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Kosmos Tree 11-28-2006 09:29 PM

[QUOTE=Electric Requiem;13719848]I think loser's being the grammar police.[/QUOTE]

Come on, it's not that bad, is it? :smash:


*searches for old, dusty school books to refresh grammar

We_Love_Lime 11-28-2006 09:30 PM

hmm...
I blame Hitler for all the worlds problems.

Some kid came to me and was like.
You saw baby Hitler and you had a gun, would you shoot him?
What kind of bullshit question is that?

I said No, because I don't know. Seemed like a good answer.
Than he's like. You just killed 6million people. And that made my day. Than he called me a Jew hater.

So than I said Yes.
But that's a better answer, because not only do you save Millions of people in the 1940s, but you also spare the Middle East some conflict with Israel (Displaced Jews went to Israel after WWII).

But if you said Yes, than Germany wouldn't really exist, because it was sorta down in the dumps before Hitler came. So than we wouldn't have Heineken, Volkswagon, BWM, or Mercedes.

But if I said No. Than because Germany would be so far behind, the 2006 world cup wouldn't have been held there, and italy wouldn't have played France, and France would have won.
W0oah! France owns.


Stupid questions.


Pnemoneya sucks CofDOOM!

Loser 11-28-2006 09:33 PM

I'd shoot him in the foot just so he knows his place.

Kosmos Tree 11-28-2006 09:37 PM

[QUOTE=We_Love_Lime;13719930]hmm...
I blame Hitler for all the worlds problems.

Some kid came to me and was like.
You saw baby Hitler and you had a gun, would you shoot him?
What kind of bullpoop question is that?

I said No, because I don't know. Seemed like a good answer.
Than he's like. You just killed 6million people. And that made my day. Than he called me a Jew hater.
[/QUOTE]

Actually you would have killed around 55 Million people - there were soldiers - and even civilists :eek: - killed in the war too, not only jews ;)
However, if Germany hadn't started the war, Russia would have and Japan definately too - they needed resources and wanted to create Panasia

Not to forget: If you had shot him, maybe you would not be born because of the change of history and couldn't shoot him so he would survive and everything would be the same.

stevensonmat2 11-28-2006 09:43 PM

so if he shot hitler, and because of that he ceased to exist, then he wouldnt have been able to shoot hitler. uhhhhhh

Kosmos Tree 11-28-2006 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=stevensonmat2;13720020]so if he shot hitler, and because of that he ceased to exist, then he wouldnt have been able to shoot hitler. uhhhhhh[/QUOTE]

Yeah... changing history ain't that easy :p

Cocaberry 11-28-2006 09:46 PM

Hitler probably would've shot him first.

stevensonmat2 11-28-2006 09:51 PM

Where iz mein panzerfaust?!

Kosmos Tree 11-28-2006 10:06 PM

sat is a very gut idee, we will blow se bastard into a sousand pieces *g

Anyway, i have to get up in 4 hours, so i'll go and grab some sleep.
Good night everybody.

spirit 11-28-2006 10:18 PM

[QUOTE=We_Love_Lime;13719678]HEY!!!


Chad Smith.
God people don't shut up about this man.
Okay, he's good we get it.
No need for a 6 page thread on drummerworld from people who praise his greatness.
They use the word groove like it compensates for something.

"He doesn't have chops, but he has groove."
He's pretty "Groovy", but not "Groovy" enough IMO that he can replace chops with it.
Jesus Christ.
Stuff he plays isn't that hard.
Pop in the Californication album, and your playing half the songs correctly even though its the first time you heard them.
And don't give me non of this "But it's about the groove ****."

It isn't that hard to Groove to Scar Tissue.[/QUOTE]

What?

Also, come back when you've sold 20 millions albums.

Sync0pation 11-28-2006 10:21 PM

[QUOTE=We_Love_Lime;13719678]


It isn't that hard to Groove to Scar Tissue.[/QUOTE]


:/

Disagree lime

He may be a tad overrated, but he still an amazing drummer. And his chops do make up for his technical ability (he has tech ability just doesnt use it), he's playing for the music

goalieman92 11-28-2006 10:22 PM

hitler's overrated. US did the same damn thing to the japs

Maggot Dream 11-28-2006 10:27 PM

[QUOTE=goalieman92;13720296]hitler's overrated. US did the same damn thing to the japs[/QUOTE]

Minus the killing, of course.

goalieman92 11-28-2006 10:30 PM

no we did that to, not to the extent, the government just wants to sugar coat it acting like we are perfect and can do no wrong.

We_Love_Lime 11-28-2006 10:30 PM

[QUOTE=spirit;13720261]What?

Also, come back when you've sold 20 millions albums.[/QUOTE]

Way to interpret what I wrote.

And whats the difference betwean chops and technical ability?

Oh and with Israelis doing the same to Palestinians.

Sync0pation 11-28-2006 10:33 PM

Eh, I meant his Groove makes up for his tech ability. T.ypo

We_Love_Lime 11-28-2006 10:39 PM

He's a good drummer, don't get me wrong.
But I don't think he has as much as a groove as anyother drummer.

