lol idk man maybe not

bone thugs and three 6 mafia each claimed that the other group was ripping them off, so you might look into the first 3 albums by three 6 mafia

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwAtvWpYGhkp[/url]

So, I'm doing an AotW double header next week...

Geteye - Above the Clouds (Newer producer's instro hip-hop joint... amazing beats)
Orphans of Cush - White Noize

[QUOTE=kingsoby1;17576943]So, I'm doing an AotW double header next week...

Geteye - Above the Clouds (Newer producer's instro hip-hop joint... amazing beats)
[/QUOTE]

Similar to who?

I'd say it's very post-Dilla, in the vein of Oh No and Onra.

[QUOTE=kingsoby1;17576943]So, I'm doing an AotW double header next week...

Geteye - Above the Clouds (Newer producer's instro hip-hop joint... amazing beats)
Orphans of Cush - White Noize[/QUOTE]



that Orphans of Cush album just beat out Rae for my personal favourite hip-hop of the year. 20 years pass and finally UK has an answer to Wu-Tang.

I really like Orphans of Cush, but I don't see that album beating out Rae for my favorite hip-hop of the year. Still incredibly solid though

lyrics are so ****ing good.

Yeah, Kyza is the best MC there; he's so sick. OoC will be in my top ten of 09.

Crazy how many awesome records dropped this month.

think they all rule individually & together as a unit, v cohesive.

[QUOTE=kingsoby1;17576990]I'd say it's very post-Dilla, in the vein of Oh No and Onra.[/QUOTE]

Sweet, sounds good. Will check it.

If I wanted to check out a People Under The Stairs album, what should I start with?

Get O.S.T.

Yeah, O.S.T. is a good album. Empty Bottles of Water is so ****ing awesome.

aight, i know i talk about this guy a lot, but gucci mane released three mixtapes with three separate DJs yesterday (at 10:17 on 10/17 to be precise). they're pretty amazing from what i can tell so far.

http://nahright.com/news/2009/10/17/gucci-manes-cold-war-series/

o.s.t. may be one of my favorite rap albums. its really damn good

[QUOTE=illmitch;17580370]aight, i know i talk about this guy a lot, but gucci mane released three mixtapes with three separate DJs yesterday (at 10:17 on 10/17 to be precise). they're pretty amazing from what i can tell so far.

http://nahright.com/news/2009/10/17/gucci-manes-cold-war-series/[/QUOTE]shut up we're trying to talk about Quasimoto and Madlib

hmm, gotta check out People Under The Stairs.

jammin Pharoahe Monch right now

could i do a CotM? i promise it won't be stupid

well they just put up a brand new one so i'll wait a few

whenever is a good time i wanna do Proof - [I]Searching for Jerry Garcia [/I]

[QUOTE=Roach;17577144]that Orphans of Cush album just beat out Rae for my personal favourite hip-hop of the year. 20 years pass and finally UK has an answer to Wu-Tang.[/QUOTE]

orly

rae's album is like the next 36 chambers tho

also I cannot get enough of this cut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO7scwVnCKI

how is cuban linx 2 the next 36 chambers?

36 chambers > liquid swords > cuban linx I > cuban linx 2 > supreme clientele

nah

liquid swords > 36 chambers > cuban linx 2 > ironman > cuban linx 1 > supreme clientele

for me at least :p

i [I]really[/I] need to get 36 chambers

[quote=txus;17582821]nah

liquid swords > 36 chambers > cuban linx 2 > ironman > cuban linx 1 > supreme clientele

for me at least :p[/quote]

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36 chambers > cuban linx 1 > liquid swords > supreme clientele > ironman > cuban linx 2

I don't think the new Brother Ali is as boring as the Sputnik review suggests, there's some really good stuff on here. Really enjoy the song [I]The Travelers[/I].

yeah there's like 3 decent tracks. the rest sucks sh*t, and it's a joke that all these obviously white critics are giving it high scores. i'm pretty sure it's the only hiphop record they've listened to this year.

Yeah, because white people don't listen to [I]real[/I] hip hop. That's such a lame standpoint.

white people suck at hiphop

i'm using white as an adjective for a critic that only thinks conscious hip-hop is worth anything. White people probably are the most dedicated hip-hop heads... it's not my creation that hip-hop only infiltrated white society through its conscious bent.

i mean, brother ali talks about redemption, living through hard times, and a ton of cliche ****... he's no "street preacher" and went to a suburb high-school. he's an awesome battle rapper, but when he veers away from his roots (ie Shadows on the Sun), he sucks. Us is poorly produced, reeks of cliche, has terrible guest spots, and is some of Ali's least inspired rapping in years. His rhyme schemes are boring, subject matter is trite, and baptist preacher flow gets boring over an entire record.

i could go on and on with you about why this record sucks, but people are entitled to their opinion. it's just my personal feeling that people that like this are putting some kind of attachment to the subject matter that really isn't there. almost every brother ali fan (that listens to other hip-hop besides rhymesayers stuff) here in MN i've talked to agrees that this album is just weird. we were all so excited; he's easily tied for the best rapper out of mn (with POS)... it's just a travesty that this steaming pile of **** is what we got.

Thanks for clarifying, I can at least see where your coming from now. It just annoys me when people argue that white people [I]only[/I] like conscious hip hop, because while that stereotype often rings true, I've got white friends who are some of most passionate people I know on varying hip hop styles.

In regards to the Brother Ali album, I can definitely see your points on his choice of subject matter, I was just listening through it and enjoying some of the beats. I don't think it's complete garbage, but I guess it looks pretty weak next to [I]Never Better[/I].

I really like these cuts off that record:

"Breakin' Dawn"
"The Travelers"
"Round Here"
"Games"
"Slippin' Away"

If he put out an EP with those tracks only, I'd probably be singing a different tune... but I just cant stand the rest :[

hey i'm white and i refuse to even touch conscious hip hop

i'm half white, and half the hip-hop i like is conscious.

i'm white and i got into hip hop through conscious hip hop

......and now i can't stand it.

it seems to me that white people - the white people from stuffwhitepeoplelike, not the ethnicity as a whole - tend to spring for the conscious rap, and those that move beyond that still tend to cling to NY-centric rap.

there's this phrase i've heard in two different songs.
"i don't rhyme for the sake of riddlin," or maybe it says "ritalin," i dunno.
where did that come from?

i heard it in a dilated peoples song and a song by the roots.

speaking of the roots, i'd like to hear more groups like them.
suggestions?

[QUOTE=illmitch;17585019]it seems to me that white people - the white people from stuffwhitepeoplelike, not the ethnicity as a whole - tend to spring for the conscious rap, and those that move beyond that still tend to cling to NY-centric rap.[/QUOTE]

I think sometimes peopel fall back on it because it seems more "credible". Like some people can be like "Oh, don't worry, I listen to [I]conscious[/I] rap".

Like when you read a review from somebody who obviously isn't into hip hop saying something to the effect of... "Isn't it refreshing to hear a hip hop act not rapping about guns and bitches".

That annoys the crap out of me.