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purple_hazer 03-21-2010 06:37 PM

nah just two

Sad But True 03-21-2010 06:40 PM

Hmm, should be ok, depends what you're running. I run Cubase/Fruityloops/Audition (not necessarily at the same time, but sometimes I do) on one of these

[url]http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLAPB[/url]

tbh I find RAM to be more important when running recording programs. I used to run 2gig with Vista and that worked well (but got cranky if you tried to use cubase with anything else) but now I'm on 4gig and it's all good.

Blue_Moon 03-21-2010 06:42 PM

vista rapes PT for me xp does a fine job here

ram is the business for daw's especially ones open at the same time, at least 2gb ram and a dual core whatever and u shud be ok

Sad But True 03-21-2010 06:49 PM

I was sorely tempted to go for W7 cause I could get the student upgrade fro like £40 but then I saw how much ram it took up :/

Left Face Down 03-21-2010 09:02 PM

... W7 needs the same amount of RAM as Vista. What are you smoking?

Sad But True 03-21-2010 10:30 PM

going from 32 bit to 64

AG 03-22-2010 04:16 AM

/is watching Women of Ninja Warrior.

Imma upgrade my PC before moving to W7.

The_Mop 03-22-2010 07:07 AM

Whoa, hold on a sec, 800 MHz? What processor are you running that has two cores and is 800Mhz? Is it some proper friggin' old dual socket mobo?

I don't think that'll manage to keep up with runnign big VSTs but recording audio you'll probably be able to get away with...

Also, I really don't like how W7 organises windows in the taskbar. I know you can mess with it but IIRC you can't get it back to exactly the same way it organises before. There seems to be some right design problems with windows as of late, has anyone noticed on Vista/W7/Hotmail that loads of hyperlinks/buttons are just plain text on the start menu? THat seems to be taking a step back from the whole idea of a GUI :P

Really tempted to try Ubuntu at some point.

Also, SBT, note that a lot of VSTs don't like running 64 bit....

Left Face Down 03-22-2010 11:56 AM

[QUOTE=Sad But True;17875926]I've literally just put a PAF pro in the bridge of my LP, lets see if I actually managed to do it properly.
[/QUOTE]

Any opinions?

I played my RG1570 for a couple of hours yesterday. It has a PAF in the neck. I'm not sure how the PAF Pro compares to the PAF, but it does have a more lively sound to it.

Looking bleak for my Super Distortion. Though I don't know if I want to spend some of the money I have on the PAF Pro (like $75 after tax) if I really want to try to get the Mesa/Boogie Express 5:25 amp.

jaklyons 03-22-2010 01:04 PM

[IMG]http://ru.fishki.net/picsw/032010/22/bonus/gitari/004.jpg[/IMG]

Sad But True 03-22-2010 02:04 PM

Zeke: I had noticed this, and despite Vista 64 bit being out for a fair while some big companies still do not have any 64 bit drivers; it's ridiculous. Anyway, there wer alot of reasons why I didn't go for the upgrade, the two mention and amongst others there was the fact that W7 doesn't seem to function any differently to Vista apart from it's very slightly simpler (read: idiot friendly).

LFD: I liked it playing through my POD last night, really articulate, but I'm going to withhold final judgement until I've tried it through my rig tomorrow at the studio, because that's where I found the 498T that was in the bridge position to be really lacking.

The_Mop 03-22-2010 04:13 PM

To be honest, 64 bit is one of the great failures of the home computer industry. Fact is - 64 bit processing has been around in workstations and **** since 1992. AMD first came out with their AMD64 cores yonks ago (early 2000s), and flopped massively because it was 'too far ahead' - there was even a 64 bit version of XP, it's just no-one friggin' knew about it. I can't believe it's getting on for ten years since then and 64 bit still hasn't made any progress.

This whole problem is almost mirrored with Vista - it wasn't really the fault of microsoft making a s[SIZE=2]hi[/SIZE]te OS that was incompatible with a bunch of crap, it was the industry's fault for refusing to make drivers that were compatible. The same goes for the 64 bit 'question' - except that less people care about it (because most people are idiots) and it's been stretched over a much longer period of time.

Oh and did you know that processors could be running at THz by this point, had the industry bothered to research MOSFET max frequency of oscillation properly? Yeah, the computer industry sucks.

Kuffuffled 03-22-2010 04:18 PM

Hasn't mac been 64 bit for awhile?

Left Face Down 03-22-2010 04:35 PM

Mop, what planet are you on? Every one who knows half a crap about computers knew there was a 64-bit XP. Yes, the majority of people that don't know/care about computers are idiots that will believe anything, but not every one. I mean most of these "Windows 7 was my idea" commercials are about things which have been around since XP or existed in other OS for a similar time period if not longer.


64-bit probably was a flop because it was before it's time. Companies have to produce things that are worth buying. Before Vista you really didn't need more than 2Gb of RAM. The main draw for most to 64-bit is can recognize 4Gb+ of RAM with out issues. That and around 2000 companies shifted from more power to heat/power efficiency. That is why you see all the dual, quad, etc. cores. It offers similar performance as a really powerful single core, gives off less heat and uses less power.


I don't even want to know how much heat a processor running at THz would give off. Hell, gamers and computer enthusiasts already have to go through what some might deem rather extravagant cooling solutions to keep the CPU cool. Not to mention how much it would cost. I mean I'm sure if you filled up the entirety of the CPU with the core you could get a lot of power, but it would eat power and generate heat like a mofo.

