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Cain 03-16-2005 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=Disconnection Notice]Oh, I just read.

Hahaha, sucks for you.[/QUOTE]

He's gone...

Illmatic 03-16-2005 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=Ripper22]He's gone...[/QUOTE]

Eh, you get my point.

CemetaryGates9 03-16-2005 04:42 PM

Hmm, I'm pimping my instant messager profile by adding Metallica lyrics. Yay.

Bartender 03-16-2005 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=DN]
Eh, you get my point.[/QUOTE]

You can always make fun of him when he gets back. It's not like you let Antihero's ice-skating slip out of mind in between his visits.

Illmatic 03-16-2005 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]You can always make fun of him when he gets back. It's not like you let Antihero's ice-skating slip out of mind in between his visits.[/QUOTE]

You act like I was the sole perpetrator in that instance.

Jom 03-16-2005 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]You can always make fun of him when he gets back. It's not like you let Antihero's ice-skating slip out of mind in between his visits.[/QUOTE]
This is true :(

[quote=Ray]You act like I was the sole perpetrator in that instance.[/quote]
You're the only one (besides me) who repeatedly brings it up... :emo:

Bartender 03-16-2005 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=DN]
You act like I was the sole perpetrator in that instance.[/QUOTE]

Well originally I meant use "you" as a plural. But then that guy posted in the meantime so I had to edit in a quote to show what I was talking about.

/too much detail

NP APC - Magdalena

Cain 03-16-2005 04:47 PM

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]This is true :(


You're the only one (besides me) who repeatedly brings it up... :emo:[/QUOTE]

Don't YOU get emo on me. My roommate is emo 24/7 and it pisses me off.

Illmatic 03-16-2005 04:47 PM

/too tired to care at this point.

Bartender 03-16-2005 04:48 PM

[QUOTE=Ripper22]My roommate is emo 24/7...[/QUOTE]

Why?

Illmatic 03-16-2005 04:48 PM

[QUOTE=Ripper22]Don't YOU get emo on me. My roommate is emo 24/7 and it pisses me off.[/QUOTE]

Explanation.

Jom 03-16-2005 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=Ripper22]Don't YOU get emo on me. My roommate is emo 24/7 and it pisses me off.[/QUOTE]
I kid about being emo.

Is Vince your roommate?

lol

superpeer 03-16-2005 04:56 PM

Now to wait for the explanation. :eek:

NP : The Doors - Crystal Ship

Amazing song !

Jom 03-16-2005 05:01 PM

ATTN: Kombucha

It's Erik Estrada's birthday today :lol:

Bartender 03-16-2005 05:02 PM

Why would kombucha want to know that?

Jom 03-16-2005 05:03 PM

He used to have an Erik Estrada avatar that said, "You're a homo!".

Bartender 03-16-2005 05:04 PM

Oh. And, who is Erik Estrada?

:(

Kurtz 03-16-2005 05:05 PM

[url]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0261805/[/url]

Bartender 03-16-2005 05:08 PM

I think I've only seen one film with him in, and I can't remember him being in it.

Cain 03-16-2005 05:08 PM

Well, in short, my roommate has been in a lot of relationships that have ended with him being dumped. He considers himself a hopeless romantic, and his view of relationships has been very skewed by the dumps he's been put through. He used to believe in the Disney love thing of how the right person for you will meet you, but right now he's very shy and very pessimistic and is doing nothing to alleviate this state of mind. It pisses me off because I'm a pretty happy guy generally, and when I greet him or attempt to talk to him about things he usually continues staring depressed-like at his computer and doesn't even acknowledge that I'm talking to him. He sees himself as a victim, and he loves to wallow in his pain at being dumped. This is because he has found "the exquisite pain of being alone" (a very emo concept) in which he makes himself feel better by telling himself that he is a good person and deserves better.

This is all well and good. I have been rejected a lot and have felt a lot of the same stuff, including this "exquisite pain." But the thing that frustrates me is that he's caught himself in this place where he loves being in his "victim" state of mind and refuses to come out of the room or actually meet anyone under his own power. He's interested in a girl right now, but he could do better: I think he just latched on because he knew she liked him. And he wouldn't have even gotten off his *** to meet her unless her friends dragged him to her by force: he seemed to think that the best way to know for sure if she liked him was by talking to her online. If this were ordinary shyness I'd cut him some slack, but I really don't think it is. It's him finding the deep meaning in his sad breakup songs by Jimmy Eat World and Dashboard Confessional and writing these plaintive love songs, longing for the right person to come his way, while never actually getting off his *** and meeting people.

My basic frustration is that he seems like he would rather wallow in the so-called gloriousness of his pain rather than actually do something to cure it. Part of this frustration is because I'm the opposite: I got tired of being depressed and made an effort to be as gregarious and friendly as possible in order to make friends and cure my own depression. I can't blame him for being different from me. It just makes me nervous that he'll be crushed permanently if this relationship he's going for doesn't work out, and I don't think it will. This girl is too weird and socially awkward for him to get the fulfillment he's looking for. And since I want him to do well, the horribly incurably pessimistic way he is and views the world with is very frustrating.

/end of rant. I can't blame him for a lot of this stuff, so really I need to just deal with it. It's just that I think he's doing the wrong things to get to the relationship of his dreams, by making a bid for sympathetic likability rather than actually trying to be likable. He treats the "victim" persona as an excuse, a stand-in for any sort of real personality. The grief he feels is real, but the way he uses it as a shield is out of line with his goals. Girls recognize this and they respond to it by losing interest, thus contributing to continued emoness on his part, and the cycle continues...It's just frustrating.

Cain 03-16-2005 05:20 PM

/kills thread :upset:

Bartender 03-16-2005 05:21 PM

We might just all be slow readers :)

superpeer 03-16-2005 05:23 PM

That's a very typical thing for young people to do, he'll get over it.

Cain 03-16-2005 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=Superpeer]That's a very typical thing for young people to do, he'll get over it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I hope so.

ATM 03-16-2005 05:29 PM

Sup.

i am the robots 03-16-2005 05:49 PM

Hey all, on topic, I'm a young person, and I read at a college level or whatever, I was reading at the 12th grade level in the 7th grade.

DonMancini 03-16-2005 05:55 PM

Anyone like Ratatat?

Bartender 03-16-2005 05:59 PM

^Don't think I know it/them :-/

Anyway, second essay finished, so I'm off to bed. See you all later.

i am the robots 03-16-2005 05:59 PM

[QUOTE=DonMancini]Anyone like Ratatat?[/QUOTE]

bah

i am the robots 03-16-2005 06:00 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]^Don't think I know it/them :-/

Anyway, second essay finished, so I'm off to bed. See you all later.[/QUOTE]

see you later Moddy McRulemaker.

I have to revise my English essay tonight, I've typed 6 projects up in the past 2 weeks, my grades are skyrocketing!


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