[QUOTE=Joe]It's necessary. If someone isn't demanding nothing will ever get done. You'll all be sitting there in a circle asking each other "So what do you want to do?"[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but I'm a lead guitarist and a composition writer and so I run more risks than most of sounding like an egotistical jerk-off. This probably means I'd want everyone in my band to be excellent at their instrument. We wouldn't be virtuosing everyone's butts, but I need players who have the ability to play anything I bring to the table, and who would have a wide variety of options musically in bringing their own material to the table. And if they were going to play different stuff than what I wrote, they should jam on it: I'd hate it if they kept asking "does this sound good?"

I'd love to do some covers, but my band only writes similar music, we don't listen to it.

NP: Avenged Sevenfold - Chapter Four

[QUOTE]Yeah, but I'm a lead guitarist and a composition writer and so I run more risks than most of sounding like an egotistical jerk-off. This probably means I'd want everyone in my band to be excellent at their instrument. We wouldn't be virtuosing everyone's butts, but I need players who have the ability to play anything I bring to the table, and who would have a wide variety of options musically in bringing their own material to the table. And if they were going to play different stuff than what I wrote, they should jam on it: I'd hate it if they kept asking "does this sound good?"[/QUOTE]

Well as a lead (and I learned this too) if you're going to be in control off stage you can't have it on too. I've written songs with long solos and a ton of short ones and such and they got pissed. Tell them if it sounds good I guess, after they jam to it. You shuold be able to play a riff or something you wrote, teach it to the other guitarist, and let the bassist and drummer jam to it.

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Given that I write only the lyrics in songs, and Can't play other instruments, bar my minimal drum skills, I have to rely on my band to write stuff, and that's not getting anywhere.

They don't want responsibility, and it sucks, I'm not playing covers all my life.

They say it's "your band" and any important decisions should be made by me,
NP-manic street preachers- I'm not working.[/QUOTE]

Keep that band and don't let go!! I would commit several federal crimes for a group of musicians like that.

[quote=Cain][B]Yeah, but I'm a lead guitarist and a composition writer and so I run more risks than most of sounding like an egotistical jerk-off. [/B]This probably means I'd want everyone in my band to be excellent at their instrument. We wouldn't be virtuosing everyone's butts, but I need players who have the ability to play anything I bring to the table, and who would have a wide variety of options musically in bringing their own material to the table. And if they were going to play different stuff than what I wrote, they should jam on it: I'd hate it if they kept asking "does this sound good?"[/quote]

Haha, I know, I'm afraid of that too.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Because that's obviously the best thing to judge a band's music by :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

The horrible lyrics, vocals and guitar work put me off to.

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Given that I write only the lyrics in songs, and Can't play other instruments, bar my minimal drum skills, I have to rely on my band to write stuff, and that's not getting anywhere.

They don't want responsibility, and it sucks, I'm not playing covers all my life.

They say it's "your band" and any important decisions should be made by me,
NP-manic street preachers- I'm not working.[/QUOTE]

I believe that you've found the band right for you when they can match music to lyrics. Also, if they're proficient at their instruments, you should be able to tell them what you *kind of* want the song to sound like, or just the overall mood, and they should be able to cook something up for you.

I'm obviously not quite *proficient* at my instrument. My songwriting skills are somewhat poor, although I can follow a guitarist and keep the drummer in time. Ah, the duty of the bassist.

[QUOTE=the2stranger]Jpey is a decent nu-metal drumme,r doesn't stand a chance compared to some death/black metal drummers though[/QUOTE]

He (apparently) held his own as Satyricon's drummer on that tour, didn't he?

[QUOTE=Joe]
Well as a lead (and I learned this too) if you're going to be in control off stage you can't have it on too. I've written songs with long solos and a ton of short ones and such and they got pissed. Tell them if it sounds good I guess, after they jam to it. You shuold be able to play a riff or something you wrote, teach it to the other guitarist, and let the bassist and drummer jam to it.[/QUOTE]

Well, ideally, I'd love to play with a second lead guitarist. No way am I dividing up who gets glory: as far as I'm concerned, everybody should have something cool to play.

But when I write stuff, I want them to play it. That's just my single-mindedness, but when I write I have a vision of what I want.

Oh, for the days when one could compose whatever the hell I wanted and make musicians play it, and I would be the one getting all the glory while NONE of the musicians did. Oh to live the life of a Mozart or a Beethoven...a composer. *sigh*

Everybody working in a rock vein needs to be part of a team now. :mad: Why can't there be any metal composers, or rock composers?

Well I'd like to share the credit in a band because they're all writing it too. If it was just going to be me I'd be a solo artist or something like the John Mayer Trio (except he's so much better of a guitarist...).

I'd like having a hit band. I do leads, but it's depressing to me when I want to harmonize with my other guitarist and he can't do it. I taught him a four note harmony for a song I wrote and he could barely handle it. It's weird, he's a great guitarist but he couldn't do it...

[QUOTE=Cain]Everybody working in a rock vein needs to be part of a team now. :mad: Why can't there be any metal composers, or rock composers?[/QUOTE]
How about Ry Cooder?

NP Pulp - Something Changed

That's a good example

NP: Tribute - Tenacious D :lol:

Pssh i'm in charge of my band. I write everything, and i get us all together and tell people of when they've done it bad. I put 110% into all our gigs and i generally make things happen musically. Our drummer keeps us practicing and recording, and gets us our gigs. The other guitarist (My cousin) gets drunk and has fun, and our bassist is just kinda there. Solid bassist though.