His drumming seems predictable, and every Chili's song is exactly the same.
What I'm really impressed with is the Breaking the Girl. There are moments when Chad pulls of outrageous skills. But for the most part, he is like a popular Meg White IMO.

Josiah 11-28-2006 10:46 PM

[quote=goalieman92;13720376]no we did that to, not to the extent, the government just wants to sugar coat it acting like we are perfect and can do no wrong.[/quote]


Excuse me? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?


The Japanese struck FIRST. They Started the war.


Pearl Harbor? Suprise bombing attack on a naval station?



Hitler was on a crusade to create a master race. Killing and torturing people by RACE in the millions.

The US responded to a outright attack on a military base.

Slight difference there.

We_Love_Lime 11-28-2006 10:53 PM

I think he was mentioning like the Japanese camps in California or something?

Sunshine 11-28-2006 10:56 PM

Internment camps.

So my instructor thinks that I have the potential to become good enough at drums to be one of the backups for the Blue Man Group.

The cool people in the back wearing the glow in the dark body suits?

Yeah.

Josiah 11-28-2006 10:57 PM

^That is a very very odd comparison. Including the fact, you are a girl, the pre-req for Blue MAN Group is being a man.




Well be it wrong or right. They had no forewarning for the initial attack, it was the safe play to isolate anyone linked heavily to japan.


Those people were given shelter, warm food and clothing... aside form being removed form their homes for a time, I do not recall any mistreatment towards them. They weren't starving, being burned, killed, tortured or experimented on for sure though.

goalieman92 11-28-2006 10:57 PM

yes jos. i do know what i am talking about. and what i was on about was the damned interment camps.

Josiah 11-28-2006 11:00 PM

Hahaha no you do not! To compare those camps to Hitler's Cocentration camps is absolutely insane.



You specifically reffered to "Killing". There was no killing done in those camps.

We_Love_Lime 11-28-2006 11:01 PM

The End of The World is Near........................

Sunshine 11-28-2006 11:02 PM

[QUOTE=Josiah;13720566]^That is a very very odd comparison. Including the fact, you are a girl, the pre-req for Blue MAN Group is being a man.

[/QUOTE]

You only have to be a MAN to be one of the blue MEN.

You do NOT, however, need to be a man, or 6 feet tall, to be one of the people in the back with the glowy suits that you don't see the faces or really bodies of anyway.

Josiah 11-28-2006 11:03 PM

Hmm yes, non the less. That is a very odd thing to compare too....

goalieman92 11-28-2006 11:05 PM

there was killing done in those camps, they were disease ridden, little food provided, though there was some. torturing, burning and such wasn't there, but there was killing. and i agree a safe move to make.

Sunshine 11-28-2006 11:06 PM

[QUOTE=Josiah;13720610]Hmm yes, non the less. That is a very odd thing to compare too....[/QUOTE]

But they're so cool.

I saw a show in Las Vegas, and I think I watched them more than the actual Blue Men.

The idea that I might even have a chance of ever doing that, even the slightest chance, is enthralling.

Josiah 11-28-2006 11:09 PM

^Oooh ok awesome I see now

Well, I can confidently tell you, you easily can be good enough. As to playing with them, that's a different matter itself. You can easily be good enough though... easily...

[quote=goalieman92;13720621]there was killing done in those camps, they were disease ridden, little food provided, though there was some. torturing, burning and such wasn't there, but there was killing. [B]and i agree a safe move to make.[/B][/quote]


Then you dissagree with your previous statments.

The Americans built those camps in direct response to a attack on Pearl Harbor.

The American action in WWII toward the japanese was totally justified as the Japanese started the war, and vowed never to end it. Even after a atomic bomb was dropped. It took a second atomic bomb to get the Japanese to stop fighting a war they would never win.

America would have never built those camps, or killed a single japense person, if JAPAN had not attacked.

Win A Rabbit 11-28-2006 11:09 PM

I'm working a 2 hour shift on thursday. Technically I'm only working for 1 hour, we have a staff meeting the second hour. Easy money for me.

And I get paid friday. That'll be 43.5 hours on there I believe. Finally, a paycheque. Haven't been paid in so long. :lol:


Edit: What is it with n00bs and spreading everything on a drumkit as far apart as possible. Every day I go into work, I have to adjust everything to make it playable, then when someone asks if they can play the drums, the first thing they do is just spread everything as far apart as possible. I could see if maybe they were trying to imitate their favorite drummers setups or something, but I've never seen a pro with a setup like that. I haven't even seen an amateur player with a setup like that. It's completely uncomfortable, doesn't make sense, and I don't know where they get the influence from. It's a mystery.

Sunshine 11-28-2006 11:14 PM

[QUOTE=Josiah;13720658]^Oooh ok awesome I see now

Well, I can confidently tell you, you easily can be good enough. As to playing with them, that's a different matter itself. You can easily be good enough though... easily...

[/QUOTE]

Heh, thanks.

I'm not going to go all out planning on playing with them, but if the opportunity to audition does happen to arise...I'd go for it.

Josiah 11-28-2006 11:14 PM

^You'd be surprised.



