[QUOTE=Screamin_Demon_Auz]deadinlove,
singing for dummies really isnt that complicated after you start to learn some of the terms. The best thing for you to do is go straight to the CD and just work on the exercises, and read the comments in the book on each exercise. It tells you what your supposed to be feeling while you do the exercises.[/QUOTE]

oh thanks man :)

I was hoping you'd reply

Everyones going out now so I'll go start :p

:thumb:

No problem,
start on Chapter 11 with the CD, its the chapter I believe that goes track by track with the CD

[QUOTE=deadinlove]I'm nervous enough as it is about singing and today my mother went and told my auntie :angry:

Who'l probs blab to everyone else

Why the f u ck like!?

:upset: *put off*

Singing for dummies is complicated

I think I need to go to a teacher[/QUOTE]
fvck em...hold on to the feelings and let it drive you to be better, and you can write a good song about it all. I've been through it too...sux.

[QUOTE=deadlikeme222]dude so u scream with ur throat NOT with your gut??? cuz i know plenty of people who scream with their throat. HELP[/QUOTE]
Actually its both but people just generally say the gut because you need to be brining the pressure from the gut. if you dont you will attempt to find the extra pressure that you need for the sound and affects by closing your throat off to let the pressure build behind the cords. This can lead to exponentially shorter work time, quicker fatigue, which equals less work done for the cords and muscles, and a higher chance of damage. But screaming with rasp is technically still using the throat because youre pushing extra air out past the cords onto the back of the throat. Its such a slight thing that i think I'm going to start referring to it as leaving the throat in the way. Because you just relax and you dont squeeze it down.

to sum up, you come from the gut, you activate the cords to get the tone you want with optimal balance, then after all that is down, then you work on getting it to sound distorted.

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]fvck em...hold on to the feelings and let it drive you to be better, and you can write a good song about it all. I've been through it too...sux.[/QUOTE]

Cheers Merkaba :) :D

i have a specific question i would like to be answered please. im a begginer singer, and have started singing with my band, but i want to be able to sing like my heros (hetfield, zakk wylde, ect) but when i try i cant get that gruff growl kind of thing. as i said im a begginer and cant really afford lessons at this moment in time, so any advice will be appreciated :thumb:

[QUOTE=deadinlove]Cheers Merkaba :) :D[/QUOTE]
:chug:

[QUOTE]Yea I havent been able to start trying your execrises yet, but besides my desire to be the greatest guitarist ever (no joke, though i know there is no greatest ever) I would love to be able to sing.....I have been told i am tone deaf.....and i really started to believe it when i started playing guitar and i couldnt tune my own guitar.....My favorite singer is James Heitfield from Metallica, and i still try and match my voice to his all the time[/QUOTE]

Man, I am the exact same way.

hey, does anyone know of a bass singing blues? i would like to know because i am a bass and i would like to sing blues but i have never heard a bass in blues before

[QUOTE=fuel4fire]hey, does anyone know of a bass singing blues? i would like to know because i am a bass and i would like to sing blues but i have never heard a bass in blues before[/QUOTE]
Well do it. It would be more original. If youre worth a shlt.

i got 2 question.
1. who makes a cheap vocal processor and were can i get one.
2. were can i get a vocal warm up track and do u really need one.

1.Alesis Picoverb Processer is Approx. $80, Digitech Voco300 I believe its called is around $200. Alesis 3630 Compressor/Gate/Limiter is $100. Check them out

2.Look on GETSIGNED.COM for the two MP3s of Mark Baxters. Theres a warm up one and SECRETS OF SCREAMING

thanx :wave:

Yeah i'd like to know what type of voice does Cedric Bixler Zavala of the mars volta have? I'd say, tenor. I can sing and hit some of the notes he hits (but not as in tune or as strong, as I am new to singing, it'll take a while for me to sing like him) so I'd just like to know. Also, how do I know when I'm singing falsetto. I guess i'm a baritone, cause I can sing f#2 but my range is like almost 3 octaves! Do I have a high range or am I counting falsetto in this too? When do the notes you sing transition from your "normal" range into falsetto? Thanks guys.

can u just download the mp3s or do u have to buy them?

[QUOTE=guitarro777]Yeah i'd like to know what type of voice does Cedric Bixler Zavala of the mars volta have? I'd say, tenor. I can sing and hit some of the notes he hits (but not as in tune or as strong, as I am new to singing, it'll take a while for me to sing like him) so I'd just like to know. Also, how do I know when I'm singing falsetto. I guess i'm a baritone, cause I can sing f#2 but my range is like almost 3 octaves! Do I have a high range or am I counting falsetto in this too? When do the notes you sing transition from your "normal" range into falsetto? Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
I like ced and mars and atdi's stuff.
Well i think its nearly impossible to tell from his work. As far as trying to find out where one lays in the Fach system its kinda a stickie area.

Its a system based on projection and resonance that was needed in the older operas and stuff in theatres. Its more or less based on where the voice breaks between registers and one has to really know where their true voice ends and falsetto starts or begins to start and whether or not youre trying to tense up to alter it. The voice back in those days needed to carry and resonance helped. You get resonance by having the tension all the way throught the cords uniformly...aka true voice. Once the cords start to lose this they dont vibrate as well and the tones dont reach to the back of the audience. Dont quote me on this but if you can hit the a or b above middle c in your normal voice, comfortably,....... then you might want to consider looking into tenorhood...again, dont quote me.