Sad But True 03-22-2010 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=Left Face Down;17879374]Mop, what planet are you on? Every one who knows half a crap about computers knew there was a 64-bit XP. Yes, the majority of people that don't know/care about computers are idiots that will believe anything, but not every one. I mean most of these "Windows 7 was my idea" commercials are about things which have been around since XP or existed in other OS for a similar time period if not longer.
[/QUOTE]

Wow, such sweeping generalisations. I take it that in your many years at university and in studying for your multiple degrees you failed to take "Not Being a Dick 101".


Also Lod: I'm probably going to get a free Mac G4 or something like that. Is this good?

The_Mop 03-22-2010 05:30 PM

Heat in THz processors - well, you're an EE student, Im sure you've studied a fair few MOSFETs in your time :P The potential for maximum frequency of oscillation is huge, it's just a matter of research.

About the 64 bit thing - well, like you said. XP pro 64 was way before it's time', which is exactly what I said about AMD64s. Thing is, the end result made it appear before it's time - the bad sales was due to a market that didn't want to move. As mentioned, 64 bit processing had been around since 1992 - mabye by the early 2000's it was way past it's due. Whatever the case, it's nearly 2 decades since then and it's time things move on. The same with multi-core optimisation, it's been slow to move on.

Don't think for a second that the 4gig limit on RAM wasn't a problem before recent years - even around 2004, when I built my first PC, people were complaining about the limits of 32 bit processing constantly... there were even articles in PC mags saying that computing technology was essentially reaching a plateau. The C2D pretty well addressed these problems with 64 bit and multi-core capabilties, so that's why you don't see any articles like that anymore. All that's required now is for the industry to wake the hell up.

Also, SBT - I dunno much about macs (mainly cuz I have absolutely no interest in them) but IIRC G4s are a bit older, I think they're from before Apple and Intel started doing business.

Also, SBT - *brit-5*

Kuffuffled 03-22-2010 05:34 PM

free = good

Sad But True 03-22-2010 05:35 PM

Yes, but it's free. FREE. All I need is a monitor of some sort for it and I have a Mac. It'll be good enough to run my recording programs off of right?


Also: We're f[size=2]u[/size]cking ace.


More also: Now playing:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhlQIcbG4zU[/url]

purple_hazer 03-22-2010 05:35 PM

damn duo core at 800 is a no go?

also something actually music related, i just finished up a 'prog' song. (i say prog because im actually experimenting with musical formulas instead of URZ URZ LALALA)

its in guitarpro format, but would anyone care to listen and discuss some music with me? could be here or on aim or something but let me know, im dyin to shoot the **** about this

EDIT: as i recall my video production class in highschool used G4s and it ran final cut pro with no problems til they replaced them with newer models

Sad But True 03-22-2010 05:40 PM

urkle I genuinely would love to chat **** dude but I'm hitting the sack so I don't fall asleep in the studio again while I'm supposed to be paying attention/tracking guitars :(

purple_hazer 03-22-2010 05:40 PM

for sure man, if i catch you on here earlier tomorrow we can discuss

Convectuoso 03-22-2010 05:42 PM

[quote=purple_hazer;17879434]damn duo core at 800 is a no go?

also something actually music related, i just finished up a 'prog' song. (i say prog because im actually experimenting with musical formulas instead of URZ URZ LALALA)

its in guitarpro format, but would anyone care to listen and discuss some music with me? could be here or on aim or something but let me know, im dyin to shoot the **** about this

EDIT: as i recall my video production class in highschool used G4s and it ran final cut pro with no problems til they replaced them with newer models[/quote]
upload the midi file to mediafire and I'll take a listen :D

Kuffuffled 03-22-2010 05:44 PM

What time is it over thurr SBT

honestly the only album I really like by reuben is their first one, racecar. It makes we wish I had my own sound down like that AND could sing

Sad But True 03-22-2010 05:50 PM

it's only like 11:50 but I spent about 30% of today's studio time asleep on a reclining sofa.


Did you give their last album a go? The first three tracks alone sold it for me, the rest is pretty hit and miss. Suffocation of the Soul is possibly my favourite song of all time


Also: I wish so much I could scream like Jamie from Reuben.


And with that, goodnight Lod.

Left Face Down 03-22-2010 06:43 PM

[QUOTE=Sad But True;17879402] "Not Being a Dick 101".
[/QUOTE]

Definitely skipped Political Correctness 101. :o

JoshIsNumber3 03-22-2010 09:57 PM

Yeah because not being a complete dick is the same thing as being politically correct. Jesus you are a tool.

purple_hazer 03-22-2010 11:07 PM

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;17879440]upload the midi file to mediafire and I'll take a listen :D[/QUOTE]

[URL]http://www.mediafire.com/?l1c5thyumwd[/URL]

let me know what you think man

mnemonic 03-23-2010 01:03 AM

sup lod, haven't had to wake up early for a week because all my morning classes were canceled for various reasons, but this week they aren't so i have to wake up at 7am.

just thought i'd let you know.

fingers mccoy 03-23-2010 04:14 AM

wasup bros

here's a link to my quartet's latest concert if anyone's interested

[URL]http://soundcloud.com/dave-pearce/sets/decameron-guitar-quartet[/URL]

we have a new member who isn't a first study guitarist so this is his first test basically

listen to spain if nothing else

jaklyons 03-23-2010 10:47 AM

[IMG]http://www.e-imagesite.com/Files2/toot4997282.jpg[/IMG]


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