shut this site down because of the DUs? It's not like this site is hidden or anything.[/QUOTE]
Jeremy has rules against it and the staff is responsible for enforcing the rules but if something slips through Jeremy is not responsible for the actions of users at his site. This is why we (mods) try to delete anything directly linked on the site.

Angmar 09-04-2007 12:35 PM

I think he is talking about like how apartments and dorms are against it.

Dimmu Burger 09-04-2007 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=stevo2112;15237215]I think he is talking about like how apartments and dorms are against it.[/QUOTE]

and jails.

Nostalgia 09-04-2007 12:37 PM

What exactly do you do at the jail?

Permanent Solution 09-04-2007 12:38 PM

I was answering the second block of questions

The answer to the first is that the computer automatically keeps track of everywhere and most monitoring means they look at what websites you visit and make sure you aren't going to offlimit websites.

as for the RIAA there's tons of ways to do it. All they have to do is use the p2p stuff we use, search for a drm song and anyone sharing it is sueable, simple. they choose the ones sharing the most though because that=more money per hit.

publicastration 09-04-2007 12:40 PM

Hmmm, so P2P is really the only thing that is trackable?

Permanent Solution 09-04-2007 12:42 PM

No, posting things on file servers is also trackable, either via the file name or links stating what it is, blogs with links, for instance. Just remember, if you can do it, so can people working for the RIAA.

AIM is one of the safer ways still because there's no network of peers to search, it's like getting a burned CD from a friend, which even the RIAA doesn't tend to pursue.

publicastration 09-04-2007 12:44 PM

What about downloading.

I can't think of a way they could track downloading from a blog, or site.

As I said I'm just curious.

Permanent Solution 09-04-2007 12:45 PM

[QUOTE=Luc214;15237249]What about downloading.

I can't think of a way they could track downloading from a blog, or site.

As I said I'm just curious.[/QUOTE]

Downloading isn't illegal anyways, sharing is.

But that's why most any type of free music place bans leechers.

And the site tracks the IP downloading a file so it's not hard to trace at all. If it were illegal.

publicastration 09-04-2007 12:50 PM

From the RIAA site:

"Examples of easy ways you could violate the law:
Somebody you don’t even know e-mails you a copy of a copyrighted song and then you turn around and e-mail copies to all of your friends.
You make an MP3 copy of a song because the CD you bought expressly permits you to do so. But then you put your MP3 copy on the Internet, using a file-sharing network, so that millions of other people can download it.
[b]Even if you don’t illegally offer recordings to others, you join a file-sharing network and download unauthorized copies of all the copyrighted music you want for free from the computers of other network members.[/b]
In order to gain access to copyrighted music on the computers of other network members, you pay a fee to join a file-sharing network that isn’t authorized to distribute or make copies of copyrighted music. Then you download unauthorized copies of all the music you want.
You transfer copyrighted music using an instant messenging service.
You have a computer with a CD burner, which you use to burn copies of music you have downloaded onto writable CDs for all of your friends."

Permanent Solution 09-04-2007 12:53 PM

Well ok, rather it's less illegal to take than to share, because sharing is expressly illegal, whereas if you download the burden of proving you don't have rights to the music you downloaded is placed on them.

For instance, it's entirely legal to download a copy of a CD you own as a backup afaik. So they have to prove you were downloading illegally which is more difficult than getting people who share thousands of files where there's no burden of proof.

publicastration 09-04-2007 12:54 PM

Ah I see.


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