Hahaha, funny you say that... I was at a church (slash: Christian rehab) show this past Friday and they have a gigantic mural of Jesus behind the stage and there was indeed about 10 kids hardcore dancing.

Hahaha, ok.

you're not online on soulseek BB, add me. axeslinga_32

....OK Now i'm confused!
 

....hey there if anyone is reading this!!!
I need to know if A.F.i is a hardcore band or just something else!
needing an answer here!!
bye :thumb:

nah afi not hardcore, not even punk.
has anyone ever heard of the band called slapshot? my friend told me about them, they are an old time hardcore band and are pretty good.

AFI used to be hardcore/hardcore punk. Not anymore though.

Slapshot are goooooooood.

essentially, most hardcore and metalcore are similar (if not almost exactly alike), so why whine about people mixing the two terms up? All the hardcore, metalcore, grindcore, emocores, etc. have one thing in common: they all end in "core" which comes from the term "hardcore" (and each genre is reminiscent of basic hardcore), so why not just let people call it all hardcore and let the sub-genres come into play when you are in an in-depth or specific discussion? Quit making up all these silly sub-categories and such. Oh yeah and sorry for being off topic or anything at all, I was just refferring to the original threadstarter's post.

Yeah, and I bet you think Atreyu and Avenged Sevenfold are hardcore. There's a big difference between hardcore, metalcore, and the stuff that gets labeled as metalcore but isn't. Obviously, you know nothing about that.

You have a point. Atreyu and Avenged Sevenfold are not plain hardcore, not by a long shot. But I'm just saying it is easier to just call it all hardcore since it all stems from the same genre

But the thing is... it doesn't. That's why this thread was made. Listen to some of the bands the threadstarter listed as hardcore and you'll see what I mean.

EDIT: Here.

Check out Count Me Out, Unbroken, and The Promise: [url]http://www.indecisionrecords.com/multimedia/index.html[/url]

If you want more straight up hardcore, download pretty much anything from [url]www.bridgenine.com[/url]

Though I agree with the definitions at the beginning of the threads most "metalcore" bands use the word "hardcore" to describe their style, fans, etc. I was reading an interview with Eighteen Visions in [I]Outburn [/I](in which I found that 18V are edge and [I]Outburn [/I] gave the new KsE 10/10 and Obsessions 9/10) and they use the word hardcore to describe themselves and growing in the hardcore scene. This is the definition I am used to. I have never heard the term metalcore used outside this forum, save one or two times. I always called bands like PTW, Bleeding Through, A7x hardcore. Bands like Give Up the Ghost, Kill Your Idols and Husker Du were at first grouped into hardcore and then slowly hardcore punk. From what I had seen it seemed like kids who listened to pop-punk tended to call PTW hardcore, while punk kids, already having a genre called hardcore, called it metalcore. I don't know. The point I'm trying to make is that the definitions given in this thread were very good and I'm starting to get use to saying metalcore, I still use hardcore a lot of the time.

never seen it used outside of the forums? i see it all over the internet.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]AFI used to be hardcore/hardcore punk. Not anymore though.

Slapshot are goooooooood.[/QUOTE]
i know, i need to find where i can get their cds. :thumb:

I'll just break it down a little more... Metal(core) is based off of metal guitar riffs, Hardcore isn't. Metal(core) has the (core) in it for the fact all they did was incorporate the breakdown... You cannot say that both come close in comparrison. The sound that both genres are based around are completely different. A band like Shai Hulud and a band like The Black Dahlia Murder do not sound the same nor should even be considered to be grouped into the same genre... I have always kept hardcore and metalcore in seperate genres. I get so Fing annoyed by little kids who just got into the music when I hear "Atreyu is hardcore" or even worst "Bleeding Through is hardcore". Sometimes I just want to ask them if they are tone deaf or deaf in general. I'am done now...

I guess where I was getting at with my post was to encourage you guys to sort of make hardcore its own genre. Like putting metalcore, emocore, whatever-the-f*ck-you-want-cores all under hardcore. Like hardcore could be a "mother genre", if you will. Punk has its sub-categories, metal has its sub-categories, so why can't we just have hardcore and its sub-categories instead of looking at hardcore and metalcore as completely different styles of music. As cbmartinez says, most "core" bands use the general term hardcore to describe their music. I know that metalcore and hardcore are quite different from eachother. I'm not deaf, so I can tell the differences. But anyways, good job, threadstarter. Your definitions of the music were clear and pretty good.

I see what you're saying I killd Kurt. Fair enough.

[QUOTE=NewKindofArmy03]i got it from [url]http://www.cflhardcore.com[/url]. it was crazy, the fight just came out of nowhere and then the guitarist hits one of the guys with it. then it looks like he throws his guitar to the ground and runs in. did they hit him or something when they were fighting?[/QUOTE]
I'm on this website, it's awesome has a bunch of videos. I wish I actually owned this DVD though, so I can watch this kid get hit over and over again.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]I see what you're saying I killd Kurt. Fair enough.[/QUOTE]

thank you, buddy

Oh, about the Converge video:

Yeah, that's hillarious. It's actually the bassist that hits somebody in the head with his instrument though. Which I guess is technically a guitarist but still.

Holy crap, it already comes out tomorrow? I had no idea.

Is gon' be tight as 'ell.

Hey, Buddy, did you read my ramble about hardcore on the previous page?

Yes. Also fair enough.

I don't think that's it. I gave [I]They're Only Chasing Safety[/I] another chance on a completely clean slate, old stuff aside, and I still didn't like it. "Young and Aspiring" is good, and "It's Dangerous Business Just Walking Out Your Front Door" isn't bad, but I still hate the rest. I just can't stand that sound period, it irritates me to death.

Yeah, that's why I like those two songs. They're innovative and bring something refreshing to the table. Especially that choir part.

Why BTBAM don't suck: [url]http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/b/between_the_buried_and_me/camilla_rhodes_tab.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Why BTBAM don't suck: [url]http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/b/between_the_buried_and_me/camilla_rhodes_tab.htm[/url][/QUOTE]


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They are indeed one of the most talented bands to come around in awhile.

Hahah I saw that tab here on Mx. I attempted to play it and I was just like after the first line "Fu[size=2]c[/size]k this"

Me and my band's other guitarist are going to spend the remainder of the night attempting this. I can play it, just not up to speed. I might be able to get it down if I really work on it.

I thought you wern't in a band, only wanted to be in one?

Well... we're more 3 guys that get together and bs for a few hours than we are a band. We're always throwing out our material and as of right now we have 0 songs.