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ace_of_bass 02-12-2005 11:11 AM

Hey hey guys. After hearing so much buzz about Dream Theater on these forums I decided to go out and experience some of the magic for myself, so I got Train of Thought, and I love it. Its so good it makes my head hurt just listening to how good they are. I'm gonna get Images and Words next. Do you guys know if they're coming out with a new album, or better yet, if they're touring any time soon?

Tails 02-12-2005 11:20 AM

I got the albums in this order:
ToT
Awake
Scenes From a Memory
A Change of Seasons
When Dream and Day Unite
I have burned copies of Images and Words and 6 Degrees.
The only Album I haven't heard in full is FiF

[quote]Hey hey guys. After hearing so much buzz about Dream Theater on these forums I decided to go out and experience some of the magic for myself, so I got Train of Thought, and I love it. Its so good it makes my head hurt just listening to how good they are. I'm gonna get Images and Words next. Do you guys know if they're coming out with a new album, or better yet, if they're touring any time soon?[/quote]

Just a heads up, Images and Words is nothing like Train of Thought, so don't be expecting it. It isn't nearly as heavy, but it is an amazing album, much better that Train of Though IMO.
I'm not sure about the status of their next album, I heard a rumor a while back that they might be writing parts of it now but I'm not certain. They do have a few dates for Europe this summer at a couple festivals and I'm not sure about any other dates they have planned for this year.

MAthiAS 02-12-2005 11:27 AM

If you like the heavy stuff, you might be better off with 6DoiT or SFAM rather than Images and Words. Unless you're open minded like that. Oh yeah, and Petrucci's got his CD coming out soon.

3rdplanet 02-12-2005 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=ace_of_bass]Hey hey guys. After hearing so much buzz about Dream Theater on these forums I decided to go out and experience some of the magic for myself, so I got Train of Thought, and I love it. Its so good it makes my head hurt just listening to how good they are. I'm gonna get Images and Words next. Do you guys know if they're coming out with a new album, or better yet, if they're touring any time soon?[/QUOTE]

Good to see you like the 'Theater. Nexy best release for you would probably be 6DoIT, or Scenes from a Memory.

And seeing as you're a new fan, make sure you talk about the technique only in moderation. People will just bash you if all you say is how fast they play or whatever. Sorry if that sounds nasty. Just some advice to escape the 'musically enlightened' know it alls.

MAthiAS 02-12-2005 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=3rdplanet]And seeing as you're a new fan, make sure you talk about the technique only in moderation. People will just bash you if all you say is how fast they play or whatever. Sorry if that sounds nasty. Just some advice to escape the 'musically enlightened' know it alls.[/QUOTE]
:lol: How true...

Lord Abortion 02-12-2005 02:46 PM

I've never posted ITT before as I hadn't heard DT before...

I bought images and words on a whim today and was blown away
I will buy all the dream theater albums I can get my hands on
Jesus this band are good...

Iron Man 02-12-2005 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]
Jesus this band are good... [/QUOTE]

That sentence are sick!

3rdplanet 02-13-2005 04:59 PM

Images and Words is just amazing.

BradyEB 02-15-2005 12:04 AM

^Must pick it up.
Im just wonderring do any of you guys have a band that covers a DT song and if so what song?
I'm just Interested.

The JoZ 02-15-2005 12:05 AM

I would love to cover The Glass Prison in my band, but it would be a bitch to learn :(

The JoZ 02-15-2005 12:07 AM

Oh yeah, if you really like ToT, the best album to get after that IMO is Awake

BradyEB 02-15-2005 02:09 AM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]I would love to cover The Glass Prison in my band, but it would be a bitch to learn :([/QUOTE]

Man the middle section would rule so much if you did \m/
A guitarist in my Power/thrash with Death and Heavy metal influence wants to play Pull Me under. Im not really into the idea much thou.

Burdcheese 02-15-2005 09:45 AM

Got/watched the Budokan DVD today.

That was amazing.
It really shows how ridiculously talented those guys are - and also really personable in the backstage extras.

