I have no idea what that is.
Hows it like?

Its pretty much identical to firefox. All my firefox extensions etc are still there.

Seems slimmed down and faster though.

Fair does.

I wish my hi hats were darker and more mellow.

Opinions on burying them in the ground or somehow getting them caked in dirt?

All the firefox files i found were corrupt so i went into the mirror sites and accidentally installed Bon Echo. Turns out its a different build version or something, yet fully compatible with firefox.

Hmm.
Sounds interesting, but not enough as to make me try it out.

S'pretty spanky. Using version 2.0.0.12 of the Firefox engine.

i get to deal with the last IE at work....

[QUOTE=Mr Pink;16012202]When I was in college there were NO computers, iPods, DVDs, CDs, internet, and no AIDS. We marveled at the burning ball of gas in the sky that warmed us but went away each day when we or someone made it mad, all our cars had V8s and a minimum of 300 hp, there were no cell phones, the Soviet Union was still a bad assed mofo, disco and polyester was in, and Rogers, Slingerland and Ludwig were all around, making all their drums in the USA.[/QUOTE]

too be honest, that actually sounds better than right now.

Minus polyester and disco. Maybe another 5 years earlier, and that'd be cool.

[quote=Kainen;16012490]i get to deal with the last IE at work....[/quote]

I had to deal with it to get hold of Bon Echo. It reminded me of why i hate it.

I agree with that actually froggy lol

[QUOTE=Janeway;16011348]In the foreword to both of my bibles, it states that it is the word of God. The authentic, inerrant, holy-a[B]s[/B]s word of the one and only God.

I don't get how religious moderates can interpret the Bible loosely, when it states so explicitly that it is the word of God, and all dissenters shall deal with the wrath of God. Not only does it do this once, it does it hundreds of times, over and over and over again in both the old and new testaments.[/quote]
this is my belief, so your mileage may vary. But as I understand it, "God" gave us the ability to understand symbols, metaphors, and other literary devices. It makes sense to me that incorporating those deeper thought processes in His word would be a natural step.

[quote]It f[B]u[/B]cking urges you to take it literally.[/quote]. Again, if you took something like [i]Fahrenheit 451[/i] straight up literally, you'd miss a lot of the points Bradbury had to make. [quote]God doesn't say, "Hey, you know, I created you guys to evolve, and I know that in a few more hundred years you guys'll learn that illness isn't caused by demons, that the earth revolves around the sun, and a whole plethora of other life-changing, immensely important things, and it's cool and stuff if you want to just interpret my book to suit your evolving self, as long as you still tote it around."[/quote]
what are you trying to say?

[quote]At least the extremists are devoted to their delusions. Moderates just contort it to try and make it fit with modernity, rather than just accepting the absolute improbability of an all-powerful wizard who sh[B]i[/B]t the universe out in seven days.[/quote]

[quote]Morals don't need to be derived from a book. It's dangerous to derive morals from any book because you're abandoning logical thought for something totally irrational, written thousands of years ago by people who had even less of a clue than we do.[/quote]
Say i have a list of moral values. They're written in a book. Now ignore them for a while. Use your "rational, logical thought" to create your own morals. Could some of your morals that you thought up on your rational, logical self also be the same as were written in the book?
Similarly, can someone logically observe the list, rationally say "yeah those are good" and then accept the behaviours into one's life?
Claiming that everyone who accepts the bible's morals to be irrational and illogical is sheer ignorance on your part.

[quote]Some of the most immoral people are the most pious sons of b[B]i[/B]tches you'll ever see.[/QUOTE]
how can you define immoral? do you mean "immoral" as in against what the bible says? in your last paragraph, you said following the bible's morals is illogical and irrational, but now you claim to accept them as your own and use them to judge "immoral" people? i'm confused.

Nevertheless, some of the most "immoral" people simply have a different set of morals. "immoral" to you can be "moral" to another, similar to how one culture's traditions may be taboo in another culture.





please, it's not hard to make a legitimate complaint against organized religion. but generalizations and hypocrisy isn't the way to go about it.

so there's like nobody donating to our silent auction. :(

my email is the main contact email, and i've had one person contact me. today i opened up my inbox to find 3 new emails, thought to myself "ooh, atleast one of those will be a donation", and then found they were all from the parent council person. lame.

[QUOTE=Chippy569;16012504]please, it's not hard to make a legitimate complaint against organized religion. but generalizations and hypocrisy isn't the way to go about it.[/QUOTE]

That seems to be the argument everytime someone makes a legitimate complaint.

