[QUOTE=cheeser_1]shizzy has it down. i wouldn't consider them horror punk in the least. they covered the misfits a couple times. so did the bouncing souls. they used a little horror punk type imagery. so do most bands, to some extent or another.

but the nephilim aren't monsters, they're real, it says so in the bible dammit.[/QUOTE]
I think in the lyrics in that song express some of Davey's views on drugs, drinking, and why his straight edge-edness. I think he used the nephilim as a symbol, although the nephilim had been created prior to the writing of the song. I don't know what the nephilim is in the bible though. =/

I'm getting a tatoo of the nephilim really soon in between my shoulderblades. Probably in the next week. Whenever I find time.

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]I think in the lyrics in that song express some of Davey's views on drugs, drinking, and why his straight edge-edness. I think he used the nephilim as a symbol, although the nephilim had been created prior to the writing of the song. I don't know what the nephilim is in the bible though. =/

I'm getting a tatoo of the nephilim really soon in between my shoulderblades. Probably in the next week. Whenever I find time.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim[/url]

If anyone has thier cover of Minor Threats "No Reason" could you please post it. I would appreicate it so much. Thanks.

it may be here [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=349687[/url] but i dont know for sure

Thanks, but I searched and nothing came up. I'm pretty sure it's live.

Dude, are you a ****ing cuke or something. AFI (a finger inside) is nowhere near punk.
They might have had fast beats at one point but the music as a whole was far from the punk attitude given by many great bands such as A Global Threat and Clit 45. Please, never offend our punk scene by brining in such a mainstream band to represent an underground scene.

[QUOTE=AGlobalChaos]Dude, are you a ****ing cuke or something. AFI (a finger inside) is nowhere near punk.
They might have had fast beats at one point but the music as a whole was far from the punk attitude given by many great bands such as A Global Threat and Clit 45. Please, never offend our punk scene by brining in such a mainstream band to represent an underground scene.[/QUOTE]



Shut the fuc[SIZE=2]k[/SIZE] up twat. They were punk at a time.

[QUOTE=AGlobalChaos]Dude, are you a ****ing cuke or something. AFI (a finger inside) is nowhere near punk.
They might have had fast beats at one point but the music as a whole was far from the punk attitude given by many great bands such as A Global Threat and Clit 45. Please, never offend our punk scene by brining in such a mainstream band to represent an underground scene.[/QUOTE]
OMG PUNKCORE TO TEH MAXX PUNXXXX UNTIE!

shut up. get a life. fucking morons.

[QUOTE=cheeser_1]. ****ing morons.[/QUOTE]


what did i do?

Pretty sure he wasn't referring to you, chairman.

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]What?!?!?

I don't get how everyone says they did post-hardcore in the pre-STS days. And I don't get the "horror punk" thing either.

The way I see it, they have been close to hardcore their entire career. Their earlier sound was similar to hardcore in the vein of 7 Seconds. Then they transitioned into a heavier hardcore sound. Then to melodic hardcore as I see it. And now post-hardcore. They may have sung about demons in some of their songs, but I think that in songs such as "The Nephilim" they are actually more symbolic of other things than actual monsters. And certainly they didn't base their lyrics off of horror material which doesn't warrant them the title of "horror punk".[/QUOTE]
I usually go with:
ATASF-punk
VPOY-punk
SYMAOYE-post-hc (because of timing not necessarily sound)
BSITS-melodic hc
TAOD-melodic hc
STS-halfway between melodic HC and Cure-ish-ness

The "horror punk" thing was in reference to all their Misfits covers (I still cannot *stand* Demonomania) and how some of the stuff on TAOD has that horror thing going on a bit, like in Catch a Hot One and Sacrifice Theory with all the bleeding and gore in the lyrics.

The Nephilim are the children of male angels and female humans. By having relations with humans, those angels fell and the Nephilim are known as the children of fallen angels.

SYMAOYE sounds like a straight up hardcore record to me. By timing, do you mean, the year of release?


I don't understand everyone's beef with "Demonomania". The song owns. Hard. Better than the Misfits version. A hardcore song with less than a minute in length. What more is there to ask?

Yeah the year. Most hardcore is 80s so it's sort of late

And Demonomania is just like "MY FATHER'S A WOLF DEMONOMANIA! DEMONOMANIA! MY MOTHER'S A WHORE! DEMONOMANIA!" over and over and over and over and....you get it

[QUOTE=maco]Yeah the year. Most hardcore is 80s so it's sort of late

And Demonomania is just like "MY FATHER'S A WOLF DEMONOMANIA! DEMONOMANIA! MY MOTHER'S A WHORE! DEMONOMANIA!" over and over and over and over and....you get it[/QUOTE]
Yeah haha. I prefer Misfits version over the AFI version.