But, i wouldn't let any of them come anywhere near the base song writing. They'd cack it up probably. We have gigs coming out of our ears because of my writing, and i don't want them mucking it up.

Anyway, self worship over.

as a bassist i whore myself around too 2-4 bands (right now 3). One is strictly metal, the other is this wierd funk-fusion metal band that is a hell of a lot of fun, and that last one is basically just me and some friends playing some covers just to play.

I find that that is the best way to get better, just do what i do and prostitute yourself off to any band that is gigin.

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]I believe that you've found the band right for you when they can match music to lyrics. Also, if they're proficient at their instruments, you should be able to tell them what you *kind of* want the song to sound like, or just the overall mood, and they should be able to cook something up for you.

I'm obviously not quite *proficient* at my instrument. My songwriting skills are somewhat poor, although I can follow a guitarist and keep the drummer in time. Ah, the duty of the bassist.[/QUOTE]
The "that's not getting anywhere" part hinted at the not coming up with riffs and stuff problems that the guitarist has.
Oh for a Lead player and a Keyboardist.

NP-Dream theater- overture 1928 (scene 2)
I'm going to bed now I have carded it up.

My band involves me, a bassist, and Fruity Loops. We have yet to finish our second song, in works since...uh...October, I guess. :lol:

A guitarist in my theory class/school jazz band wants to get together with me and a few people to jam though...he's quite good. May turn out well.

Oh, I'm also an amatuer techno artist, now that I can use Garageband. :)

Anyone here have mayhem's dawn of the black hearts?

[QUOTE=Deconstruction]Anyone here have mayhem's dawn of the black hearts?[/QUOTE]

Anything with Dead on vocals sucks, he sounds like a dying troll.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]My band involves me, a bassist, and Fruity Loops. We have yet to finish our second song, in works since...uh...October, I guess. :lol:

A guitarist in my theory class/school jazz band wants to get together with me and a few people to jam though...he's quite good. May turn out well.

Oh, I'm also an amatuer techno artist, now that I can use Garageband. :)[/QUOTE]

I heard one of the Garageband synth loops in a p[size=2]o[/size]rn soundtrack the other day. I was shocked. It made that bright shiny Apple logo on my silver Powerbook a little muddier.

They sell soundtracks? :eek:

Eh, if you all are interested, the website is [URL="http://www.soundclick.com/splinteredfrailites"]http://www.soundclick.com/splinteredfrailites[/URL].

I realized i spelled the name wrong. :mad:

[QUOTE=Cain]I heard one of the Garageband synth loops in a p[size=2]o[/size]rn soundtrack the other day. I was shocked. It made that bright shiny Apple logo on my silver Powerbook a little muddier.[/QUOTE]

Some porno companies use the same type of camera (though a slightly higher-end model) to film their movies. Doesn't change the fact that I like my camera.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]They sell soundtracks? :eek: [/QUOTE]

Um...no. I was watching it.

:upset:

[QUOTE=Cain]Um...no. I was watching it.

:upset:[/QUOTE]
:lol:

It wasn't the old school stuff, was it? :eek:

Ain't nothing wrong with watching some porno. :chug:

[QUOTE=Cain]Um...no. I was watching it.

:upset:[/QUOTE]

Like any straight, red-blooded male. Porn is a time-honored tradition of our half of the species, man.

EDIT: F[size=2]u[/size]cking swear filter.

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]The "that's not getting anywhere" part hinted at the not coming up with riffs and stuff problems that the guitarist has.
Oh for a Lead player and a Keyboardist.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't talking to you in general, Mr. Abortion, but to anyone.

I heard once that Iron Maiden's Steve Harris (bass, for all you newbs ou there) can simply whistle a tune and his two guitarists will play it exactly. Amazing stuff...now THAT is a band.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]:lol:

It wasn't the old school stuff, was it? :eek: [/QUOTE]

Nope. :)

Clearly some composer was lazy when he got hired.

The days where you could earn a living shredding like a two-bit Satriani clone over hardcore p[size=2]orno[/size] films are over, which sadly means I'll have to actually form a successful band to get any kind of money. :(

[QUOTE]EDIT: ****ing swear filter.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, when you say one of the words that gets physically changed by the filter it's twice as much pwnage.

[QUOTE=Cain]The days where you could earn a living shredding like a two-bit Satriani clone over hardcore p[size=2]orno[/size] films are over, which sadly means I'll have to actually form a successful band to get any kind of money. :([/QUOTE]

You've been watching El Mariachi, haven't you?

[QUOTE=Steerpike]You've been watching El Mariachi, haven't you?[/QUOTE]

ARRIBA!

EDIT: Doesn't this whole conversation count as spam?

Things I downloaded today:

Agalloch - The Mantle
Immortal - Battles in the North
Amon Amarth - Fate of Norns
Amon Amarth - Once Sent From the Golden Hall
Finntroll - Visor om Slutet
Finntroll - Jatkens Tid
Finntroll - Nattfodd

[QUOTE=magicbus]Things I downloaded today:

Agalloch - The Mantle
Immortal - Battles in the North
Amon Amarth - Fate of Norns
Amon Amarth - Once Sent From the Golden Hall
Finntroll - Visor om Slutet
Finntroll - Jatkens Tid
Finntroll - Nattfodd[/QUOTE]
Any urge to kill some Christians?

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Any urge to kill some Christians?[/QUOTE]

It's getting there.

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Any urge to kill some Christians?[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes:

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:naughty:

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:thumb: Thanks for the idea!