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Win A Rabbit 02-21-2008 03:57 PM

a friend of mine worked at tim horton's for like 2 years and told me to never ever buy the soup or chili.


and i walked over to tim horton's a while back at like 1 am to get a coffee and dougnut, and went to the drive-thru, and they refused to serve me. there was nobody behind me, but they were all "umm this is a drive-thru" and i was all "umm it takes 30 seconds to get a coffee and doughnut it's not a big deal and i dont drive and the front doors are closed this is my only option" and they were all "umm sorry" and closed the window.

i haven't been there since.

Chippy569 02-21-2008 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=TTTSNB;16012521]I respect your beliefs Chippy, but I just have one question. I've always believed that most religious people practice their religion because they a) want comfort for their problems in everyday life, and b) want to know where they're going after death. Now I'm curious why you couldn't solve a) with one's own intellectual thought, and advice from other, possibly wiser people.[/QUOTE]

i'm not entirely sure how to answer this statement, but i'll give it it a shot. The first thing i would ask is "what is religion?" After I had a definition which satisfied me, i would then ask "what is the point of the religion?"

generalizing religious people as people looking for solace for their problems is only taking religion at point-blank face value. You're looking at the people, not the religion itself. Do a little research on the first two questions and i think you might discover something interesting about religion.

one of the big argument trends i see is the connection to the word "religion" and a particular faith. What do you think of when i say the word "religion?" I get the impression a lot of people would say something like "islam" or "christianity" or something like that. That association needs to be shaken up a little. A particular belief is a little portion of "religion" -- it's like a venn diagram where religion is a giant circle and the various faiths are little circles inside the big religion circle. To me (and to many others,) religion should be a synonym with "belief" or more accurately "belief system." Everyone has a system of beliefs, it's part of being human; there's even a part of your brain devoted solely to it.

further, i see that "church" and religion are often tied together, and they need to be separated too. In catholicism (and probably a lot of the other faiths, but i don't know for certain) "Church" with a capital letter refers to the faith, while "church" refers to the place where one goes to participate in ceremonies as a community. Church is a culture -- in this culture, there are certain behavioral and physical expectations, just like any other culture. Often, they require going to church with the church. I hope that makes sense... one really needs to think about it more than just face value.



so. back to your statement. Religion how you put together a belief system. Faiths (or Churches) are cultures with a common belief system or religion. People attend and make up the "church," which is the people and the space in which ceremonies take place. Some faiths' beliefs pertain to what happens when we die. Some faiths' beliefs include healing. Some people who are members of a certain faith believe that participating in the faith's traditions will return some favorable something to them -- and take comfort in it.









As always, the above is what [i]I[/i] believe. Your mileage may vary. I've discovered what i've written above by doing exactly what i've asked you to do -- challenge your beliefs.

please, (unless i've written something terribly confusingly,) take a good 5-10 minutes to really think about what i've said before responding. I'm not trying to convert you to a faith, i'm just trying to challenge the prejudices and associations certain words invoke in all of us. I realize this is the internet where nothing matters, but just this once use that independent mind of yours to take up my challenge.

Win A Rabbit 02-21-2008 04:00 PM

^ will read when i get home. i have to go to work now, though.

Undisco Kidd 02-21-2008 04:01 PM

[quote=sic]blah blah blah soup and doughnuts or maybe coffee?[/quote]

it's because you're black.

they don't serve [i]your type[/i].

bobby__johnny 02-21-2008 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=Win A Rabbit;16013347]a friend of mine worked at tim horton's for like 2 years and told me to never ever buy the soup or chili.


and i walked over to tim horton's a while back at like 1 am to get a coffee and dougnut, and went to the drive-thru, and they refused to serve me. there was nobody behind me, but they were all "umm this is a drive-thru" and i was all "umm it takes 30 seconds to get a coffee and doughnut it's not a big deal and i dont drive and the front doors are closed this is my only option" and they were all "umm sorry" and closed the window.

i haven't been there since.[/QUOTE]

this girl my brother is going out with works at tims....said a regular muffin has more fat in it than a Big Mac....thats scary.

Chippy569 02-21-2008 04:01 PM

and for a quick, short comedic break, this is a funny comic.