I prefer the AFI versions of both that and Halloween.

I agree on Halloween, and I'll add Last Caress (that's a really good cover) but I just don't like Demonomania. Haven't heard the Misfits one yet. My friend Jorgan says it was a bad song to start with.

[QUOTE=maco]Yeah the year. Most hardcore is 80s so it's sort of late

And Demonomania is just like "MY FATHER'S A WOLF DEMONOMANIA! DEMONOMANIA! MY MOTHER'S A WHORE! DEMONOMANIA!" over and over and over and over and....you get it[/QUOTE]
Psh.... I'm listening to Suicide File right now and I gotta say, hardcore is almost as good now as it was in the 80's. Plus, the term "post-hardcore" doesn't refer to the time period. It's a totally different genre with a totally different sound.

And yeah, the lyrics aren't the best. But the song is fun. And the recording for all of the Misfits - Earth A.D. is kind of poor, and Danzig's voice isn't as good on it as the other albums. So I think AFI's version completely blows the original out of the water.

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]Psh.... I'm listening to Suicide File right now and I gotta say, hardcore is almost as good now as it was in the 80's. Plus, the term "post-hardcore" doesn't refer to the time period. It's a totally different genre with a totally different sound.

And yeah, the lyrics aren't the best. But the song is fun. And the recording for all of the Misfits - Earth A.D. is kind of poor, and Danzig's voice isn't as good on it as the other albums. So I think AFI's version completely blows the original out of the water.[/QUOTE]
ah so sorry. I was under the impression that "post" was in reference to the era

I'm buying [url=http://www.jobbedout.com/ebay/2005-01-08/100_0436.jpg]this[/url] today as long as I don't get outbid :(

If you don't get it, I think Nitro still sells it in their online store. [url=http://www.cinderblock.com/wc.dll?WebStore~ViewItem~NT~NT-101~SID=05072514002350423828]See?[/url] What's the curent bid? It's only $12 from Nitro.

[QUOTE=maco]I agree on Halloween, and I'll add Last Caress (that's a really good cover) but I just don't like Demonomania. Haven't heard the Misfits one yet. My friend Jorgan says it was a bad song to start with.[/QUOTE]
I must admit, they do a great cover of Last Caress. And that's my favorite Misfits song.

"I Got Something to Say! I Killed a baby Today.."

[QUOTE=Music Nerd]I must admit, they do a great cover of Last Caress. And that's my favorite Misfits song.

"I Got Something to Say! I Killed a baby Today.."[/QUOTE]
Its [b]your[/b] baby today.

[QUOTE=maco]If you don't get it, I think Nitro still sells it in their online store. [url=http://www.cinderblock.com/wc.dll?WebStore~ViewItem~NT~NT-101~SID=05072514002350423828]See?[/url] What's the curent bid? It's only $12 from Nitro.[/QUOTE]i love when people sell **** on ebay that you can get for cheaper directly from the label/band. it's ludicrous.
[QUOTE=maco]The Nephilim are the children of male angels and female humans. By having relations with humans, those angels fell and the Nephilim are known as the children of fallen angels.[/QUOTE]yup, we got that covered quite thoroughly when i posted this link: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim[/url]
[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]Pretty sure he wasn't referring to you, chairman.[/QUOTE]yeah, i was definitely referring to the other guy who said the dumb stuff.

I keep seeing people on ebay like "Oh this is a set of 2 red vinyls in a gatefold that makes up AFI's Sing the Sorrow. It was limited to 10,000 and they were all sold out immediately" It's like, gimme a break. Yeah, they were limited, but Adeline still has a huge stock that they sell for $12 a set.

Almost anyone who sells anything on Ebay, will say it's "rare", because there is some idiot out there, who thinks it actually is rare.

and then there are us smart people who look everything up on afiseries.com to see what the pressing limit was and what label released it then check out the label's site to see how much it costs from them

[QUOTE=maco]and then there are us smart people who look everything up on afiseries.com to see what the pressing limit was and what label released it then check out the label's site to see how much it costs from them[/QUOTE]

You really like AFI don't you.

[QUOTE=Remedy]Its [b]your[/b] baby today.[/QUOTE]
Oh.. yes it is. Sorry, I got it confused. I always the the first verse was "A", and the second was "Your". My mistake.

[QUOTE=alkalinesk8er]You really like AFI don't you.[/QUOTE]
well, for any band, it's a good idea to check around before you buy something expensive as "rare." i've got almost every rancid 7" and most of them cost me less than $3 (ruby soho cost me like $6 or $7).