I wish I was the kid who got to go up and drum with Mike :(

The JoZ 02-15-2005 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=BradyEB]Man the middle section would rule so much if you did \m/
A guitarist in my Power/thrash with Death and Heavy metal influence wants to play Pull Me under. Im not really into the idea much thou.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, naturally, that's the section I can't play.

I can't play the triplets in the breakdown, and I can't play the solo section. I can play 9/10's of everything else though, on bass.

Meh.

IvortheEngineDriver 02-15-2005 12:48 PM

I want my band to play "As I am"...what's amusing is that my lead singer sounds like Eddie Vedder, so, I don't know how it would work. I can play it...kinda, up to the real fast part, its something I am eventually gonna get, but I really dont want to tune my B string to C to play it...so, I might just play it low.

Though, Glass Prison would be amazing...god, that song owns me! I hope you can do it Joz!

The JoZ 02-15-2005 01:06 PM

I tune my B string up to a C all the time, it's really no big deal, even on bass.

I'm not sure if The Glass Prison will ever happen though, because I don't know if anyone can learn the solo section...and even if we did, we don't have a keyboardist, and more than likely never will...these guys are more into melodic metal / metalcore than prog, so...

I still plan to try and keep learning at least the bass to TGP though :cool:

Cain 02-15-2005 01:15 PM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]I tune my B string up to a C all the time, it's really no big deal, even on bass.

I'm not sure if The Glass Prison will ever happen though, because I don't know if anyone can learn the solo section...and even if we did, we don't have a keyboardist, and more than likely never will...these guys are more into melodic metal / metalcore than prog, so...

I still plan to try and keep learning at least the bass to TGP though :cool:[/QUOTE]

The keyboard breaks just after the unison solos have some of the craziest DT bass playing that ever made it into the mix. Good luck with that.

Quebec 02-15-2005 04:03 PM

[url]http://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates.php#summer2005[/url]

Another date confirmed for the 2005/2006 tour
June 12th - Buchholz Footballstadium - Zurich, Switzerland
(Appearing with Iron Maiden)

The JoZ 02-15-2005 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=Ripper22]The keyboard breaks just after the unison solos have some of the craziest DT bass playing that ever made it into the mix. Good luck with that.[/QUOTE]


Are you referring to the little interlude between John and John where Rudess and Portnoy drop out for like a few bars before going into that heavy pre-outro?

Cain 02-15-2005 08:16 PM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Are you referring to the little interlude between John and John where Rudess and Portnoy drop out for like a few bars before going into that heavy pre-outro?[/QUOTE]

No, I'm talking about the little keyboard breaks after the solos that go Petrucci-Rudess-Petrucci-Rudess -Petrucci/Rudess. The countermelodies Myung is playing against Rudess in those sections are incredible.

Tails 02-15-2005 08:20 PM

[QUOTE=Ripper22]No, I'm talking about the little keyboard breaks after the solos that go Petrucci-Rudess-Petrucci-Rudess -Petrucci/Rudess. The countermelodies Myung is playing against Rudess in those sections are incredible.[/QUOTE]

The part right in around the 11 minute area?
If so, that is some nice bass work in there.

IvortheEngineDriver 02-17-2005 06:34 PM

I have a question:

Are they all pissed at Myung? They did Liquid Tension w/o him. They rejected his songs because they weren't fully structured right for them. Is there dissention amongst the ranks? is he going to leave a la Kevin Moore?

I'm not a 100% sure about all this, maybe someone could clarify

Quebec 02-17-2005 06:56 PM

[QUOTE=IvortheEngineDriver]I have a question:

Are they all pissed at Myung? They did Liquid Tension w/o him. They rejected his songs because they weren't fully structured right for them. Is there dissention amongst the ranks? is he going to leave a la Kevin Moore?

I'm not a 100% sure about all this, maybe someone could clarify[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone is pissed at him. I just think that Myung is more poetic than the other members, and sometimes it can get hard to incorporate this into a band when your not the leader.

But no one knows, he doesn't talk really often!