[img]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png[/img]

bobby__johnny 02-21-2008 04:02 PM

:lol:

classy

the_pure_drummer 02-21-2008 04:07 PM

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4[/url]

lmldrummer 02-21-2008 04:15 PM

hey guys

fishbulb 02-21-2008 04:50 PM

hey

bobby__johnny 02-21-2008 04:50 PM

oh hai

fishbulb 02-21-2008 04:56 PM

hai or hey

Seafroggys 02-21-2008 05:26 PM

[QUOTE=Chippy569;16013384]and for a quick, short comedic break, this is a funny comic.

[img]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png[/img][/QUOTE]

hahaha, that made me LIS! (laugh inside)

Ill Mitch 02-21-2008 05:38 PM

Xkcd is one of the best online comic strips out there.

bobby__johnny 02-21-2008 05:39 PM

i'm a Cyanide & Happiness fan myself

[url]http://www.explosm.net/comics/517/[/url]

Panopticon 02-21-2008 05:44 PM

[quote=Win A Rabbit;16013347]a friend of mine worked at tim horton's for like 2 years and told me to never ever buy the soup or chili.


and i walked over to tim horton's a while back at like 1 am to get a coffee and dougnut, and went to the drive-thru, and they refused to serve me. there was nobody behind me, but they were all "umm this is a drive-thru" and i was all "umm it takes 30 seconds to get a coffee and doughnut it's not a big deal and i dont drive and the front doors are closed this is my only option" and they were all "umm sorry" and closed the window.

i haven't been there since.[/quote]

all the tim horton's here keep the lobby open 24/7

Panopticon 02-21-2008 05:46 PM

[quote=the_pure_drummer;16013409][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4[/url][/quote]

pure you always like the crappiest videos.

bobby__johnny 02-21-2008 05:49 PM

[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;16013853]all the tim horton's here keep the lobby open 24/7[/QUOTE]

Tim Hortons in the local hospital. top that :lol:

Panopticon 02-21-2008 05:58 PM

yeah i've seen that many a time.

we have about 5 tim hortons' within about a mile of eachother.

bobby__johnny 02-21-2008 06:00 PM

lol. let me get a map of saint john and mark off the tims in the uptown alone :lol:

bobby__johnny 02-21-2008 06:10 PM

[url]http://i26.tinypic.com/23salb7.jpg[/url]

note the distance gauge at the bottom :lol:

ace76543 02-21-2008 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;16013904]yeah i've seen that many a time.

we have about 5 tim hortons' within about a mile of eachother.[/QUOTE]

tim hortons in canada is to starbucks in the US, simply put

bobby__johnny 02-21-2008 06:39 PM

pretty much yeah

Panopticon 02-21-2008 07:16 PM

we have starbucks everywhere too.

in fact...most tim horton's have a starbucks right next to, if not very close to them.

bobby__johnny 02-21-2008 07:21 PM

like my entrepreneurship class said "the best place to put a Mcdonalds is next to a Burger King"

TimJim 02-21-2008 07:32 PM

hola

Panopticon 02-21-2008 07:32 PM

wudup

TimJim 02-21-2008 07:35 PM

nm is working on my movie

oliv_da_skinmasher 02-21-2008 07:39 PM

Orite guys

green242 02-21-2008 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;16014086]we have starbucks everywhere too.

in fact...most tim horton's have a starbucks right next to, if not very close to them.[/QUOTE]

Tims is the popular one in Nova Scotia.. I think there are over 150 in the Halifax area. something like that. THere is 3 in my town, all within about 10 minute walk of eachother. SOme places in Halifax there is literally a tims next door to a tims. It's crazy, and they are still both busy.

TimJim 02-21-2008 08:01 PM

i got my braces today, etp2 :(

Panopticon 02-21-2008 08:04 PM

lame...btw tim must spread.

Panopticon 02-21-2008 08:07 PM

Whats a good bass drum riser besides the DW 9909?

oliv_da_skinmasher 02-21-2008 08:25 PM

quiet in here

TimJim 02-21-2008 08:25 PM

too quiet...


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oliv_da_skinmasher 02-21-2008 08:28 PM

Is there summat we dont know?

fishbulb 02-21-2008 09:04 PM

[quote=TimJim;16014254]i got my braces today, etp2 :([/quote]

I should get mine off in two months.

oliv_da_skinmasher 02-21-2008 09:06 PM

Braces at your age ha

oliv_da_skinmasher 02-21-2008 09:08 PM

[IMG]http://i31.tinypic.com/684f41.jpg[/IMG]

Static 02-21-2008 09:11 PM

lol no braces


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