I respect your beliefs Chippy, but I just have one question. I've always believed that most religious people practice their religion because they a) want comfort for their problems in everyday life, and b) want to know where they're going after death. Now I'm curious why you couldn't solve a) with one's own intellectual thought, and advice from other, possibly wiser people.

I have no problem with religion I just don't buy it personally.

Jebus is my homeslice yo.

You dig it dawg?

Haha, I used to be Catholic because that's what I was trained to be by my parents.
Now that I'm in college, I still believe the general big picture, but the details irk me.
Specific religion is pretty messed up, but if you take the very basic beliefs of most religions, it doesn't sound too bad.
Y'know.
Don't kill people, don't steal ****, don't be a douchebag.
I think it's a pretty good way to live.

Has anybody here bought anything from Musician's Friend before?

I'm thinking of getting a headphone amp w/ 4 headphone combo. Granted the headphones are probably really cheap (the combo is $50 more than the headphone amp by itself), and I need it by late next week.

EDIT: You don't have to be religious to have those non-killing, non-stealing morals.

[QUOTE=Janeway;16011395]Yes, but at least they might lead someone who isn't an extremist nut case to at least question their faith. Even if those quotes are "taken out of context," it would still lead someone to at least think about it, which is an improvement on blindly following.[/QUOTE]
btw, i wasn't going to reply, but the topic's been brought back up.

watch this:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKG3iC8MeGs[/url]

if you don't reconsider the world around you after watching, you are an extremist nut case.

:confused:

I dunno, theres some people who should really be killed.

[quote=Sunshine;16012555]Haha, I used to be Catholic because that's what I was trained to be by my parents.
Now that I'm in college, I still believe the general big picture, but the details irk me.
Specific religion is pretty messed up, but if you take the very basic beliefs of most religions, it doesn't sound too bad.
Y'know.
Don't kill people, don't steal ****, don't be a douchebag.
I think it's a pretty good way to live.[/quote]
Yeah I agree up to that point. I just don't think those sort of principles need to be reinforced by religion: One can be a moral person without being religious.

[quote=Sunshine;16012555]if you take the very basic beliefs of most religions, it doesn't sound too bad.
Y'know.
Don't kill people, don't steal ****, don't be a douchebag.[/quote]

It's funny....as you say, most religions do teach one generally not to be a douchebag, yet most followers are douchbags. Kinda silly really.

Religion seems to be a belief system that makes otherwise sensible people ignore logic and common sense.

Don't generalize dammit!

[quote]Has anybody here bought anything from Musician's Friend before?

I'm thinking of getting a headphone amp w/ 4 headphone combo. Granted the headphones are probably really cheap (the combo is $50 more than the headphone amp by itself), and I need it by late next week.[/quote]

You cant individualise everyone in a huge group. Thats just stupid.

Generalisation is the only way to do it.

[quote=Seafroggys;16012556]Has anybody here bought anything from Musician's Friend before?
[/quote]

only about 8-9 different times. i've received everything as promised in 3 business days each time i ordered. they have some of the best prices online for most products and are reliable. i've never had a problem with them at all.

i have. worked fine for me.

i've also ordered from massmusic - just as reliable, generally better prices most times.

I never said you HAD to have religion to teach those "morals."
But it still does.
Which is kinda nice.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny;16012674]i have. worked fine for me.

i've also ordered from massmusic - just as reliable, generally better prices most times.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I got a Paiste 2002 crash from Massmusic a year and a half ago.

But I don't think Massmusic has this combo package I'm looking for. We'll see.

[quote=Sunshine;16012681]I never said you HAD to have religion to teach those "morals."
But it still does.
Which is kinda nice.[/quote]
I suppose, but one can do that without religion, and avoid the more negative aspects.

Like buttsecks with choir boys.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;16012749]Like buttsecks with choir boys.[/QUOTE]
omg u shud b a cmdian

In using an iphone lmao

lol hai berk

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHO8l-Bd1O4[/url]

oh yeah....this is funny

iphones are lame.

my phone can do this: calls, text messages, calendar, calculator.

i pwn, rite?

my Cell and my ipod do the trick for me

soup

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny;16013295]my Cell and my ipod do the trick for me[/QUOTE]
yeah my cell phone and mp3 player sit side by side in my pocket and cost me like 1/10th of what it would cost me to buy an iphone.

well technically they cost me nothing. cell phone was free with a plan and i got my mp3 player for christmas 2 years ago.

Tim Hortons soup :thumb: