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joas 06-28-2006 01:54 PM

well knowing general voicings are key to be able to understand how it works as well as a multi track or something like that to be able to hear it yourself

but i broke it down like that when other people like joe pass consider it ii V I (the big progression in jazz music in general)


typical subs for again lets take Ab

V chords (ii is like an expansion almost on this, to create more movement)

ii is Bbm7 (Bb Db F Ab), the most common sub being probably the IV or DbM7 (Db F Ab C), because this just extends it to the ninth which is a pretty safe tone most of the time when comping for other people in a tune

the reason you dont have to play still Bb in this instance is because if that's the chord everyone's on, and your bass player is worth a f[size=2]u[/size]ck, then its already being played by the bass (not enough horn players listen to the bass for the chord progression, or thats what ive dealt with but whatever), so you can keep the key tones (3rd and 7th of Bb -- Db and Ab) while adding extensions (so C here from the DbM7)

for V probably the most common is the viib5 (cant do the half dim symbol whatever), because of the same logic above (youre just adding the 9th, F, to the V chord, Eb7 or Eb G Bb Db)

you kind of need to know more basic stuff first, not that im sayin you dont but if you dont get this it might be helpful to check out those music theory sites everyone goes to on here to BULK UP on that music theory or whatever

joas 06-28-2006 01:55 PM

[QUOTE=Atman]it kills me every time i see or hear it

personally i'd rather have them be honest

it might not be something i can respect, but at least it isn't as yellow bellied[/QUOTE]


lol hey guys check out this blues progression that i improvd over i did in e you may remember this chord from a famous dude but I LIKE IT


x
8
7
6
7
0

ROCK ON dudes

Abu-Abu 06-28-2006 01:55 PM

You guys think this would actually work as an attenuator??

[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/VOLUMEBOX-FOR-PEAVEY-DELTA-BLUES-CLASSIC-30-50-212-5150_W0QQitemZ7424098405QQihZ016QQcategoryZ38076QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

Nihongo 06-28-2006 01:56 PM

My best friend has become an attention whore and has let an emo boyfriend ruin her life. She refuses to let anyone help.

I'm about to give up.

The_Mop 06-28-2006 01:56 PM

I used to know this guy who was PURELY into brutal death metal. He wouldn't listen to it if it wasn't death metal, and seriously wouldn't even CONSIDER anything else.

But, I don't really see that much of a problem with people playing a bit of jazzy blues along with slayer, it at least shows a bit of diversity, althought superficial. It kinda shows a bit of interest in the style. Still, like you say Eggo, it is a bit annoying if it's only just superficial to try and pretend to be diverse.

I've kinda moved away from metal a bit more into prog and fusion after being into death metal for a while, partially because there's way more diversity in those genres.

evilnomore 06-28-2006 01:57 PM

[QUOTE=Kurrpt]should have asked the man for a back stage pass :naughty:


Speaking of backstage passes, when i saw Symphony X, and got them to sign my CD booklet, apparently they were all staring at my girl. I guess when you go to a show called GIGANTOUR, and see a bunch of nasty guys in all black, a fair dame looks pretty appealing...

anywho, my girl was trying to say that she could go back stage. She wanted me to bet her 100 bucks that she could allow her to go back stage. I was like "wait.... i give you 100 bucks, and you go back stage? Does that mean i can come too?" She explained to me the impossibility of the situation. I told her there was nothing in it for me[/QUOTE]


I asked him for one of those civil agreement thingys.


Then I'd get all the backstage passes I want :)




did you know that his guitarist is actually incredible?

Amit 06-28-2006 01:58 PM

[QUOTE=The_Mop]I used to know this guy who was PURELY into brutal death metal. He wouldn't listen to it if it wasn't death metal, and seriously wouldn't even CONSIDER anything else.

But, I don't really see that much of a problem with people playing a bit of jazzy blues along with slayer, it at least shows a bit of diversity, althought superficial. It kinda shows a bit of interest in the style. Still, like you say Eggo, it is a bit annoying if it's only just superficial to try and pretend to be diverse.

I've kinda moved away from metal a bit more into prog and fusion.[/QUOTE]

i'm only talking about the false pretenders

and it's pretty obvious when that is the case when they use terms like "jazzy blues"

AG 06-28-2006 02:00 PM

Has anyone ever typed 'slutnik music' or 'spunknik music'?

I have :(



Stfu ego, I love jazzyblues.

Abu-Abu 06-28-2006 02:00 PM

[QUOTE=Abu-Abu]You guys think this would actually work as an attenuator??

[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/VOLUMEBOX-FOR-PEAVEY-DELTA-BLUES-CLASSIC-30-50-212-5150_W0QQitemZ7424098405QQihZ016QQcategoryZ38076QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url][/QUOTE]
Just bringing it to the next page. :thumb:

Anyways, update on my guitar project.

I told my mom her paying money for me not to use that guitar is dumb, and she offered to pay more, so I think I'll get a used guitar on eBay, and kick in a bit of money, and use it or one of my guitars I own already for the project. If she lets me that is, she is trying to say she'll only help pay if it's parts, dunno for sure yet.

kurrpt 06-28-2006 02:01 PM

im not even sure what "jazzy blues" is :lol:

slutnik....nope. I just went into there for like the 3rd time today

Meatplow 06-28-2006 02:01 PM

Diversity is one of the greatest things about the guitar.

Nihongo 06-28-2006 02:02 PM

[QUOTE=Nihongo]My best friend has become an attention whore and has let an emo boyfriend ruin her life. She refuses to let anyone help.

I'm about to give up.[/QUOTE]
bump

I_go_by_mikee 06-28-2006 02:03 PM

[QUOTE=AG]Has anyone ever typed 'slutnik music' or 'spunknik music'?

I have :(



Stfu ego, I love jazzyblues.[/QUOTE]


i still use the musicianforums.com link. haha.

joas 06-28-2006 02:06 PM

jazzy blues is seriously the dumbest thing ive ever heard of

like how does that even work in the sense people use it?

Amit 06-28-2006 02:07 PM

[QUOTE=Meatplow]Diversity is one of the greatest things about the guitar.[/QUOTE]

music*

Nihongo 06-28-2006 02:07 PM

Good point.
To Joas.

joas 06-28-2006 02:07 PM

i was going to put that too, amit

hm

kurrpt 06-28-2006 02:08 PM

[QUOTE=Nihongo]bump[/QUOTE]


i find it impossible to believe that any teenager can consider their life ruined. In the scheme of things, the person hasn't even begun to live, let alone ruin a life. Like you said, attension grabby whore.


I would recommend myspace. I'm sure she'll find acceptance there

Nihongo 06-28-2006 02:09 PM

She was my best friend though...

kurrpt 06-28-2006 02:09 PM

[QUOTE=joas]jazzy blues is seriously the dumbest thing ive ever heard of

like how does that even work in the sense people use it?[/QUOTE]


some kid was trying to tell me blues couldnt be played past a certain speed the other day. I prefer that they ramble for a while, just for my amusement

joas 06-28-2006 02:10 PM

man im listening to speak no evil right now this album is so great holy crap



yeah i wonder if hes hit his head or somethin

kurrpt 06-28-2006 02:10 PM

[QUOTE=Nihongo]She was my best friend though...[/QUOTE]


in that case...


can you say REBOUND :naughty:

for these types of problems, theres not much you can really do besides assure the person that they are young, and will move on in time.

Zatoichi 06-28-2006 02:11 PM

[QUOTE=joas]jazzy blues is seriously the dumbest thing ive ever heard of

like how does that even work in the sense people use it?[/QUOTE]


dunno the could be using as an adjective.

:shrugs: doesnt know either.

joas 06-28-2006 02:12 PM

nah typically theyre eluding to some higher intellect by it not just being "look im playin crappy blues on my squier with a ds1, but itz jazzy baby :cool:"

mother[size=2]f[/size]uckers

kurrpt 06-28-2006 02:12 PM

is your new avatar talking about the duality of psychadelic mushrooms?

Father_Jack 06-28-2006 02:13 PM

[QUOTE=Abu-Abu]Just bringing it to the next page. :thumb:

Anyways, update on my guitar project.

I told my mom her paying money for me not to use that guitar is dumb, and she offered to pay more, so I think I'll get a used guitar on eBay, and kick in a bit of money, and use it or one of my guitars I own already for the project. If she lets me that is, she is trying to say she'll only help pay if it's parts, dunno for sure yet.[/QUOTE]


Nah it wouldnt work. It is still basically stoping the power getting the power tubes cooking (because its in the loop and not after amplification). It may give you better pre-amp saturation, but I doubt it will sound that different. Just save for a power attenator (sp?wtf?idk).

Abu-Abu 06-28-2006 02:25 PM

Aren't those like $300?

Link me to a good one.

/me was hoping this could be a cheap solution

kurrpt 06-28-2006 02:26 PM

yea, a good one anyway. I just use ear plugs. I can deal with the 8 dollar fee

The_Mop 06-28-2006 02:27 PM

[quote=joas]jazzy blues is seriously the dumbest thing ive ever heard of[/quote]

wtf


i'm listening to some right now

Nihongo 06-28-2006 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=Kurrpt]in that case...


can you say REBOUND :naughty:

for these types of problems, theres not much you can really do besides assure the person that they are young, and will move on in time.[/QUOTE]
She's refusing to talk to me.


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