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adb 04-27-2011 12:43 AM

case study on the marketing of lipitor

illmitch 04-27-2011 12:45 AM

sounds pretty dumb

have to read an article about the ovids heroides 7 and how ovid parodies and imitates virgils aeneid and various poems by catullus and then summarize it to one page its dumb as fuck

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 12:59 AM

how long is the article?

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:02 AM

just 17 pages which is shorter than the other article i had to read for the class

its dumb as hell though, arguing that because ovid uses one single word, he's making reference to the use of that single word in another poet's body of work, and that this single word and the implications of the other poet's usage of it alter the meaning of the entire (almost 200 line) poem

basically it's reminding me why i hate academia

adb 04-27-2011 01:05 AM

lol reading

my article is like 4 pages

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:05 AM

And you guys thought I was pretentious

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:06 AM

i really like latin and greek, but hate classics academia for the most part, unless it's linguistic in nature

literary criticism in general is for the birds

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:07 AM

bitchfork you [i]are[/i] pretentious

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:08 AM

I get a free week off basically since I'm in all Soph/Junior classes and Juniors have ACTS tomorrow and Thursday. No school on Monday, school today was me skipping and I probably won't go on Friday because I have plans with a guy and since the school I go to doesn't notify your parents if you're absent (unless you're there for like 1 period and then you leave), I'm probably just going to spend the day at his house.

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:09 AM

[QUOTE=illmitch;18494128]bitchfork you [i]are[/i] pretentious[/QUOTE]

:o:o:o

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:12 AM

the writer has a lot of points that are questionable/straight up wrong tbh

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:14 AM

elaborate

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:14 AM

oh and while you're here illmitch how do you say feedback in arabic?

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:16 AM

and silence too.

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:16 AM

kinda hard to explain, but basically

the heroides are a series of poems written by classical heroines who were abandoned by their men

the one this article is analyzing is written by dido to aeneas, about whom the aeneid was written, so the writer is comparing the poem to the aeneid

he makes a reference to a line where in the text dido says "where will you have a wife who will love you like this?" and says it's evidence of dido "refer[ring]...to aeneas' future marriage with lavinia, of which dido can have no knowledge, but readers of the aeneid know very well"

i guess maybe he's correct, but it seems like dido is actually saying that aeneas WON'T have a wife in the future, which completely destroys the writer's argument

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:19 AM

I'm kind of siding with the author on this one because even though it's pessimistic in technical terms, the character seems to be hinting at the fact that he will find a wife somewhere in the future; the writer simply seemed to be trying to put in some irony, some foreshadowing and other shit like that.

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:19 AM

do you mean feedback as in commentary/response or as in electronic

silence is sukuut or samt

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:22 AM

electronic
kk thanks
:x:X:X

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:22 AM

"Barchiesi has remarked upon the close parallels between [the first person singular verb uror] and Vergil's description of Dido at 4.68, uritur [third person singular]. He notes that the shift from the third to the first person figures the shift in genres from epic to elegiac epistle."

I FUCKING HATE ACADEMIA

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:23 AM

cant find a word for electronic feedback, i dont have a technical dictionary or anything

Bulldog 04-27-2011 01:25 AM

just woke up. sup guys?

aria 04-27-2011 01:26 AM

same here slept mad good last nite

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:27 AM

ok. instead of feedback i'll just keep it all as [I]Русалка[/I] [Mermaid-Russian] and then Sukuut since it sounds cooler.


I actually find minute reading details like that really stupidly interesting. :\

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:30 AM

i think it's interesting, but i don't think a difference between verbal person indicates an overt reference to the different dynamics between two literary genres

MAYBE you could say that epic poetry tends to be told from the third person and elegiac poetry from the first poetry, but you have a tenuous argument; ovid is probably using the first person because he is speaking from the perspective of a character, not because he's trying to make some dramatic point

Bulldog 04-27-2011 01:30 AM

austin get on msn.

aria what country do you live in?

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:31 AM

Do you guys know when you sort of drift off into the same few daydreams over and over again? Because for the past few weeks I've been dreaming about someone by a fountain playing me the violin and I feel like I have to paint it but I only have watercolors and not oil or acrylic paints it makes me so angry.

[I]Substantial Issues ITT[/I]

Bulldog 04-27-2011 01:33 AM

girl or boy playing the violin?

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:35 AM

[QUOTE=illmitch;18494151]i think it's interesting, but i don't think a difference between verbal person indicates an overt reference to the different dynamics between two literary genres

MAYBE you could say that epic poetry tends to be told from the third person and elegiac poetry from the first poetry, but you have a tenuous argument; ovid is probably using the first person because he is speaking from the perspective of a character, not because he's trying to make some dramatic point[/QUOTE]

I haven't read the story but if it is related to anything substantial to differentiate the ideas, the change in perspective was probably some obscure detail that the author used to epsecially remember the main jist of the elegiac section. It's a nice little detail to think of but I agree that writing anymore than perhaps a footnote on it (unless it helps illustrate that all of these details work together to create some unified whole that is significant to the story's importance) is a bit extreme.

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:37 AM

both verbs aren't used in the same poem

ovid uses the verb "uror" (which means "i burn"), and vergil uses the verg "uritur" (which means "he/she burns")

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:39 AM

[QUOTE=Bulldog;18494154]girl or boy playing the violin?[/QUOTE]

Some brown-haired guy with his neck craned to the left so I can't see his face, but I can tell he's white and he's in either a red and white sweatshirt or a brownberry-type color sweater because it's night time whenever this happens.

tg;dr

Bulldog 04-27-2011 01:40 AM

lold at "tg;dr"

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:41 AM

[QUOTE=illmitch;18494156]both verbs aren't used in the same poem

ovid uses the verb "uror" (which means "i burn"), and [B]vergil[/B] uses the [B]verg[/B] "uritur" (which means "he/she burns")[/QUOTE]

[B]i lul'd[/B]
ok well i'm not busy writing the article so I'm probably not paying attention enough to base a solid opinion I'll just assume you're right and shit.

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:42 AM

haha its all good, im just venting at how much i hate this article

Bulldog 04-27-2011 01:42 AM

probably gonna write my 2 week late history essay right now.

adb 04-27-2011 01:45 AM

cant stop eatin cheez its

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:45 AM

so you're gonna waste your time?

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:45 AM

fuck, the author is making a reference to homers iliad

gonna have to bring out my greek dictionary

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:47 AM

i have a copy of that about four feet below me.

illmitch 04-27-2011 01:47 AM

which translation

Bitchfork 04-27-2011 01:50 AM

It's the Fagles version. I have the Lattimore in my room since my grandmother has like 80copies of every book she gets.


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