[QUOTE=Explosivo]
Responsibility has nothing to do with it. I consider myself an extremely responsible person and I still do a wide variety of drugs.[/QUOTE]
As I recall you went driving drunk the other day.

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution]As I recall you went driving drunk the other day.[/QUOTE]

As I recall, there's a saying that goes, "there's a first time for everything." Unlike people who sit in their room all day and say, "I'm not doing this because I think it's pointless", I put myself on the line and try everything once - twice if I like it - so I can say, "Hey, I took a chance and did that." Then I can actually make an informed opinion on the matter, unlike other people who form their opinions on the heresay of others.

[QUOTE=Explosivo]As I recall, there's a saying that goes, "there's a first time for everything." Unlike people who sit in their room all day and say, "I'm not doing this because I think it's pointless", I put myself on the line and try everything once - twice if I like it - so I can say, "Hey, I took a chance and did that." Then I can actually make an informed opinion on the matter, unlike other people who form their opinions on the heresay of others.[/QUOTE]
Alright, so by that logic, no one can condemn murder unless they've tried it first. Or theft. Or basically anything. Maybe shooting heroin isn't so bad, I've never tried it so how would I know, right? Personally, I don't feel the need to try something to feel like I have the right to say something against it. Where I come from that's borderline hypocrisy. But then, you're right. I'm sure it's just heresay that driving drunk is dangerous. There's no actual evidence to back that up.

You can euphemize it to make yourself a hero in your own mind, but doing so is all the more pitiable in mine. Yeah man, you really put yourself on the line to experiment with your body. I idolize you. I wish I tried everything before forming any sort of opinion because my experience is more important than facts and statistics.

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution]Alright, so by that logic, no one can condemn murder unless they've tried it first. Or theft. Or basically anything. Maybe shooting heroin isn't so bad, I've never tried it so how would I know, right? Personally, I don't feel the need to try something to feel like I have the right to say something against it. Where I come from that's borderline hypocrisy. But then, you're right. I'm sure it's just heresay that driving drunk is dangerous. There's no actual evidence to back that up.

You can euphemize it to make yourself a hero in your own mind, but doing so is all the more pitiable in mine. Yeah man, you really put yourself on the line to experiment with your body. I idolize you. I wish I tried everything before forming any sort of opinion because my experience is more important than facts and statistics.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, lets form all our opinions on statistics that are conjured up from a census that doesn't actually contain even half of the actual population of the country. Statistics are worthless IMO.

Also, I'm not sure where you derive your definition of the term 'hypocrisy', but I fail to see how it's hypocritical to be able to say, "Yeah, I did morphine (as an example) and I can say it's definitely not something worth trying twice and I wouldn't recommend doing it once because these are the effects I experienced.." I consider than an informed, valuable opinion. If someone wants to still try said item anyway, that's their choice because like I said, there's a first time for everything. Everyone has a different experience.

Just because someone died from driving drunk, does that mean I'm going to? Maybe, maybe not. Most likely not, since I'm a careful driver anyway. Does that mean I [i]should have[/i] driven drunk? Of course not, but at least now I can say I know what it's like to perform that activity under those conditions. Driving under adverse conditions just makes you a better driver in the long run anyway. You achieve your best after performing at your worst.

Having been in the army, I've been around plenty of people that could be considered murderers. A lot of them, however, came away from their situations with a new sense of value towards the lives of others having taken lives themselves. Shooting heroin? No thanks, I'm squeamish around needles. However, I've taken chronic laced with heroin before so I have an idea of the effects. Also, I take a synthetic opiate called Methadone on occassion which has the same effects of heroin and speed anyway so I have an understanding and respect for the effects brought on by those narcotics. Knowing what I know from my experience helps me understand people that actually have problems with those substances to better deal with/help them later on.

I'm not euphemising anything, I'm stating facts. I know the effects first-hand, so I have an informed opinion. There's nothing hypocritical about that.

This is kind of pointless. People will do what they want to do, and that's that. I don't really dig it when other people are hurt because of it though.

[QUOTE=PDWAB]This is kind of pointless.[/QUOTE]

No, [i]you're[/i] kind of pointless. :evil:

/[url=http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Paperdoll85/277020124tFxpAV_ph.jpg]Pac-Man's you[/url]

So Hawthorne Height's new album has leaked, and I'm opting to give this band a second chance in case they pull a SOTY and actually release something good.

They won't. They're Hawthorne Heights. That name and the word 'good' don't belong in the same sentence.