Tails 02-17-2005 07:22 PM

[QUOTE=IvortheEngineDriver]I have a question:

Are they all pissed at Myung? They did Liquid Tension w/o him. They rejected his songs because they weren't fully structured right for them. Is there dissention amongst the ranks? is he going to leave a la Kevin Moore?

I'm not a 100% sure about all this, maybe someone could clarify[/QUOTE]

They never did LTE purposely without him.

LTE was originally Portnoy's side project from DT. He couldn't find a guitarist that he wanted to work with and his wife suggested that he use Petrucci because the two of them work so well together. When LTE formed, Rudess was still working with the Dixie Dreggs if I'm not mistaken. After working with Rudess, when Sherinian was out of the band, Jordan was an obvious choice.

It just became a stroke of luck that 3 members of DT happened to be in LTE.

After one of the more recent albums they had a rule set down that if you were to submit lyrics, they had to have a natural flow to them so that they did not have to spend time working with them to try and make some sense of of them for a song. Myung had written generally abstract and non flowing poetry for them to use as lyrics and Petrucci and Portnoy had to sit down and work a song out of it. They still accept all lyrics that come their way, Myung has just never submitted any since.

Quebec 02-17-2005 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=Tails]
Myung had written generally abstract and non flowing poetry for them to use as lyrics [/QUOTE]
That's true. Just take a look at "lifting shadows off a dream"

Deth 02-18-2005 11:44 AM

I've just gotten my first DT album (Awake) and it's pretty awesome. Any suggestions for next one? Note: my favorite song off it is Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
(sorry to break the flow of the thread)

shawnson 02-18-2005 11:59 AM

go for images and words. definitely some of their best work. then get a change of seasons or six degrees of inner turbulence.

the2stranger 02-18-2005 12:16 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]I've just gotten my first DT album (Awake) and it's pretty awesome. Any suggestions for next one? Note: my favorite song off it is Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
(sorry to break the flow of the thread)[/QUOTE]

Images and words :thumb:

too bad Myung has withdrawn completely from submitting lyrics (or poetry)
I really like his work, example: learning to live.

and I thought Moore had some awesome lyrics as well, I wish he would contibute some lyrics once more. just lyrics no playing.
it's just that I really enjoy his writing style.
but I don't really like OSI, I wish I did :upset:

Deth 02-18-2005 12:18 PM

geez, first you help me with Opeth, now with DT, looks like I have my first Musicianforums buddy. Thanks, IaW it is.

the2stranger 02-18-2005 12:19 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]geez, first you help me with Opeth, now with DT, looks like I have my first Musicianforums buddy. Thanks, IaW it is.[/QUOTE]


yw

enjoy your stay :)

Deth 02-18-2005 01:44 PM

whoa, I just learned scarred and 6:00 on bass. good times. An hour well spent.

Tails 02-18-2005 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]geez, first you help me with Opeth, now with DT, looks like I have my first Musicianforums buddy. Thanks, IaW it is.[/QUOTE]

After Images and Words, definately get Scenes from a Memory.

Deth 02-18-2005 02:33 PM

well that brings my wnated CD list to a total of....more than I can possibly afford. Thanks guys.

mprules 02-18-2005 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=Tails]After Images and Words, definately get Scenes from a Memory.[/QUOTE]
nah go in order, awake rules, every song on it is great

MAthiAS 02-18-2005 04:05 PM

[QUOTE=mprules]nah go in order, awake rules, every song on it is great[/QUOTE]
The guy already has Awake.

Deth 02-18-2005 09:49 PM

yes I do, and yes, it does rule.

Quebec 02-20-2005 12:57 PM

hey guys check this out [url]http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=760480[/url]
It's a guy on the MP forum who recorded the Blind Faith solo. Pretty good IMO.

the2stranger 02-20-2005 01:13 PM

wow, that's :eek: good

thanks for the link

MAthiAS 02-20-2005 01:35 PM

That guy pwns. And he nailed the tone. Blind Faith is one of my favorite JP solos.

bball_1523 02-20-2005 01:48 PM

how is Jordan Rudesses' solo album? Like what type of music does it resemble?


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