Today in rock we have so much falsetto and mixed voice that it just doesnt make that much of a difference. I think alot of people want to be or know the exception. Tenors are way more rare than baritones and people want to be a tenor or reach higher notes just because. its more about working with the instrument you have. Youre just not gonna get a good sounding treble out of a 16 inch woofer no matter how good you are. A tight baritone is way better than a sloppy tenor. Plus i know from experience that a good smokey baritone sound can raise the hairs on a girls neck if you can swoon,hehe... :naughty: I'm just addressing this issue in general because alot of people always ask about whats your range, whats my range, what am I , etc. Today it doesnt matter unless your doing classical music. Although, technically it does help to do music based on your voice....technically. But who does that?

I can do all of Ced's stuff dead on, at least what i've heard, but I'm not a tenor. Freeze without an answer, free from all the shame....Good stuff!

Is there any special technique used for runs? Those runs that Usher does on his new song are pretty fu[b][i][/b][/i]cking awesome... at one part he goes like 2 octaves down and then back up. I can't even do a 4 note run. Am I supposed to be doing them the same way I usually sing, or are they a totally different technique?

Hey guys I have a questions

Over the past 6 months (im nearly 18) my falsetto has gone weird (i dont use it often) when I try and go into the falsetto range it might hold a falsetto note for a sec, but then it sounds raspy or drops out of falsetto, then maybe back into falsetto

or sometimes i try and go falsetto but NO notes come out, just the sound of me breathing out

I dont smoke
Dont Drink alcohol or coffee

thanks alot

Quick question:
anyone got some chest-voice range expanding exercises for me?

here a simple vocal warm-up thingy
online+downloadable
[url]http://www.bobmarks.com/warmup.html[/url]

[QUOTE=EcolliJK]Quick question:
anyone got some chest-voice range expanding exercises for me?[/QUOTE]
Chest voice? Not really something you can look into expanding. Youre gonna break into head at your "god given" bridge area whether you like it or not. And trying to do otherwise increases the chance for tension. hell it is tension. Other than keeping the larynx down there's really not much to do to expand chest. Trying to sing a head note with chest voice isnt a good practice.

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286232[/url]

[QUOTE=Eminence]Hey guys I have a questions

Over the past 6 months (im nearly 18) my falsetto has gone weird (i dont use it often) when I try and go into the falsetto range it might hold a falsetto note for a sec, but then it sounds raspy or drops out of falsetto, then maybe back into falsetto

or sometimes i try and go falsetto but NO notes come out, just the sound of me breathing out

I dont smoke
Dont Drink alcohol or coffee

thanks alot[/QUOTE]
incorrect technique and/or puberty related....
[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286232[/url]

So Merkaba, When I sing, the notes are out of tune. Does it take a while to develope your voice so you can sing notes perfect? I can hear and I know when I'm not in tune, and I can hear the note but I just can't match my intonation with that of the piano or the guitar ( I play guitar so usualy it's on my guitar.) My friend told me to sing scales (he's not a good singer, he's learning too, but his mom is an awesome singer, so he gets tips from her) but my intonation is way off. So i guess the jist of my question is: is not getting the notes in tune a muscianship/ear problem, or a "voice-box/vocal chords not yet developed" problem?

Perhaps I should post a recording of me singing (God help us all!) so u can see what the problem might be?

Guitarro...

Some times people miss notes by having tension in the larynx area so that the cords dont exactly get the intended amount of pull or stretch for the note your brain has in mind. That combined with too much or too little air can help miss notes as well. But in general...youre probably just inconsitent with your ear. If youre thinking too much about the notes or melodies youre trying to sing it will throw you off because you'll tense up as well. I would say just relax and dont think about the notes as much. Its hard to do if people are around. And of course practicing scales is a fundamental and that can always help. I like to just make up my own runs and scats along with my favorite songs. Try adding extra lyrics in spaces or solos ..that really helpe me. And singing acapella is good too. I guarantee if you get alone by yourself with noone around you will grow twice as fast.

Hey, I'm only the backup singer/lead guitarist in our band but I need some tips on singing to be able to help improve my friend/lead singer too, she's good, but with the music we play she has a hard time catching on

[QUOTE=rockster_steph]Hey, I'm only the backup singer/lead guitarist in our band but I need some tips on singing to be able to help improve my friend/lead singer too, she's good, but with the music we play she has a hard time catching on[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]

I've been doing backup vocals for my band for a few months now and i've been reading all these posts and stuff and its been a lot of help, i know im not that good, but im getting lessons soon. The only thing is, i have a lisp and i get really shy when i do the backup vocals. :upset: I honestly think i'd do better and be able to learn more if i didnt have a lisp. Does anybody know if theres anything i can do about it?
-Anthony

does the lisp show through in your singing as well? if it does, you could build it into your singing to achieve some nice effects!

Lots of people lose speach impediments when they start singing especially with a good teacher. I'm sure it will help!

My friends say it goes away when i sing, but when i record myself doing some acoustic songs i hear it and i hate it, but maybe its just me and my low self-esteem. I'll get through it. Thanks a lot, you guys are really helpful. On some message boards and stuff people can be really mean and stuff, but you guys are really really nice. Thanks again :-)