Further more, if Japan had not attacked the US. Then WWII would have ended much quicker, as a substantional amount of resources would not have had to been allocated to a seperate war on a different part of the world.



Non the less. I never had a choice, or an opportunity to vote on the current US position. The public does NOT support the current war. That much is clear.

Talk about the Government all you want. But as an American I am just as much against the current situation as anyone else. And just as helpless to do anything about it.

goalieman92 11-28-2006 11:15 PM

i didn't say that they wouldn't, and i was a little unclear on the basis of my original comment. I was talking along the lines of the happenings inside said camps. Very good arguments my friend.:chug:
I enjoy a good one every once in a while.

Josiah 11-28-2006 11:22 PM

I agree, many things go wrong. However more of that may to be to blame of the people in charge, vs government orders.

Ultimate power corrupts ultimately.. or some such.


Really a friend showed me a great quote.. I fail to remember who by, something along the lines of -

"As long as governments keep killing their enemies, it is reasonable to expect individuals to do the same on occasion."

Josiah 11-28-2006 11:23 PM

Oh my.. it's already started... this year is looking to get bad... the noobs are coming!!! The noobs are coming!!!

Win A Rabbit 11-28-2006 11:28 PM

[QUOTE=Josiah;13720794]Really a friend showed me a great quote.. I fail to remember who by, something along the lines of -

"As long as governments keep killing their enemies, it is reasonable to expect individuals to do the same on occasion."[/QUOTE]
Ahh, reminds me of a Derrick Jensen quote I love:

"I've heard it said that approximately the same number of people control 95 percent of the world's economy as are in solitary confinement in the United States. There can be little doubt as to which group has killed the greater number of people. The same would hold true for which group has stolen the most, especially if we include resources, and which group has most damaged the planet. It is entirely possible that we have the wrong population in solitary. But, of course, so long as those in power decide who goes to prison, those in power will not go to prison."

Josiah 11-28-2006 11:33 PM

I would dissagree...


The people who have power, who control the wealth, do so at the publics needs. The wealth is created from spending... people will never stop coveting peoples goods, and will ever stop buying things.

You can't blame it on the Suits for trying, it's the public for buying.

The public consumes the resources, by demanding the products. So long as there is a need, there will be a company to fill it.


There is however, no needs of the public met, by those who commit crimes that land them in prison.


Point in case - People talk about Oil, and most always in relation to Gas.

Fact the matter is, FAR more oil is used to make products, anything rubber, plastic etc. From any and everythign Rubber to plastics, and the shipping of any product on massive ocean cargo ships, to the big rigs that run everywhere devlierying everything, to the planes and trains that move people around the world....

Futuro 11-28-2006 11:51 PM

Remember guys.

"Metronomes are gimmicks" - Jeff Berlin :rolleyes:

Sunshine 11-29-2006 12:07 AM

Arg.

Free Enterprise homework.

Why is it that whenever I most want to practice I have something I *need* to do instead?

Lame >=(

Win A Rabbit 11-29-2006 12:44 AM

[QUOTE=Josiah;13720879]The people who have power, who control the wealth, do so at the publics needs. The wealth is created from spending... people will never stop coveting peoples goods, and will ever stop buying things.[/QUOTE]
Define "public". I doubt you're including the people who's land and resources are stolen as "the public". And as far as I know, the families in India don't "need" to be kicked off their land to have a chemical plant put up, and I'm pretty sure it's not their "need" to be exposed to the carcinogens and pollution. Actually, it's kind of the opposite of a "need", wouldn't you say?
[QUOTE]The public consumes the resources, by demanding the products. So long as there is a need, there will be a company to fill it.[/QUOTE]
And as long as there is a company to fill it, there will be more killing, stealing, and damaging of the planet in order for the company to fulfill this duty.
[QUOTE]There is however, no needs of the public met, by those who commit crimes that land them in prison.[/QUOTE]
So a man stealing a loaf of bread (we'll start little, stealing a loaf of bread isn't really solitary-worthy, hopefully) to feed his family is meeting no needs of the public? A protestor chaining him/herself to a tree in an attempt to save the tree (and the message they are trying to get across would be for the forest) to be saved isn't meeting any public needs? "Public needs" doesn't have to mean "capitalist needs."
[QUOTE]Point in case - People talk about Oil, and most always in relation to Gas.

Fact the matter is, FAR more oil is used to make products, anything rubber, plastic etc. From any and everythign Rubber to plastics, and the shipping of any product on massive ocean cargo ships, to the big rigs that run everywhere devlierying everything, to the planes and trains that move people around the world....[/QUOTE]
I understand that, but believe it or not, oil comes from the ground. People live on the ground. Companies with full government backing extract this oil from the ground. If a company finds an oil deposit under a family's home in India, that family is gone one way or another. Draw your own conclusions.

What is the justification for jail time? Murder, theft, damage? Surely a couple more. Now, how many CEO's of major corporations have you seen in jail? Personally I haven't seen a single one. I don't imagine you want to make the case that CEO's of many major corporations aren't responsible for atleast a single murder (including deaths by carcinogens along with general pollution, insane workplace hazards like in the Union Carbide Plant in Bhopal, etc), theft (remember, we're including land and resources), and damage.


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