OK, I'm on track 5 at the moment, and it isn't really that bad. I mean, there's less screaming now so they don't feel that generic in that area, but the guitar riffs still have that broody and dark "oh noes i need so slits my wrists" feel. It's better than their other album, I don't know if I would call it good yet though.

Meh, I won't waste any time/money on it.

I'm still stuck in a time warp and waiting for [b]Bush[/b] to get back together. :(

Kif I really want that ablum!!!!!

[Quote=Explosivo]I'm not euphemising anything, I'm stating facts. I know the effects first-hand, so I have an informed opinion. There's nothing hypocritical about that.[/Quote]

You are a dumb[I]a[/I]ss

[Quote=kif]OK, I'm on track 5 at the moment, and it isn't really that bad. I mean, there's less screaming now so they don't feel that generic in that area, but the guitar riffs still have that broody and dark "oh noes i need so slits my wrists" feel. It's better than their other album, I don't know if I would call it good yet though.[/Quote]

I think it's an all right album. Has any of ya'll listened to Fall Out Boy's new album. I liked it, kinda catchy.

[Quote=Explosivo]Meh, I won't waste any time/money on it.

I'm still stuck in a time warp and waiting for Bush to get back together. [/Quote]

I really don't like bush that much. Their last album, I thought, was crap.

blink is supposed to be getting back togather and putting togather a new cd. Thats going to be cool.

[QUOTE=Explosivo]As I recall, there's a saying that goes, "there's a first time for everything." Unlike people who sit in their room all day and say, "I'm not doing this because I think it's pointless", I put myself on the line and try everything once - twice if I like it - so I can say, "Hey, I took a chance and did that." Then I can actually make an informed opinion on the matter, unlike other people who form their opinions on the heresay of others.[/QUOTE]

Your a ****, a utter utter ****... i've got a freind who was almost killed by a drunk driver, in fact his whole faimly nearly died becuse a drunk driver plowed in to him while he was driveing his mum and sister to town. They where all lucky to come out of it alive. Your scum. I don't give a crap what some one dose, every one should be free to do what ever they like BUT only so long as that freedom dose not take away the freedom of others... You going drink driveing becuse you want to try anything ones could have lead to you killing one or more people, and wheres there chance to then try anything else one? or ever ****ing again?

You make me sick

[QUOTE=hotcod32]Your a ****, a utter utter ****... i've got a freind who was almost killed by a drunk driver, in fact his whole faimly nearly died becuse a drunk driver plowed in to him while he was driveing his mum and sister to town. They where all lucky to come out of it alive. Your scum. I don't give a crap what some one dose, every one should be free to do what ever they like BUT only so long as that freedom dose not take away the freedom of others... You going drink driveing becuse you want to try anything ones could have lead to you killing one or more people, and wheres there chance to then try anything else one? or ever ****ing again?

You make me sick[/QUOTE]

Your spelling and grammar makes me sick.

Holy crap, you continue to have some of the worst spelling I've ever seen hotcod. Jared, I really am not a fan of people driving drunk(I actually know of quite a few people who have been killed by drunk drivers or because they were riding with someone drunk.) I don't mind if you're just out to try things, but for your own sake and for the sake of others, I wouldn't advise you doing that anymore. And as far as this new Hawthorne Heights album goes, I'll see if I can get my hands on it, although my hopes for it are very, very low.

Edit: Actually I've searched as far as my very limited internet knowledge can take me and have failed to find it. Kif, can you point me in a direction of download or send it to me? If not I guess I'll just have to wait a bit and see if I can find it on SoulSeek. Man, you know I'm desperate for music when I'm trying to find a Hawthorne Heights album. That's bad.

Yo, im in I.T

Hey Dan, I'm so sorry but I can't compete today. I have a soccer practice at 5:00 eastern today that I forgot about. I'm really sorry man.

Er, ok.

It starts at 4:30 eastern time you know thoguh, takes about 20 mins ?

[QUOTE=Rancid Dan]Er, ok.

It starts at 4:30 eastern time you know thoguh, takes about 20 mins ?[/QUOTE]

I'm leaving for my cousins at 4, and I'll probably leave their house at 4:45, and I don't think they have AIM.

Ok, no problem.

Maybe Brian and Tim might be able to do it as they didn't yesterday.

I'm always open to doing it again Dan :D

again my spelling is becuse of my dyslixica and the post was not long enoght for me to feel it was really worth spell checking... *

[QUOTE=hotcod32]again my spelling is becuse of my dyslixica and the post was not long enoght for me to feel it was really worth spell checking... *[/QUOTE]
Im dyslexic *h5*

Its only mild though.

[QUOTE=Untitled]Im dyslexic *h5*

Its only mild though.[/QUOTE]

/Is also mildly dyslexic, mainly when I'm reading though.

I cant say words, i cant say big words very well, its makes it fun for a laugh though. I couldnt actully speek till i was 5 though.

Gay day, i got pounched in the jaw from an idiot Y12 and i got 16% and 19% in my Maths Mock Exams :lol:

Haha, dan you suck.

/Gets 2 B's in English.

BOTH were 1 mark off an A! :(

[quote=Agent Orange]You are a dumbass[/quote]

See, I was going to say something insulting in return because of this, but..

[quote=Agent Orange]I really don't like bush that much. Their last album, I thought, was crap.

blink is supposed to be getting back togather and putting togather a new cd. Thats going to be cool.[/quote]

You owned yourself by trying to imply that Blink 182 is a better band than Bush. The talent o' meter disagrees dramatically.

[quote=hotcod32]Your a ****, a utter utter ****... i've got a freind who was almost killed by a drunk driver, in fact his whole faimly nearly died becuse a drunk driver plowed in to him while he was driveing his mum and sister to town. They where all lucky to come out of it alive. Your scum. I don't give a crap what some one dose, every one should be free to do what ever they like BUT only so long as that freedom dose not take away the freedom of others... You going drink driveing becuse you want to try anything ones could have lead to you killing one or more people, and wheres there chance to then try anything else one? or ever ****ing again?

You make me sick[/quote]

Go slap your chest and drool on yourself - I can't read half of what you just said.

However, I will say this - you said:

[quote]every one should be free to do what ever they like BUT only so long as that freedom dose not take away the freedom of others[/quote]

Did I take away anyone else's freedoms? No? Oh, ok. So shut the f[size=2]uck[/size] up and go get some kind of therapy for that stunningly obvious disability.

[quote=hotcod32]my dyslixica[/quote]

Man I'm good. I can spot 'em a mile away.

[quote=Puma]I wouldn't advise you doing that anymore.[/quote]

I didn't plan on it. Apparently when you do something once it becomes a chronic issue necessary of immediate treatment and/or retribution. At least that's what a lot of these little 14-year old kids seem to think. Well, Vince isn't 14, but he acts like it sometimes with his holier-than-thou judgemental bs.

[QUOTE=Untitled]Haha, dan you suck.[/QUOTE]

lmao tell me about it.

One girl on 1.6% LOL

:wave:

I'm new here, but I listen to some pop punk, so I might as well post here. :p

:thumb:

-Gav

[QUOTE=Rancid Dan]lmao tell me about it.

One girl on 1.6% LOL[/QUOTE]
Hahaha, 1.6, she got mocked, thats pityfull that mark.

:wave:

Welcome to Pop-Punk Gav.

Hey, ive seen you around are you a new mod ?

[QUOTE=Rancid Dan]Hey, ive seen you around are you a new mod ?[/QUOTE]

I've been a mod for about...two months now, maybe? I dunno. Usually I stick to the bass forum, since I know all the users in there, but I occasionally post in The Pit or the hardcore/emo forum (I listen to screamo), but since I listen to a few pop-punk bands (Taking Back Sunday, Scary Kids Scaring Kids, The Descendants, etc.), I figure, why not post in the pop punk forum?

I hear you guys are almost as nice as we are in the bass forum, too. ;)

:thumb:

-Gav

[QUOTE=Untitled]Hahaha, 1.6, she got mocked, thats pityfull that mark.[/QUOTE]
Lolz mocked on a maths Mock paper.

pwn3d.

Mod in the Bass forum, in which I'm a hXc lurker.

EDIT: To Dan

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]I've been a mod for about...two months now, maybe? I dunno. Usually I stick to the bass forum, since I know all the users in there, but I occasionally post in The Pit or the hardcore/emo forum (I listen to screamo), but since I listen to a few pop-punk bands (Taking Back Sunday, Scary Kids Scaring Kids, The Descendants, etc.), I figure, why not post in the pop punk forum?

I hear you guys are almost as nice as we are in the bass forum, too. ;)

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]

Yeah, we're the best forum on here.

Best users, especailly me.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]:wave:

I'm new here, but I listen to some pop punk, so I might as well post here. :p

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]
:eek:

Gav's here, you reminded me that i havnt posted in the bass forum in forever. Oh well.

^ Looks like it. :lol:

So yeah...here I am, listening to After School Knife Fight.

Like I said, I listen to screamo. :D

I got a bone to pick with your definition of screamo, too. Alexisonfire is NOT screamo. :lol:

But I really don't care...genre nazis annoy me, of which there are a lot in the hardcore/emo forum...

:thumb:

-Gav